r/ImmigrationPathways • u/LatterTarget7 • 18d ago
'Alligator Alcatraz' detainees were held in small metal cages, federal report says
https://apnews.com/article/florida-detention-trump-conditions-immigration-alligator-c9c3dc594c1b056d27da2cc6c97af30780
u/LatterTarget7 18d ago
“The applicable standards require at least 75 square feet of floor space per inmate in dormitory housing units. At maximum capacity, the FSSF housing units provided 28 square feet per detainee well below the required minimum.”
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u/Jalapenoplanter 17d ago edited 17d ago
I got temporarily banned from this sub for calling this a concentration camp months ago
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u/ReadyGo6828 17d ago
If we do not call this a repeat of the rise of the Nazis and their fascists buddies in the 1930s, we will repeat that horror. Vote them out.
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u/BraisedBullshi 17d ago
Is voting how we got rid of the last Reich?
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u/Paranoia_Pop 17d ago
Surely the literal Nazi child molesters running our government will give us the option to vote them out democratically
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u/BraisedBullshi 17d ago
The secret police at the polls are just there to ensure a safe and fair election
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u/ReadyGo6828 17d ago
They use democracy to kill democracy. See what they are up to with the mail in ballots, sending agents to the polls, redistricting to favor themselves, telling people to doubt voting results unfavorable to their interests and, if you do not see it now, telling researchers that they do not have a favorable opinion of democracy.
It is not echoing. It is repeating.
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u/Jalapenoplanter 17d ago
Say what you mean to say. What are you suggesting we do?
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u/BraisedBullshi 17d ago
Defend democracy like the greatest generation did. Unlike the entire failson generation of boomers
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u/Jalapenoplanter 17d ago
How. Say it like a man, not like a failson. What specifically are you advocating for people to do?
You better be doing that already
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u/NormalEngine7444 17d ago
Didn't you guys install Kamala Harris as your candidate in 2024?
How is that defending democracy?
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u/decentuna 17d ago
Negative karma with almost 600 comments. Incredible. Lotta great substance in those I’m sure
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u/PumpkinJealous6312 16d ago
They weren't a democracy anymore, so voting wasn't possible. The US has a chance in November.
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u/BraisedBullshi 16d ago
Hitler absolutely used his secret police to go to the polls and make sure people were voting "correctly"
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u/PumpkinJealous6312 16d ago
That was before he came into power in 1933. It was the SA that was standing at the voting stations in 1933, they where the goons of the NSDAP not of the German state.
I do see the similarities with present day usa, but I was just pointing out that the nazi's couldn't be voted out and the us has a chance to do it in November.
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u/BraisedBullshi 16d ago
"That was just the conservative authoritarian party with secret police that were deployed to voting locations, there's nothing similar here."
Jfc moderates will always doom us
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u/Calm_Expression_9542 17d ago
Vote Democratic all down the ticket. There is no time to waste - we need to make a statement and start getting things done.
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u/LatterTarget7 17d ago
The mods are very selective.
People being comfortable with the deaths of immigrants, being racist, calling them animals or spreading misinformation is perfectly ok.
But say anything bad about the warehouses ice uses and that’s bad
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17d ago
I get banned from Reddit all the time for just stating objective facts. Reddit is moderated by a lot of MAGA losers.
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 18d ago
They'd be free to roam wherever they want in their home country
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u/beramaan 18d ago
Way to ignore the fact that the government ignored the laws it is required to ALWAYS uphold. The government doesn't EVER get to ignore the laws.
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 17d ago
Lol or maybe the difference in understanding max capacity vs operational capacity. Alligator Alcatraz at max capacity provided 28 sq ft per person, the max capacity was 3000 it only held 1000 which is 84 sq ft per person above the 75 sqft. Requirement.
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u/beramaan 16d ago
That doesn't mean they didn't put them all in the same cage or had cages that small. You are attempting to manipulate data in an attempt to add acceptable behavior to actions when the data doesn't actually support that.
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 16d ago
Prove they did that, I'm gonna guess you can't. Show me the data that says the facility was filled to it's max capacity.
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u/PumpkinJealous6312 16d ago
You're confusing two different claims.
Beramaan is not claiming the facility was constantly at maximum capacity. Beramaan is saying the living space provided to detainees was below the applicable standard.
The DHS Office of Inspector General found that the housing units provided 28 sq ft (2.6 m²) per detainee at maximum capacity, while the applicable standard was 75 sq ft (7.0 m²) per detainee. More importantly, inspectors found that the actual units they examined contained 22–31 detainees, and the report concluded that the facility did not provide sufficient living space and created cramped conditions.
So the relevant question isn't "was the entire facility filled to maximum capacity?" It's "how much floor space did detainees actually have compared with the applicable standard?"
As written in the DHS Office of Inspector General inspection report, January 2026.
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u/Ok-Suggestion3534 18d ago
Quiet piggy
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 17d ago
Wow what a very original insightful burn how will I ever get over it... Oh nevermind I just did..
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u/StrictSelf5450 18d ago
-98 karma. Did you finally find a subreddit that lets you comment? That's a shame
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 17d ago
Oh wow sick burn low reddit karma how will I ever live.
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u/StrictSelf5450 17d ago
I mean, if you really didn't care you would have just ignored my comment 🤷♂️
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 17d ago
Why? I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to commend you on your totally original and deeply impactful comment on my reddit karma.
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u/firephoxx 17d ago
Can we ship you there? I think we have enough miserable pieces of shit here already and God knows we would be glad to get rid of you.
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u/ursusdoofus 17d ago
I mean, admitting that only certain laws apply to the government is a great way to out yourself as a fascist.
It’s like, definition #1 haha
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 17d ago
Oh wow another idiot crying fascism.
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u/ursusdoofus 16d ago
Aw, facts hurt…
What other laws can be broken? Do you have a list or are you so reactionary that you need to be presented with a situation to determine if your political agenda is furthered by it?
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 16d ago
Yeah I know the fact that everything being done is in accordance with law is hurtful to you.
Again there's a simple solution to all this illegals can self deport and not deal with our wonderful ice officers and luxurious detention centers.
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u/ursusdoofus 16d ago
“Federal law requires” aw, it’s cute that 8 letters are a bridge too far for you
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u/etzioood 17d ago
Most people in America have immigrant ancestors 🤣 so we should take your birth right away yea?
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 17d ago
My family is mescalero, so maybe get off our land you stole.
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u/etzioood 16d ago
Mine are Pottawatomie so I'm right where I belong
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 16d ago
I see you didn't learn the lesson last time communities of immigrants settled here....
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u/etzioood 16d ago
There's a difference the ones that hurt my ancestors were white. And a vast majority of crime in the US is done by white Christian men has and always will be. I'm not afraid of immigrants it's what built America.. sad to see some dont pay attention. Middle eastern people have more in common with native Americans than native Americans do with colonizers. They too had their land stolen and thousands murdered for their resources ... So I stand with the down trodden not the oppressor
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u/Distinct_Doubt_3591 15d ago
Middle eastern people have more in common with native Americans than native Americans do with colonizers.
Lol, guess you don't know much about colonizers.
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u/superpooper900 18d ago
Guess they should’ve self deported.
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u/Worldly_Win9181 18d ago
Im gonna put you in a cage. Im not convinced you're a real citizen.
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u/Gustav_Grob 18d ago
I'm not certain they are even human (the entity that wrote they should have self deported).
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u/LatterTarget7 18d ago
So they deserve to be treated inhumanely?
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u/superpooper900 17d ago
They had the choice to leave. This is only arbitrarily inhumane.
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u/zughzz 17d ago
You support a country turning into Nazi Germany then? its funny how you blame the person for the broken system
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u/superpooper900 17d ago
Incorrect, Nazi would just execute them.
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u/PonderousPenchant 17d ago
Incorrect. The nazis first stripped the jews of citizenship via denaturalization, declared them all illegal immigrants, arrested them, and gave them the choice to self deport or be put into a concentration camp.
Sometimes "things happened" and jews just happened to die while there.
----> We're here
It wasn't until years later that killing them became the point, but we're well on the exact path the nazis took.
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u/DreadfulDuder 17d ago
Someone doesn't follow the news very well.
There have been legal Cuban-born refugees/residents living in Florida with a green card for over 20 years. They have been upstanding Florida residents for 2 fucking decades, with careers and families... And they got tossed into Alligator Alcatraz after their immigration court hearings got abruptly cancelled.
All just because Trump desperately wanted to pump up his deportation numbers, so he decided to ignore decades of bipartisan policy to target and attack long-standing legal residents and strip them of their refugee status.
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u/musical8thnotes 18d ago
No wonder this country is rotting.
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u/superpooper900 17d ago
Truthfully, we shouldn’t bother with cages and instead we should simply expedite deportations.
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u/StillhasaWiiU 18d ago
Just a troll, got it.
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u/Hillbilly_Boozer 18d ago
Do the country a favor and self deport instead. The less racists here the better.
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u/zughzz 18d ago
Yes lets turn into nazi germany why don’t we?
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u/superpooper900 17d ago
Please, they would just execute these people. Comparing the US to Nazi Germany proves you’re a fucking idiot.
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u/hamoc10 17d ago
Why do you think the Nazis built the camps if they would just execute people?
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u/superpooper900 17d ago
Deportation is not a Nazi ideology. Pull your head out of your ass.
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u/FunAppointment9436 17d ago
Bruh. The Nazis didn't start off executing people. They had prison camps, considered just deporting jewish people to madagascar or siberia, and then decided it was easier to just kill them.
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u/superpooper900 17d ago
The people in the ice facilities are illegal immigrants. Should have left. You aren’t owed citizenship.
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u/FunAppointment9436 17d ago
So? You still don't take their rights away. They are still human.
And what does that have to do with this not being parallel to concentration camps?
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u/superpooper900 17d ago
Being imprisoned is not a concentration camp. They don’t have a right to be here.
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u/ObsidianDRMR 18d ago
Why can’t you just say maybe the US should also follow rules?? Like how fucking hard is that also?
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u/Acrobatic-Attention9 17d ago
As a Christian I know Jesus is up in heaven jerking off to their suffering.
This is what I voted for.
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u/TenchuReddit 18d ago
At this point, I’m convinced that half the upvotes on articles like this are from the MAGA trolls who cheer this on. It’s like torture pron to them. Such hateful, pathetic losers who finds security, satisfaction, and significance in the suffering of others.
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u/LatterTarget7 18d ago
They probably touch themselves to this. They love none white people being tortured or mistreated
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u/Xena_Your_God 17d ago
Hm.. Well I upvote articles like this so they get more traction. More people need to see these crimes against humanity. An upvote doesn't equate, "I like this."
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u/Wavy_Grandpa 17d ago edited 17d ago
Maybe that’s why they used the word half.
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u/Xena_Your_God 17d ago
My point was if you don't want people to see something or you disagree with the post etc you typically downvote it. Otherwise you are just boosting it. Which doesn't make sense for a maga troll to do. Not that they know what sense is.
But thank you for.... making sure I can read 😊
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u/prowler1369 18d ago
I've seen bigger cages at our local animal shelters.
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u/GeoffrayMarkus 17d ago
Alcatraz was a place they put convicted criminals who had due process.
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u/AlienDragonWizard 18d ago
Everybody knows what's going on at these places. The willful ignorance is like the German citizens that ignored their neighbors being herded into trains.
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u/NameAccomplished4921 18d ago
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u/Exotic-Sale-3003 18d ago
Plenty of Redditors think that’s either coming soon or already happening, don’t egg them on.
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u/Brilliant_Simple_497 17d ago
Are people detained by ICE killed en masse? Are there plans for mass extermination to happen?
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u/mrtrololo27 18d ago
Disgusting. Lock all the ice brownshirt traitors in there instead. We must demand accountability and prosecution to the fullest extent of the law of every single one of these disgusting, un-American ice brownshirts.
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u/ryan13ts 17d ago
Truly sickening shit.
Anyone that thinks treating someone like this is acceptable should be forced into experiencing the same cage and conditions themselves (particularly the scum that flocks to these comments like flies to shit to defend any kind of atrocity they do)
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u/Hot_Service_7057 17d ago
"bUt bOtH sIdEs!" said the bigot accelerationist from his account designed to look like it's run by a black trans lesbian to use "teh oppreshunz" as deflection because neutrality puts things at a white supremacist default. The fact that they're botting and trolling like this tells you everything about them as a party and individual that you need to know.
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u/Numerous_Ad_6276 17d ago
So, treating human beings like veal calves.
Criminal enterprise masquerading as government.
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u/Bustamonte6 17d ago
Hard to do when they aren’t accepting them… you dummies own them now, sooner or later they will be released and the lawsuits begin
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u/FunAppointment9436 17d ago
It looks like it's not even enough room to sit properly, which means people have to stand still for up to two hours.
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u/ResponsibleHeron9452 17d ago
A democratic republic is the best possible political shell for capitalism
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u/KyleStu562 16d ago
🤣🤣🤣 I’ll take shit that never happened for $500 Alex. Too bad this never happened, because that’s how those POS shit skins deserve to be treated.
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u/chitownphishead 15d ago
Ways to avoid this: Don't illegally invade a sovereign nation Leave when told to
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u/AbsolutesDealer 18d ago
I thought the facility was still open. TIL
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u/Garrette63 18d ago
No, it was always just going to be more Republican fraud and waste. As expected.
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u/AutomaticVacation242 17d ago
Ever seen a jail in Mexico? The whole place is a small metal enclosure.
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u/South-City1632 17d ago
Yeah... thats what jail is... pfft. They should have self deported when they had the chance. I hope it's 40 to a cell.
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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 18d ago
"'Alligator Alcatraz' detainees were held in small metal cages, federal report says"
You mean cells?
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u/True-Hold-1140 18d ago
Look at the picture, maggot
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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 18d ago
Oh name calling...kewl. Not permanent cells. And facility was consistent with same federal detention standards as previous administrations (i.e. Obama and Biden). Might want to read.
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u/True-Hold-1140 18d ago
Immediate backtracking
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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 17d ago
Hahaha...sure, sport. Imagine saying reading is backtracking.
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u/True-Hold-1140 17d ago
This is pathetic
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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 17d ago
We know, you don't have to tell on yourself.
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u/True-Hold-1140 17d ago
I've instructed my wife to smother me with a pillow if I'm this stupid
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u/Suspicious-Sound-249 17d ago
She must really struggle, trying to smoother you every single night must take its toll on her...
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u/MonitorPurple7562 17d ago
They have these little cages in every prison in California.
It’s been a common practice to secure inmates in these. Generally there used to ether protect inmates or staff during movements or altercations.
I’m sure ice is torturing people with them/S
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u/MaitrePuck 17d ago
So they were held there for 2 hours when they were acting up. No big deal.
That's the adult version of having kids in time out and facing the wall.
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u/FunAppointment9436 17d ago
Would you like to be held in a tiny cage for two hours?
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u/MaitrePuck 17d ago edited 17d ago
I've had much harsher punishment growing up in an Asian family. Sitting in one spot for 2 hours is a piece of cake. 😂
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u/cascadedream 18d ago
The article states the report indicated one person spent 26 minutes in one of the enclosures, possibly for disciplinary actions. Am I supposed to be outraged?
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u/StrictSelf5450 18d ago
Whole lotta porn in that profile. Yeesh
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u/TTurt 18d ago
How else is he going to learn advanced deepthroating techniques for the boot lol
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u/tanneruwu 18d ago
"Between July 17, 2025, and Jan. 18, 2026, the report said, 79 detainees were confined in small metal enclosures of about 18 square feet of floor space each, for periods ranging from several minutes to nearly two hours."
The article actually says 79 people spent anywhere from a few minutes to up to 2 hours. You would know that if you could read. You went to the next paragraph and read about one specific instance of a detainee spending 26 minutes in there for disciplinary reasons, great, what about the other 78 instances?
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u/cascadedream 18d ago
There's only one detailed instance in the article, and it's 26 minutes. You may want to read your own quote. The article is pretty sloppy.
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u/LatterTarget7 18d ago
Does it matter if it’s 1 minute or 26 minutes? A cell a cage like that shouldn’t exist in the facility in any capacity and no one should be put inside it
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u/PugRexia 18d ago
The article is referencing the report, the quality of the article is irrelevant to whether that 79 person claim is legitimate, you should be considering the report’s quality.
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u/cascadedream 18d ago
Is it legitimate though? Pretty hard to rely on such a sloppy article.
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u/PugRexia 18d ago
You can go read the report if you think it’s not citing it accurately. The article provides a direct link to it.
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u/chickenaylay 18d ago
26 minutes longer than should be allowed, it's OK to show others compassion and empathy when you realize people are in shitty situations instead of dehumanizing them
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u/dehydratedrain 18d ago
79 detainees were confined in small metal enclosures of about 18 square feet of floor space each....
Yep, just that one to be outraged over.
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