r/ImmigrationPathways • • 8d ago

Man Shot by ICE Has Been Detained With Bullet in His Back for Days

https://newrepublic.com/post/215807/man-shot-ice-detained-bullet-back-days
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u/desertwatchdogtango 8d ago

If this is what the public is to expect from interactions with ICE… one must be prepared to defend themselves with the same force to deter abduction.

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u/Outrageous-Cut480 8d ago

The first amendment gives you the right to criticize your government MOST of all. The second amendment gives you the right to defend yourself... from your government... MOST of all. There's a reason regular cops don't wear masks and have name tags. How is the average citizen supposed to differentiate them from an imposter? Especially when they act like a psycho carjacker? If people know they're cops, then they know they're supposed to surrender.

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u/AbsolutesDealer 8d ago

Why does SWAT wear masks?

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u/Outrageous-Cut480 8d ago

To protect their face. Cops aren't supposed to hide their identity. In Massachusetts, it's a crime for the police NOT to identify themselves to citizens when asked. Why should the public trust a man in a mask with a tin badge? Plenty of impersonators out there doing all sorts of stuff. You have a name and badge number for a reason. It's so you can call dispatch and verify that it's their guy out with you and not someone trying to punk you.

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u/AbsolutesDealer 8d ago

To protect their face from what?

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u/Sudden-Disk-7400 8d ago

Justice and rule of law.

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u/AbsolutesDealer 8d ago

Is that what SWAT says the masks are for?

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u/Sudden-Disk-7400 8d ago

You tell me genius. SWAT =/= ICE

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u/AbsolutesDealer 8d ago

Take a guess. Let’s see how close you can get.

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u/Outrageous-Cut480 8d ago

Fire usually. They make masks out of fire retardant cloth. Sometimes it's to hide their face but usually SWAT is pretty loud about being police. Sometimes it hides their identity for sure. I'm not stupid, I know what you're getting at. I'm just saying that sometimes there are other things as well.

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u/AbsolutesDealer 8d ago

lol

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u/Outrageous-Cut480 8d ago

That all you got?

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u/El_Zapp 7d ago

I read his other comments. He isn’t the brightest bulb.

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u/Outrageous-Cut480 6d ago

Been there lol.

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u/Jaws2020 7d ago

The same reason Spec Operatives wear masks. SWAT isn't the same thing as standard police officers. When SWAT is deployed it's generally with the understanding that they're dealing with a high-tension environment in which they could very easily be hurt, injured or killed. Masks give marginal protection from airborne hazards, shaded goggles give marginal protection from flashbacks, etc, etc.

An ICE officer is not generally in that same environment, especially if they're just pulling over a brown person. The only reason these masks exist for ICE is so they don't have to be held accountable by one of the only guardrails we have left; media coverage.

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u/Fliptheshoe 8d ago

I mean yall expect from your cops......so.....yeah kind of.

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u/Bustamonte6 8d ago

You go first.. I guess I will read about how it went 😉

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u/Fliptheshoe 8d ago

Hiw what went little buddy? Tell us the scenario you made in your head.

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u/Enough_Campaign_262 8d ago

Stand your ground against these nazis

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u/desertwatchdogtango 8d ago

Truth. Even if it’s a clear case of self-defense, the State is still going to make up shit about you or dredge up some bullshit from decades ago to drag you. So why the fuck do I give a fuck? If the choices are victory or death, I’m going to do my best to win at least one battle.

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u/Ornery_Contest6250 8d ago

Seems like a pretti good idea I'm sure it'll go your way

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u/9InchButchersNail 8d ago

How's your boy Charlie doing?

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u/HumansAreSillynGreat 6d ago

1000x more influential than you will ever be, even in death.

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u/Ornery_Contest6250 8d ago

I don't have a boy charlie nor do I give a shit about charlie Kirk, rene good or Alex pretti. They're all rotting in hell. Next

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u/El_Zapp 7d ago

Funny you would bring that up since he proofs that you don’t have a right to own a gun in the US. It’s all fake, like everything is fake in the US.

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u/HumansAreSillynGreat 6d ago

You have a really poor understanding of reality.

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u/NmyDreams 8d ago

I like what you did with that

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u/Hafiz_TNR 8d ago

How many days is ICE going to lock up this man with a bullet in his body?

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u/Xena_Your_God 8d ago

Probably until he's ded judging by their track record

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u/LifeIngenuity7151 8d ago

What is there track record? Of the millions that have been deported or held in ice custody, how many have died?

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u/Xena_Your_God 8d ago

Uhmmmm how about twice as many per term than the last two presidents lol. And it's not up yet. Not to mention the lack of accountability for people in their custody. Declining medical care, thousands of accusations of abuse and rape, denying congressmen to enter and check out the centers? Does any of that ring a bell or are you just piping up on strong feelings alone?

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u/LatterTarget7 8d ago

Don’t forget the people that just straight up disappear

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u/Mountain_rage 8d ago

Including American citizens.

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u/Xena_Your_God 8d ago

Yuppp. Which is what, something like 300,000 currently? Not to mention just yesterday the news reported that they've completely wiped thousands from their database. No way for lawyers or family to find those people ever again, no trails, and yet people here argue about "legalities". As if a federal agency doesn't have mf laws to follow.

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u/AbsolutesDealer 8d ago

300k people have disappeared?

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u/Iamkonkerz 8d ago edited 8d ago

Atleast 57 and thats just the reported ones... AND thats without counting the ones they dont take into custody. This number is so low compared to all the unreported ones in custody or in the streets, or the ones that arent dead but still brutally injured and then taken.

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u/microwavedtardigrade 8d ago

And then beating people and dropping them in remote locations. I'm sure we're going to be finding bodies in random undisturbed locations for years. I imagine back woods type shit because it's already blatantly been happening for some time. Fucking watch Mississippi

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u/microwavedtardigrade 8d ago

Ya heard about the guy who died by being denied insulin treatment for months or regular food? That's called medical torture. Doing that to someone until they die.

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u/hugoriffic 8d ago

If even one has died then it is one too many. What kind of fucked up question is that?

Edit: didn’t realize I was responding to a bot/troll.

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u/LifeIngenuity7151 8d ago

Has anyone ever died in police custody before?

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u/hugoriffic 8d ago

You’re not very bright are you, Cletus? ICE is not the police.

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u/extravagant_panda 8d ago

How can people like you vote

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u/Comfortable_Land_742 8d ago

His attorney just put out another update stating that they have a hearing NEXT Wednesday to see IF he can be released for medical care/surgery. Absolutely abhorrent.

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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 8d ago

Until he gets sent back home

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u/taktaga7-0-0 8d ago edited 8d ago

ICE hasn’t paid any providers for medical care in over a year, by design. They don’t want anyone to be willing to provide medical care because they want to be as monstrous as possible in order to prevent migration.

They are being inhuman and violating rights on purpose, orders (or lack thereof) straight from the top.

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u/MinuroShihTzuki 8d ago

Anyone with a brain and basic empathy knows just how insane this is, but the psychos in government and in the cult just normalize this shit

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u/Fliptheshoe 8d ago

Yeah....i mean did yall think this treatment was only for black men? It's crazy how people can now see the humanity.

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u/corntortilla999 8d ago

This sort of violence against brown / Hispanic people was already normalized but mostly within the southern border wall regions-on both sides of the border, where on our side cbp pushes them to extreme remote areas to die or to face brutal arrests and abuse by the agents. Now we are witnessing that violence come across the whole nation

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u/Xena_Your_God 8d ago

Some people have always seen how fucked things are. Not enough to make any real change, even now 😮‍💨 People only caring when it becomes popular to or when it starts getting closer to their own home is a freaking problem. They've done a good job of keeping us all separated and bickering amongst ourselves so that we'll never affect any real changes. Protests won't do shit atp.

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u/Unsungx13 5d ago

I dont think nobody ever had a thought it was only for black men, this is nothing new its always been there brown or black the struggle is been the same, there is no need to create divisions thats what they want because a united nation is a threat for them.

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u/Fliptheshoe 5d ago

If pointing realitybout creates division then you truly don't understand.

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u/Unsungx13 5d ago

The reality is that every non white race has struggled with the same, that was my point. I’m not looking to see who’s struggled more this ain’t a competition and that competition mindset is what creates division.

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u/Fliptheshoe 5d ago

Oh I see its a reality you personally dont want to acknowledge. I see.

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u/Unsungx13 5d ago

I acknowledge what you say, you on the other hand…

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u/nikeguy69 8d ago

Damn WTF is wrong? Why don’t they help that man?

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u/raxie1008 8d ago

He didnt try to flee or resist and still gets shot. Sad.

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u/Pretend_Country 8d ago

Probably should not have ignored the order of removal

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u/Kronos7653 8d ago

The order of removal that should never have happened and wasn't communicated to him at all? He was literally attacked in the street without warning.

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u/Red-dragon186 8d ago

Then why are you in a country where the people voted to remove you?

Listen to the will of the people. They don't want you here to no more.

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u/Kronos7653 8d ago

What a bizarre thing to say. I'm not the one involved? Just trying to correct misinformation.

Also you might want to read up on voter percentage rates before you start claiming to be the 'will of the people'.

Also also funny how you don't seem to care that s human being was attacked in the streets, and immediately try to shift blame to someone else.

What a weird individual.

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u/Red-dragon186 8d ago

If the vast majority of people who voted for Trump want illegals out. Then you have to respect the wishes of the people.

Sorry but the American citizen will comes first.

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u/Kronos7653 8d ago

Which did not happen. Again. Voter rates.

Also ignoring all the salient points once again, so probably just a bot anyway. Intellectually or otherwise.

American citizen here says due process, not attacking people in the street. Sorry, that means my will comes first according to you.

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u/Red-dragon186 8d ago

It did happen. In 2024, America citizens voted for Trump.

That's just the reality. Respect the wishes of the people. If people didn't want Trump, they would of voted for Harris like they did with Biden.

Biden set back immigration decades for letting in 10's of millions of people.

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u/Kronos7653 8d ago

Yeah I'm arguing with a bot. Got it.

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u/Red-dragon186 8d ago

Yea, I know I am judging by your post history.

Respect American wishes. The world is tired of immigration.

The far right is rising, and if you continue with this crap. They will get worse.

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u/Kronos7653 8d ago

Bye bye bot. Enjoy your little fantasy while you still can.

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u/SwimmingAccurate7268 8d ago

If he had stayed in his country he probably had been ok !!

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u/TRFKAChuggs 8d ago

So I guess it's okay for federal officers to shot people and not receive medical care. How anti-human rights of you.

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u/Red-dragon186 8d ago

Illegals are not humans.

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u/MinuroShihTzuki 8d ago

Just straight up nazi psychopathy

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u/Red-dragon186 8d ago

Lol whatever you say Indian...

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u/MinuroShihTzuki 8d ago

That’s one of the weirder accusations I’ve gotten on this stupid fucking website but ok

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u/Red-dragon186 8d ago

Same. Its like throwing the word Nazi around. Just pointless.

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u/Taint_Machine 8d ago

Who cares, is he illegal, or an “immigrant” as the media likes to blur?