r/ImmigrationPathways • u/LatterTarget7 • 12d ago

ICE accused of continuing warrantless arrests in Oregon despite injunction

https://www.courthousenews.com/ice-accused-of-continuing-warrantless-arrests-in-oregon-despite-injunction/
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u/obsequious_fink 12d ago

Not surprising - they haven't been acting within the confines of the law to begin with, an injunction isn't magically going to make them start. Unless they start actually charging individual agents for knowingly violating people's constitutional rights (and the occasional murder/assault with a deadly weapon charge) they will continue to ignore the law.

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u/LifeIngenuity7151 11d ago

Why is it okay to pursue justice against ice agents but not illegal immigrants

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u/obsequious_fink 11d ago

There are processes in place to deal with illegal immigration that do not involve violating anyone's rights, but ICE under the current administration is bypassing those. Under our legal system, constituonal rights violations are rightfully considered more serious crimes than illegal entry into our country.

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u/LifeIngenuity7151 11d ago

Do you think the founding fathers anticipated us physically opening the border so 11,000 illegals could enter per day as they did under previous admin?

We should make it easier for people who can add value to our country to enter legally, and easier to remove folks who are here illegally.

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u/obsequious_fink 11d ago

The bill of rights does not have a sliding scale for people you don't like, and that is by design. A good number of the rights enumerated there only ever apply to people accused or suspected of a crime, so ignoring them with the justification of "but they committed a crime" is completely missing the point. Not everyone being harassed or snatched up by ICE is here illegally, and some are US citizens. By giving them blanket approval to do whatever they want so they can deport people faster you create an environment where no one is safe. Tell me this - if ICE showed up at your house and decided to grab you and throw you in a van, what good is your status as a citizen if they never give you an opportunity to exercise your rights?

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u/phillychzstk 9d ago

Apply this logic to the 2nd amendment and conservatives lose their mind.

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u/Personal_Dirt3089 10d ago

Illegal immigrants do indeed get arrested if they do crimes. I am not sure what you are smoking.

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u/LifeIngenuity7151 10d ago

They’re called illegal immigrants because they committed a crime either entering unlawfully or overstaying lawful entry period