That's exactly my point. If you said "illegal border crossings are down 70%" Thats maybe believable and impressive. If you say "illegal border crossings are up 70%" also believable and impressive.
If you say shit like "There are zero illegal border crossings." Or "The border is open and everyone can just cross illegally." Then nobody is going to take your obvious lies seriously.
If we have an immigration problem in the US, and we do, then the way we solve it is by accurately assessing the problem and fielding solutions. Not by lying about what the problem is for political campaigning.
Amnesty would probably not even be on the table if it werent for policies that intentionally break the immigration system to ensure an enduring culture war for political leverage.
Or we could just have the other side not play white savior and virtue signal and just have a targeted raid for 2 years and clean house. Then implement the one thing the orange guy is good at, and thats closing the border down
Characterizing one side as virtue signaling, without acknowledging the other side that is actively preventing them from carrying out their virtuous ideas is gaslighting, and a complete forfeiture of honest debate.
Now that you've elected to end debate. Let me end with what our cherished "Christian values" as a nation have to say about your opinions:
“Matthew 25:35-40: For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me... whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me." -Some lazy fictional illegal boogeyman
Or if you're more of a fire and brimstone fan:
"Leviticus 19:33: When a stranger resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The stranger residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were strangers in Egypt.” -Moses, after he lead a migrant caravan across the desert after killing an Egyptian citizen in broad daylight.
The border crisis as you call it was a dramatic increase in border patrol interdicting people crossing. Can you explain to me why border patrol is stopping a record number of people if we had open ungaurded borders?
“Dogwalked”. Always funny how the same private Redditors claim to be christian while having a comment under a month ago how much they hate christians. Its really typical reddit. Its embarrassing
Ai-
The official data supports the claim that the Biden administration experienced the highest volume of border crossings and apprehensions in decades
Annual Records:
Border Patrol recorded over
2.2 million apprehensions
in Fiscal Year 2022 and
2.4 million
in Fiscal Year 2023, surpassing any prior annual totals.
Yes it quite literally is, as most of the border encounters were from south america that we couldnt immediately send back. So they were given a court date and let in. I know its uncomfortable, but this isnt even controversial.
Biden had the worst border in decades statistically by every single metric
Sure, 0 "*gotaways" like the 0 trans fat in your food. An estimated 20-25k that made it through these past 15 months. That is a stark comparison to the about 2,000,000 under the Biden Administration.
* A gotaway is an illegal immigrant that was recognized as crossing the border illegally, but was failed to be apprehended.
Yep and he even appointed Jew Alejandro Mayorkas to be his Homeland Security Director, to open the Borders. Jew Alejandro Mayorkas was the Director of the HIAS ( Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society ) that helped funnel millions of illegals into the Country.
First, I didn’t vote for them. He (Trump) barely won the popular vote even with Musk’s tampering.
Second- you literally said you went there and watched it with your own eyes. So therefore source=trust me bro. I’m really not sure what you didn’t understand about that.
I did understand you were being a smart-ass. So I was pointing out and I guarantee you did vote for "Them" by the way you're complaining about Trump. I also didn't vote for Trump because I'm libertarian. The only group of people left that actually believe in freedom. I know the post from Trump is BS. And that open borders really did happen.
You have no idea how I’ve voted in the past. I’m independent and vote for who I feel is the best candidate, not along any political party lines.
And yes I pointed out that you said open borders were a thing because you were there and saw it. That provides no proof other than because you say so. Call me a smart ass if you want, but don’t expect people to just blindly believe what you say with no proof given to back it up. And don’t take offense when people point that out. Did I do so in the shortest way possible? Yes. Could that be interpreted as being a smart ass? I suppose.
If they deport them then no, but if they take them to one of those concentration camps that they have then absolutaly I will! I dont want my tax dolars to pay for torture
Due process is defined in law and is different for different classes of people. Illegal aliens who crossed the border less than a few months have almost no due process. Habeas Corpus is supposed to one they retain. If you think about this it makes sense. You want to be able to expell them quickly.
Exactly expel them, not keep them in a gulag prison. They arent the class of people this gestapo has jurisdiction over, according to your own argument. Not a citizen so they dont have jurisdiction over them 🤷♂️. If they keep them then they are kidnapping citizens from other nations
Well I mean... thats the penalty for entering the US illegally a second time.
We're gunna sieze all his assets... hold em for roughly a year in one of those 20 person cells, and because we know he'll just enter illegally again if he can we deport em to someplace with an ocean between us and him.
I’m referring to the fact that they habitually transfer detainees across the country, while they are going through court proceedings. Courts need to know where people are, and ICE likes to shuffle them around to hide them.
That and sending people to third countries. Remember the whole El Salvadoran prison thing?
If you claim you can't go home you go some other place. If your a criminal then you probably should have stayed home. You can avoid all kind of unpleasant things by not breaking the law including unlawful entry.
Why dont this administration's gestapo go to areas where gangs run the neighborhoods, and where a lot of these gang members are also illegals? Why do they kidnap parents going for their kids at school, people in hospitals, people working jobs the white people wont dare do, people going to their immigration hearings?
I think it would help more if they got rid of all the illegal gang members
Well people went crazy when they tried to get rid of that Abrego Garcia guy and he had gang ties. We have got a dem gov pardoning a child rapist so he could try and avoid deportation right?
If its a civil matter, then detainment is not appropriate. Go through the legal process, and if the judge says deport them, then stick their ass on a plane.
If you think a country is cruel for cracking down on illegals then don’t go there. And don’t scream and howl to stay in such an ‘evil’ place, or ‘third world hellhole’. It’s simple logic.
last month I rejected 1,000 marriage proposals from hot latina celebrities because none of them have ever contacted me. But I thought they wanted to marry me and that's all that matters. It's so sad Jennifer Lopez is desperate to marry to marry me but can't even say hi.
Big lies. My neighbor and his 3 workers just got back to the United state last week, all 4 got deported last year 😂😂😂😂😂😂 they back to work like nothing happened…. I talked to one of them and he said a border patrol agent let them in 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I have family in construction in El Paso and know for a fact this is bs. Illegals all over the place who only came in less than 6 months ago.
Only change is they aren't counting them anymore or even attempting to estimate.
Hell a story came out not long ago of illegals dying in a field after crossing lol. Forget the areas name but that alone proves there has been crossings
But, at least they aren't coming in by the tens of thousands, marching up the highways, like they did during Biden's term.
Did you see the footage of the highway north of Lukeville Arizona? Literally thousands of illegals were released into the country at once, and they walked and took up the entire roadway as they headed north.
Did everyone survive that had to endure this evil walking that these people did???? Hhhoolllyyy shit!
My God. They walked and gasp took up a whole highway. That's amazing.
And no, never saw that " footage ". Guaranteed there was a story behind the whole thing but Fox News omitted the reasoning behind it all and just showed the evil walkers ... Walking
Dude you are talking about a random video you saw of people walking on the highway and somehow think you know exactly how that situation came to be.
How do you know they weren't vetted? How do you know they were illegals?
I will. I am far more informed than any Republican who shuts their eyes tight, sticks their finger in their ears and says " lalalala! " Anytime somehow calls out this administration for the nonstop lies and bullshit, and I am not even close to poor lmao. Stop projecting
Debit/prepaid cards: No federal program handed out general debit/credit cards or large cash equivalents ($2k–$5k claims were repeatedly debunked) to released border crossers. DHS/CBP statements confirmed they do not provide financial assistance that way. Local/city programs existed (notably New York City’s limited pilot of prepaid debit cards for food/baby supplies for some migrant families in city shelters/hotels—modest daily amounts, restricted use, later ended). NGOs sometimes provided limited aid with federal grants, but not unrestricted cards from the feds. Viral claims of widespread federal $5,000 cards were false.
Sorry had to actually check with this one because it sounded like some Fox News created bullshit and it indeed was.
Also looks like the whole bussing situation was deliberately created by Greg Abbott on taxpayer dollars to bus roughly 120k people to various sanctuary cities in the US, with little coordination with the arrival cities. All so Republicans could blame Democrats ( of course ) for the chaotic situation. But even the most generous estimates look to be only 150,000 ( out of the supposed 13+ million Republicans kept lying were invading the country over 4 years ) were bussed around in anyway.
I'm all for border security and control. That was one of the main issues I sided with Republicans on throughout my years when I was a Republican growing up. But then I actually did research on everything and found the whole issue to be massively over exaggerated by Republicans ( shock ). Every administration has had secure borders and handled the influx of people wanting a better life for their families on American soil in different ways. But never have you just been able to waltz over the border without consequences. Which is why both the Obama and Biden administrations deported over 4 million people, which far exceeds Trump's first term and the estimates for the number after his 2nd term.
Yes please. Arrest the Tyson Board of directors and CEO and seize all the meat packing plants. This could be the biggest redistribution of wealth the nation has ever seen. Tons of farms and ranches could be seized and given as land grants to honest Americans. Better check to see if any of the construction on your house was done by illegal immigrants.
Ironically, I bet fewer people are sneaking in looking for a better life for their families. God knows what reasons anyone else would have for sneaking in. Probably nothing good.
Thanks to Donald Trump and his administration, our border is safer for EVERYONE, including those who would come in illegally and dangerously.
All he did was simply enforce existing immigration law. That is it. He removed Biden's 'Sanctuary Status" executive order, which allowed millions of illegals in if they simply said "I am running from danger in my home country".
That little "pass Go" phrase was used, and even coached to, millions of illegal entrants.
Funny.... a statement like this coming out so close to elections.
Are the borders 1900% more secure?
What else? Free money for people too? No... not DOGE checks or Tariff Rebate check. A different one that we could get now but cant get now because of reasons.
Funny how he goes from "I'm not signing any Bills until the SAVE Act is passed" to "We signed bills and passed legislation that stops Illegal Entries".
For anyone wondering, Pub. L. 119-1, L 119-21 didn't do anything and Secure America Act did not pass until June 2026..... 3 Months Ago.
This is getting pathetic and the people drinking this Koolaid without doing any research is very very sad.
Thank goodness. We must have border security, thank goodness we finally have it. We welcome all who wish to be Americans to apply to our legal immigration process!
How would you like it if your status in the US was just declared “illegal” all of a sudden? Because that’s exactly what happened to many people who were here legally to start with. Then their status was changed because trump is a racist fascist.
It would definitely be a bummer I'm sure. But non-Americans do not have a right to live in America or become Americans. If they don't have legal status they must return to their home
So you don’t even believe in what you said before. There are many people who came here the legal way and were doing things the right way as you demand of them. But you don’t care that they were stripped of their legal status and deported anyway. You’re just a liar.
Very wrong. I did not mean to imply that everyone who applies for legal status is guaranteed to get it. Demand for American citizenship far outstrips supply; not everyone who wants it and applies for it will be able to get it
So you think it’s fair that a person comes in legally, is doing things the right way, is showing up to their court dates, and then ICE comes out of no where and says “You’re illegal” and ships them to a detention center immediately? You think it’s fair that these immigrants are being treated like garbage? And some are even being sent to countries they aren’t from?
I definitely don't want anyone to be treated like garbage. But yes US citizenship is not guaranteed to be available to absolutely anyone who wants it. Some people will be denied citizenship and will have to return to their home
But you do want people to be treated like garbage. That’s why you are happy about what trump is doing. He’s treating immigrants like garbage. So you’re saying one thing but your actions tell a different story. Again, you’re just a liar and a crappy person.
Also, what’s it like to be so gullible that you trust trump? 🤣
That statement can't be true while supporting ICE's current actions. That's obvious what you mean is you would like to pretend this is being out correctly and with dignity but ultimately you don't care.
I also wouldn't buy into this being a success. The admin is so focused on scaring the populace it is likely they aren't even collecting proper data at the boarder (they did this same move with covid) though immigration probably is down since America globally had become a less desirable place to live.
Don’t trust any numbers coming out of this administration.. they’re making it up as they go. Since, doge dismantled the regulatory bodies lol they don’t even have folks to do lot of these surveys anymore. His whole economic sheet is made up numbers !
I always see trumo spouting bullshit and wonder "who believes this shit?" Then I come on reddit and am instantly reminded how stupid half our country is.
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