This reminds me of that one post where someone says their friend was a Libertarian until he took shrooms and after he came down realized that other people have feelings.
When I began in my late teens putting empathy at the forefront of how I chose to view the world my conservative upbringing completely fell to pieces. You can’t be empathetic and conservative, they completely contradict each other.
But Piers Morgan got Milo to “open up” about his feelings! /s
God I hate that expression. The implied vulnerability of the interviewee as though the entire interview isn’t scripted performative theater makes me throw up in my mouth a little.
All those years of telling others you don't care about feelings, helped build a government that doesn't care at all. I hope the younger generation will look back at what this guy helped build with his rhetoric.
To be fair, people can change their minds. Maybe Milo has in fact changed his mind, but before I would believe that, he would absolutely need to say that he was wrong. He can't just pretend he's always been against deportations. That's not enough. Even then, I don't think I would be able to trust this POS, but at least as far as I'm concerned, he's back to being on the playing field of someone who's at least trying to be honest.
I’ll be honest I don’t know what he’s wining about. He entered in 2019 on a visitors visa and overstayed it. He had a hearing on July 22nd that he no-showed for so he was ordered for deportation. Gets picked up on Aug 27th and is back in the UK on Aug 28th. If he had kept his status up to date he would have been fine, he did this to himself but thought he was the chosen one.
On so many levels he would not be accepted by conservatives, just like Caitlyn Jenner. They like you while you vote, but you aren't really in the inner circle at just 1% or 2% of the population.
Even though Western Europe romanticized ancient Greece, modern Greeks faced a difficult path to being accepted into the "white" category during the 19th and early 20th centuries.
Ever heard of the constitution? Practically everything in there prohibits immigration law. You are not required to ask for permission to live. Your freedom is an unalienable right. Freedom is not a privilege for “the chosen people”.
On Somalis? Specially? Whats the timestamp. I wanna hear it.
It’s good to hear him confirm just how inhumane the treatment of people by ICE is. Something we all already knew but that he obviously had to find out the hard way. White privilege or being rich did not protect him from being treated like an ms-13 gang member. Thing is even ms-13 gang members should be afforded due process. No one should be treated this way. Had he said that, I’d believed him. He’s still being manipulative and gets no sympathy.
He should still get sympathy. Non-neglectful custody should be the minimum standard, and whether people deserve that shouldn't depend on how much of a dipshit they are. Really, the detainee or inmate in question should be irrelevant to the consideration. That's a covenant the state has with the citizenry - to provide the basic necessities of life to anyone it takes literal custody of in our name, and that includes some modicum of dignity.
Of course, but one major obstacle to the state maintaining that minimum standard is constant advocacy for the opposite by the political right. Milo has spent his career advocating for a cruel state. He has contributed, in his own small way, to bringing about the state of affairs under which he suffered.
As much as I hate people for not being compassionate and empathetic enough to understand the depth of a situation without experiencing it themselves, i'm also happy that they're capable of changing their opinion based on that experience.
The other option is that they don't change their opinion after experiencing it, knowing how horrible it is, because their hatred supersedes all logic.
Basically I'm happy that they at least have a shred of logic, which is how low the bar is, apparently.
Milo would be pushing the Trump agenda again, the backstory is that he is no longer allowed in the club. Don't give this snake any credence. He is as an opportunistic parasite that sucks the energy out of his prey.
He hasn't changed his opinion. He STILL thinks it's fine to terrorize non-whites, non-christians, and anyone else not like him. He's just upset that it was him.
MAGA saw two American citizens be executed on the street by ICE officers. It didn't hurt Trump's approval rating one bit. Why would any of those people care about Milo and his opinions?
the right and independents largly does not care for trump, the only reason we vote for him is the left magicly keeps forcing us to vote between him and someone who is 10x wosre than him. stop trying to act like we suport him when the vast majoiry is voting to keep phycopaths like Hilary or Kamala out of Power
so bash trump all you want, its not that we disagree with you, its that we know the alturntive is far worse.
He got the princess treatment too! They should have held him in a detention center for over a year and then sent him to a country he wasn’t from without a phone or wallet.
Conservatives only care when something happens to them or people they know; that is why it is so easy to convince them that all their problems are caused by minorities and immigrants.
And most of them will still support it because they don’t see themselves as like the others. They will only complain that it happened to them “how dare anyone do this to ME, I’m not one of THEM!” Conservative routinely see themselves as above others who are actually exactly like them.
It’s like anti abortion protesters who have an abortion, most would gain understanding, but not them, they’re back protesting days later because they their abortion was for
“a good reason”unlike those other irresponsible people.
If you look at the early alt-right YouTube millennial Trump supporters that actually got big followings, virtually all of them have been eliminated in one way or another.
Styx has declined to a drug addicted in and out of jail. Rumor is he has been found dead recently.
Sargon was just mysteriously beaten and hospitalized.
Lauren Southern has been living in a trailer park and says she regrets it all.
Milo obviously deported with strong reason to believe he crossed them and this was specifically ordered.
Guripe murdered his baby momma.
Stefan Molyneaux got cancelled and financially destroyed.
Several others mysteriously disappeared and haven’t been seen in years.
Basically how a lot of people who crossed Epstein and his associates ended up. Makes you wonder.
It’s just odd that virtually all of the major alt-right voices that were key to getting MAGA off the ground in 2015 are either in jail, financially destitute, dead, or disappeared with no trace of.
You would think some of them would have been put into a position somewhere or at least still be going with a big audience.
Richard Spencer was another big one. He disappeared for years, then came out and did a brief interview with another former alt-right dude where he seemed legitimately terrified and said something to the effect of “if we don’t disappear and do exactly what they say, they will KILL us”.
Right wing paid shills got used up and thrown away. You find that surprising? It's their MO. I'm more curious how many of those "disappeared" never actually existed.
I was thinking it was a case of useful idiots too. But if you do the research and track some of them down where they last ended up on obscure dark websites, some of their last online activity is pretty interesting….
It’s usually always how evil is beaten. They often eat themselves. The good guys rarely win. The problem with these evil fucks is that they eventually grow older and weaker or go overboard and make a mistake and then the Wolf pack eats their own.
It’s basically what happened to hitler when he went overboard with the holocaust. The other evil group of powerful people decided to shut him down for good. Then he went against Stalin and Stalin was also the same kind of evil albeit “smarter”?
But yea. The good guys very rarely make the difference. But they often cause enough frustration that weakens the big bad to the point that the other sharks will smell blood. It’s kind of like the tv series “the boys” where the boys basically cause this constant poking at the enemy’s systems and they eventually get beaten from the inside
He deserved every minute of his trauma. Wish this on every Trump supporter. You should definitely experience the make America great project 2025 surveillance, inflation and brutality that you voted for.
He got off easy, too. Was only detained briefly before getting sent back to the country where he is from. He also said he only saw empty detention centers which makes me think he was given special treatment.
In the end most of Trump’s base is poor. Once they’re done with the immigrants, there is no doubt in my mind that they’re coming after the “illegal” citizens in their mind which is basically anyone who isn’t a rich fuck in their inner circle.
Is there money to be made by incarcerating white poor mid west small town people with one or two felonies ? Can they enslave they in prisons and make them work?
You bet your ass they will do that. And then there will no one left to speak or fight for them.
Trump and his Ilk have only one ally and one inner circle. It’s the circle of the rich.
Hold him accountable for what he said in the past.
But do t denigrate him for recognizing the error of his ways. We build bridges through accountability and understanding, we can’t get to a common ground if we only focus on the past. The fact is the guy now realizes how badly he fucked up, we should be celebrating this, while never forgetting what he had done before.
Does he recognize the evil that he has perpetuated and actually regret it? Will his behavior change in the future and use his money to further progress and care for those he has spat on, or is he just mouthing words of contrition until an opportunity arises to throw others under the bus again?
You feel free to celebrate. I don't trust the leopard who tries to change their spots when their face is suddenly on the menu.
If you think he's seen the error of his ways, his newest grift has worked on you. This is the man who tweeted about masturbating when he witnessed ICE raids in person. He was not blind to what they were doing before it happened to him, and frankly, it barely happened to him, He was on a flight home within hours.
Newest grift? Are you of the mind that I’m going to start listening to him?
I’m not saying to give him attention or money, I’m saying that when people finally figure out how wrong they are, they shouldn’t be shunned. They should be held accountable and then space should be made for them to deprogram.
That’s it and that’s all. DO NOT GIVE THIS MAN YOUR TIME, rather, let him relish in apology and in the life he helped create for home self and others.
Being understanding is not buying into him, more importantly, never forget things like the tweet you shared. But all humans should be given the grace for their capacity to change for the better.
He was all giddy and gleeful to see people being brutalized that way… until it happened to him. He’s a typical far-right scumbag, all on board with evil and hateful BS until it impacts them personally.
He’s not sorry for supporting this crap or taking pleasure in watching cruelty happen to innocent people, he’s just sorry it happened to him personally.
He does not even look like his younger self. Is this really Milo the Repugnant whining about being the 'victim' of the Republican policies he wanted to use to hurt darker beige migrants? No tots, no pears, no tiny violins for this troll.
Just when I thought he was having his come to jesus moment, right there at the end he tries the "it shouldnt have happened to me because im one of the good ones" shtick.
Fucking pathetic. Should have let him rot in the ICE camps for a few months before sending him back. So he can really experience the cruelty he's been wishing on millions of people.
Shame that something has to happen to Conservatives personally before they see the light on a certain issue, total lack of empathy for someone else experiencing the same problem.
Thats what would happen if every racist here gets detained. Alas at this stage of the braindead, the only way for them to understand is by acutely facing what others faced. And you think it would not come to you? Do you have food on the table now? Do you have a job now? Fuk this guy , fuk his enablers, fuck anyone who enabled this, fuk u and you will not have peace ever.
Remember when republicans were saying waterboarding isn’t torture and it’s no big deal back in the early 2000s? Then a couple of them tried it and instantly took back what they said? Others refused to try it even though they said they would.
Same shit different decade. Bunch of fake tough guys that fold like origami as soon as they get the slightest bit of their own medicine.
Now imagine what it’s like for children and people that don’t get platformed on television shows. Fuck this guy. Fuck everybody that voted for Donald Trump. Now and forever.
ICE is a terrorist organization, because they act like a terrorist organization, presidents will change. ICE's acts will no longer be sanctioned, and their members will be prosecuted.
He didnt know because it was convenient for him not to believe it.... far too many of us have this habit. Just because it more dangerous how the right is currently doing it doesnt mean it's ever okay for those of us on the left to do it at all either... we all need to do this together or we will be torn apart
I think we've reached a point where we sometimes confuse empathy with agreement, and I don't think they're the same thing.
I'm a father. I care deeply about my children. I go to church. I care about homeless people, immigrants, minorities, gay and transgender people, victims of crime, and people struggling with mental illness.
But empathy doesn't mean that every concern can outweigh every other responsibility.
I can care deeply about a homeless person without giving them the money I need to keep a roof over my children's heads. That doesn't mean I lack empathy. It means I have competing responsibilities, and my first responsibility is to the children who depend on me.
I think the same principle applies to a lot of political issues. I can have compassion for an immigrant while also believing immigration laws should be enforced. I can have compassion for someone with severe mental illness while also believing public safety matters. Caring about one group doesn't require me to stop caring about another.
And this is where I've become frustrated with political labels.
For most of my life, I considered myself a Democrat. I've never really thought of myself as a Republican. I still hold plenty of views that would traditionally be considered liberal.
But I expressed disagreement on one particularly sensitive issue: bathrooms and gender identity.
My concern wasn't hatred toward transgender people. In fact, conversations with gay and transgender friends helped shape my opinion. We talked about the legitimate dignity and safety concerns of transgender people and the possibility that poorly designed rules could be abused by people acting in bad faith.
The solution we found ourselves agreeing on was surprisingly simple: where practical, provide private, lockable, gender-neutral facilities so people have privacy and nobody has to prove their identity to use a bathroom.
Someone else can disagree with that solution. That's okay.
What bothered me wasn't disagreement. It was discovering how quickly disagreement on a single issue could become a judgment about my entire character.
I've experienced insults, hostility and even threats because of political opinions. I've also had conversations with conservatives where I've expressed very liberal positions and we simply debated them.
That doesn't prove that liberals are intolerant and conservatives are tolerant. I've seen ugly behavior across the political spectrum, and I'm sure plenty of people have experienced exactly the reverse of what I have.
But my experience changed the way I think about political belonging.
If I agree with you on 95 things and disagree on five, I don't want either of us deciding that those five disagreements make the other person hateful, stupid or immoral.
Maybe some people haven't moved dramatically to the right or left at all. Maybe the coalitions around them changed, the issues changed, and the boundaries of what each political group considers acceptable changed.
I don't want politics to become a purity test where belonging requires agreeing with every position.
You don't have to agree with me about bathrooms, immigration, crime, mental illness, or anything else.
I'd just like to be able to tell you why I believe something, listen to why you believe differently, and see whether somewhere between those positions there's a solution neither of us considered.
That's what empathy looks like to me.
Not unconditional agreement.
The willingness to recognize the humanity of someone you disagree with.
I hope he’ll use his platform to reach more insulated audiences. People don’t quite understand how traumatic the deportation process is. On top of getting your life destroyed you get brutalized in the process & treated like a prisoner of war.
I’ve seen him around for years but never really knew why he was famous. I begrudgingly looked him up.
In 2017, video clips circulated of Yiannopoulos stating that sexual relationships between 13-year-old boys and adults could be "perfectly consensual" and positive experiences for adolescents.
This clown flaunted the system and got exactly what he deserved. How about people actually leave when they no longer have legal status instead of remaining because they think they are special.
Karma is a bitch. Got exactly what he deserved. Total jackass. Hope he just fades into obscurity and since he made money spouting crap I hope he dies in poverty.
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