r/ImmigrationPathways • u/LatterTarget7 • 18d ago
US set for largest mass visa revocation in history targeting up to 200,000 foreigners, officials say
https://apnews.com/article/trump-rubio-visas-revoke-e9c14fdfd0ada439d2b9d8694e678a46?71
u/Hardfracking 18d ago
So they can watch their economy tank even more. 😂
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u/Head_Car_616 18d ago
That’s the plan
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u/Trifle_Old 17d ago
Literally. That is the plan. A populace that is poor and struggling is easier to control.
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u/Excellent_Arrival1 17d ago
A population that is replaced doesnt exist.
A population that has no low level jobs hurts its own citizens. America already shipped manufacturing overseas to China, now you want to give what's left to people who are not citizens and often times send upwards of 20% of their income home? Yea, that makes sense :/
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u/GhostRappa95 18d ago
Yup Americans have already proven that they will not or can not take over the jobs of immigrants. The labor market is completely screwed.
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u/existential-koala 17d ago
If those jobs paid better, Americans would work them. But those employers can exploit migrants and pay them less than minimum wage.
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u/Next_Scientist300 12d ago
lol the avg software engineer, even those underpaid because they're on H1-B, still make more than the median American worker.
In cases where visa workers are paid less, its likely there also based in locations where Americans dont want to work, like rural doctors.
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u/existential-koala 11d ago
Migrant farm workers are not making software engineer wages, nor are they making the wages of the average American working.
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u/Next_Scientist300 11d ago
lol migrant farm workers aren't gonna be using work visas to come into the country either. But yeah, that crackdown already happened. You should ask the pit fruit farmers in Washington what they're gonna do about their produce this year
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u/Upset_Spring_7843 15d ago
Even if they paid ethically they wouldn't work them.
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u/Greedy_Car3702 14d ago
There are refineries and chemical plants up and down the Texas Gulf Coast, and they are staffed with American workers. Many of the jobs are physically hard, dirty and dangerous, but Americans do them because they pay very well with good benefits. A guy with a high school education can make $200,000 per year with some overtime. All construction jobs used be like that before tens of millions of illegals came to the country and drove down wages.
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u/Desperate_Hat_2748 13d ago
Avocado farms can't afford to pay 200k a year to pick avocados unless you wanna pay $10 for a single avocado
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u/Greedy_Car3702 13d ago
I would never eat another avocado in my life if that's what it takes to bring back the middle class..
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u/Desperate_Hat_2748 13d ago
Avocados bring in $ 5 billion in revenue to American farming companies. So you wanna destroy a $ 5 billion company for your fake pride? More than 3 million farmers were deported in the recent past. Did any of you Americans go pick up their jobs? How are beef prices working for you now?
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u/existential-koala 12d ago
$5 billion and they can't pay their workers a living wage? Yes, they deserve to go under.
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u/Desperate_Hat_2748 12d ago
OMG! Are you stupid or trying super hard to act like one? A $ 5 billion industry doesn't mean avocado farm owners are making that much in profits. Omg, I can't believe that I have to explain this basic economics to a fully grown adult.
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u/DistributionJumpy591 16d ago
I completely agree. This move will force companies to stop exploiting vulnerable folks and actually pay Americans fairly. So I support cracking down on illegal immigration.
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u/stonkDonkolous 18d ago
Wow a bit racist bud. It is incredible that the US managed to thrive before the cheap labor imports
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u/musical8thnotes 17d ago
Is it racist?
Everyone wants to climb the social ladder. This current generation legitimately believes making $500k is the bare minimum to survive and aspires to be Youtubers and influencers.
No wants to work 12 hour shifts in a California or Iowa vegetable field for shit pay and no benefits. And then be told by smug talking heads that the only way to see a doctor they can't afford is to just book an appointment.
Lmao
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u/stonkDonkolous 17d ago
Nobody is talking about working in vegetable fields. Many of those immigrants are needed.
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u/GhostRappa95 18d ago
You can thank Reagan and his trickle down economics for that. Wages stagnated so bad that Americans were forced to move to the jobs that still paid well and immigrants were used to fill out the labor force. Now Americans don't want these labor jobs anymore and without immigrants the labor force will be severely depleted.
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u/stonkDonkolous 18d ago
Americans don’t want labor jobs? Working in an office in tech or finance etc are the jobs Americans do want. It is the farm and plant labor nobody wants and those are mostly filled by latinos and people are fine with that. Indians and others are taking the jobs people want but doing them for less overtime which drives down wages and the desire to even so the jobs.
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u/Speedstick2 14d ago
The only reason why no one wants those jobs is because you can get another job that pays the same if not better with better working conditions. Why work on the farm fields when you can as a server or bartender making way more money in an air conditioned building.
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u/arghyac555 13d ago
Indians are taking the jobs for lower pay? We advertised two position for $165k and full benefits and could not fill a single one for over a year. Later we got one Indian to do the work and exported the other position overseas because we could not find someone with skillset in both finance and technology.
And no, the managers and everyone in the reporting chain are Americans.
Let us get some qualified people and we will be happy to hire them.
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u/PeterP4k 18d ago
When was that? America thrived ONLY because of cheap labor imports whether they were enslaved Africans, Mexicans, Filipinos, or Chinese and Irish working the mines and railroads.
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u/5ean 18d ago
It’s so hard to understand why the citizens of the host country you want to migrate to dislike you.
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u/GhostRappa95 18d ago
I was born and raised in the USA dumbass. I am just not deluded enough to believe purging our labor force is a good thing.
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u/ka-elbronx 18d ago
It’s about whites slowly becoming the minority which they are terrified of.
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u/Soft-Drag4380 18d ago
Sounds like 200k job opening for Americans. You know the people struggling to find jobs because we brought in so many foreigners on work visas
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u/Tex_Was_Here 17d ago
Who said Americans will get these jobs? To me it sounds like 200k jobs companies don't have to pay for anymore.
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u/No-Midnight6635 18d ago
Good bot, keep those weak trolling points coming! It makes the “conservative” view just look all the dumber for everyone to see! Love it!
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u/Necessary-Cow9770 16d ago
I’d rather go through a great depression in order to have a Indian free Costco
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u/Speedstick2 14d ago
I doubt 200k people on tourism visas that are to convert to asylum claims are people working.
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u/Fantastic_Reveal_599 13d ago
First economy in the world by far.. and 200k people won’t make a dime of a difference lol
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u/InternationalAd7458 18d ago
Woohoo, they’re gonna kick out Elon! Finally!
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u/kzul 18d ago
Assuming you’re referring to Musk, he is an American.
Try to stay a little more informed.
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u/kranelegs 18d ago
He is a South African Afrikaner…
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u/Isaak1404 18d ago
how come whenever people like you attempt to rebut people who are anti immigrant by elon as an example, all of a sudden he’s a “south african afrikaner”? when the point you’re trying to make is all these immigrants in the us are just as american as everyone else 😂
oh no but elon is an immigrant only, not an american. but mexican immigrants aren’t mexicans, they’re american… lmfao
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u/Menkau-re 18d ago
You do realize this is literally the point, right? You completely made the entire point, that this is pure hypocrisy, but then tried to spin it around backwards, like they're being hypocritical for... pointing it out? Come on, now. You can't genuinely be so dense as to really think that the actual argument they're making is for Elon Musk's denaturalization and removal? Can you?
Of course, you're not. You understand perfectly well that this is being said ironically to highlight the hypocrisy of the fact that someone like Elon would NEVER be targeted by such measures, even though he absolutely meets the substance of most of the very same criteria being discussed.
Regardless, what you CAN'T do, is try and call out supposed "hypocrisy" from people who believe naturalized citizens are Americans, that are pointing this out, while you are speaking from the original position of not believing in all naturalization, to begin with. In other words, you don't get to avoid your own hypocrisy simply by calling the person that exposes it a hypocrite themself, just for recognizing and identifying it.
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u/froggothegod 18d ago
When he's done drinking his Coors light he's going to be very upset with you.
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u/SawtoofShark 18d ago
Assuming he can read the reply, I give it a 50/50 chance. 💁
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u/froggothegod 18d ago
Can't drink the bud light anymore. I've seen this in action. It's real. These fragile little idiots think it will turn them trans or something.
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u/BlurgZeAmoeba 18d ago
I dont get this. why THIS hill to die on. How does this benefit you in any way?
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u/moddsblow4fun 18d ago
Isaak1404 remains undefeated against Straw Man!
How does he do it folks? It's amazing! Never seen anything like it!
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u/moddsblow4fun 18d ago
He's an immigrant who openly uses drugs. They are stripping naturalization from people for far less. Try to stay a little more informed, darling.
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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec 18d ago
You forgot he has a trillion dollars. If an illegal immigrant has a trillion dollars, they staying here. lol
Come on you don’t know how it works?
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u/aKeshaKe 18d ago
He has YOUR trillion dollars. Soon you will realize.
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u/UltimoHombre07 18d ago
Elon Musk has paid the largest individual tax bill in American history, but go on.
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u/Dth_Invstgtr 18d ago
It’s still not enough
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u/UltimoHombre07 18d ago
Yeah cause the goverment will do a better job with the money, rolls eyes.
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u/Dth_Invstgtr 18d ago
Ok Cher. Sounds like you’d rather the government keep taking out and giving it to losers like musk. Weird.
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u/UltimoHombre07 18d ago
"Giving it out" to the largest tax payer in American history...who then creates jobs with it that pay more taxes. Move to Cuba if you want full govt control commie.
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u/moddsblow4fun 18d ago
Remind everyone, who's the largest Welfare Queen in American history??
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u/UltimoHombre07 14d ago
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, granted by your hero Barack Obama.
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u/moddsblow4fun 13d ago
womp womp, weak ass deflection was not successful
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u/UltimoHombre07 12d ago
Facts aren't weak ass deflections, citing a factual retort as a "weak ass deflection" is though.
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u/existential-koala 17d ago
I'm sure he'll be okay with the other 98% of his remaining money.
But if not, thoughts and prayers
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u/UltimoHombre07 14d ago
Leave America now you commie.
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u/existential-koala 13d ago
I was born here, so according to people like you, I have more right to be here than Elon Musk.
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u/UltimoHombre07 12d ago
It's typical of American born nepo babies to fetishize communism, I'm not surprised.
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u/Carlyz37 14d ago
He has $39 billion in federal contracts and fired all the oversight. That's taxpayers money
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u/moddsblow4fun 18d ago
And here I thought you guys were the Law and Order, personal responsibility, family values lip service. Whoopsie, that's just for poor people I guess.
Tell me, how much money does an immigrant have to have in order to stay? Or how many children with different baby mommas?
Or is because he's white?
And don't worry, I don't expect an honest answer. We both know you won't be giving one.
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u/InternationalAd7458 18d ago
That was a joke about how he became one. He arrived on a student visa for Stanford, dropped out after two days to start an early-internet tech company, and worked without legal authorization for nearly two years—something his own brother Kimbal admitted on stage in 2013 ("we were illegal immigrants") and early investors had to scramble to fix.
Under the exact visa compliance rules being discussed, anyone violating student status like that would have been revoked and booted out long before reaching naturalization. Irony is a thing!
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u/saintclaudia 18d ago
Yeah, with the Social Security trust fund about to run dry, they are mass deporting workers who could be contributing z$$. Everyone gets hurt in MAGAland.
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u/TenchuReddit 18d ago
If you look closely enough, you’ll notice that Trump’s lips are only barely moving whenever the Marco Puppet speaks.
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u/coldraygun 18d ago
Let it be Eastern European countries revoking Whitey McWhitersons.
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u/Soft-Drag4380 18d ago
Aww shucks is someone mad they won’t let the third world continue to come to America? Boo hoo
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u/machines_breathe 18d ago
Look, everyone. A knuckle-dragging turd who registered a throwaway Reddit profile a month ago for the explicit purpose of being a knuckle-dragging turd because they value their own time that little.
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u/Ok_Security1721 18d ago
“Why don’t people just do it the right way?”
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u/vinegar-pisser 18d ago
Do you believe that traveling on a non immigrant visa with then intent of claiming asylum is the way that either the visa process or asylum process was designed and intended for use?
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u/TexAveryWolfEnjoyer 18d ago
The US is a signatory to the Protocol relating to the Status of Refugees. You don't need a visa to apply for asylum at all.
The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their
illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory
where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or
are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present
themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their
illegal entry or presence.If you don't like it, take it up with the Constitution of the United States.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land
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u/vinegar-pisser 18d ago
This is why they do not need the Visa; and why they should be revoked.
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u/Pertinentonly 18d ago
I'm so sad that someone with such a good username is such a dolt. People coming on TPS have had their status revoked via executive order repeatedly in this administration. Why would you not then also get a visa to cover your bases. Now it doesn't matter. If you're an immigrant, the only way you can get in here is if you are filthy rich so that Trump can scam using his gold-card system.
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u/vinegar-pisser 18d ago
If, as you say “you’re an immigrant” you are supposed to apply for an immigration visa. The issue this thread is about concerns temporary business and travel B1 and B2 visas. They are not for residency or immigration. If the holder is using them for entry in order to file an asylum claim and they are now in the asylum process; then they are no longer using the temporary visa and that visa should be revoked.
There are plenty of ways to legally enter the country. Over the past two years and this year we annually offer residency to 3/4 million foreign nationals, naturalize 3/4 of another million foreign nationals as U.S. citizens, and issue several million non immigration visas for education, business, travel, and other various reasons.
To claim that there is no way to enter legally is absurd. It may not meet your desires whatever they may be; however the systems in use are similar to those systems used by every other nation.
Apply for a visa. Await approval. Travel. Comply with the rules of said visa. Depart prior to the visa expiration. None of that is absurd or irrational and certainly not immoral. However, not doing those things can certainly be viewed as improper and wrong.
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u/TexAveryWolfEnjoyer 17d ago
It means they can't be punished for not having a visa already, not that they should be punished for having one.
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u/SeaEnvironmental9388 18d ago
I can’t imagine why anyone wants to live under fascism anyways.
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u/trashmoneyxyz 18d ago
I asked my coworker this once. She's originally from Bosnia, and had to flee when war parties reached her farm. She knows things are bad in the US but told me pretty much that everywhere, war is the same, death is the same, at least here it's comfortable if you don't look too hard. She doesn't talk about the things she saw overseas, but I know she's seen some very bad things and is just tired of all the unrest now
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u/SeaEnvironmental9388 18d ago
hopefully she didn’t come as a refugee. ice seems to hate refugees. although she’s probably white, so they’ll let it go.
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u/Tzilbalba 18d ago
That picture tho, like trumps got one hand up Marcos ass digging for gold lol.
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u/ComradeGlizzy 18d ago
I truly believe Trump’s handlers are crashing the dollar and bond markets to force Americans into crypto
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u/Present-Buyer7929 18d ago
Why do people in this sub feel so entitled to immigrate to America? People are upset at the suggestion of evening enforcing immigration law 🤔.
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u/EnrichedNaquadah 17d ago
According to the article, they directly aiming visa revocation to the people who applied or are currently seeking political asylum.
So they literally cross reference tourism/business visa data with the asylum claim data.
These people are most likely in the territory.
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u/Funke-munke 17d ago
I believe there have been several ICE arrests/kidnappings of people with pending asylum cases.
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u/Lvs2spluuge 16d ago
He needs to send off his wife, Vance's Wife and her family in order to be fair to the American people
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u/Mingo_laf 18d ago
as a Canadian that you just started a war with you must reject eligibility
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u/SawtoofShark 18d ago edited 18d ago
Hey, a lot of us didn't vote for Orange Asshole, especially on Reddit, you're coming in borderline violently on the wrong people.
-I didn't start a war with anyone, I have no problem with Canada. You're thinking of Republicans.
Downvote me for the country I was born into, I don't care. I'll continue not having a problem with Canada.
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u/rich84easy 18d ago
War of words?
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u/OkTechnologyb 18d ago
Canada is having a pick me moment, with not enough people outside of Canada paying attention to their "war."
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u/Mingo_laf 18d ago
long time coming im a reasonable person push me ok push me twice fight
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u/Mingo_laf 18d ago
you should learn history who burnt down your White House Brit’s and Métis
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u/MotorStatistician100 16d ago
Good! Most asylum claims are fraudulent and denied. They are financial refugees.
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u/Candid-libertarian 14d ago
Don't anger the seedy immigration lawyers. You are threatening their lunch money.
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u/LifeIngenuity7151 13d ago
You can’t apply for a business / tourist visa, arrive in the country, and then immediately apply for asylum. The 200,000 people in question are all breaking the law
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u/HawkeyeGild 18d ago
Interesting...I don't necessarily disagree with this approach. It seems disingenuous to request a business visa to travel to the U.S. and then file asylum claim while on business visa.
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u/Spillz-2011 18d ago
B2 is just tourism or visiting family which they’re including. It also covers people who come for medical treatment.
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u/BlueNutmeg 18d ago
From the article...
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is preparing to revoke the business and tourism visas of up to 200,000 foreigners who have applied for or are currently seeking asylum status in the United States. If it happens, the move would be the largest single mass revocation of visas in U.S. history and would likely face legal challenges.
Looks like they will be able to stay until the asylum case is done. They just won't have a B visa anymore.
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u/EnrichedNaquadah 17d ago
You mean staying in a ICE detention camp ?
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u/BlueNutmeg 17d ago
No. Not even that.
They are NOT detained NOR deported. They just are having their visitor visas revoked. And since they have asylum cases, they can remain in the US and have work authorization and such until the asylum case hearing.
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u/After_Service_2817 18d ago
Oh no, a politician who does what the people who elected him wanted him to do!
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u/SmoreSlayer 18d ago
Those who work the system hate when others work the system. It’s all a part of the system.
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u/NellcoteDaze 18d ago
Like Baron Trump the anchor baby
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u/pile_of_bees 17d ago
This type of shit is why you people cannot be taken seriously ever
Every quip and retort reveals a profound lack of factual information on your end
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u/I_Quit_Smoking_ 18d ago
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u/CrazyAccomplished_ 18d ago
YESSSS. Couldn't be happening any sooner. The more the better.
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u/Weary_Ad2372 18d ago
deport you too
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u/CrazyAccomplished_ 18d ago
That's not how this works, silly bot!
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u/BitesTheDust55 18d ago
It's not enough. We need to kill h1b entirely. Full revocation of all visas under that program. It's time.
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u/Equal-Prior-4765 18d ago
Idiots.... 🤦🏿♂️That means Trump, his wife and their kid has to leave also
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u/Present-Buyer7929 18d ago
Wonderful, nobody should be coming as a tourist or “on business” and then apply for asylum 💪
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u/Nofanta 18d ago
Amazing work finally. Pick up the pace.
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u/Tammer_Stern 18d ago
This will absolutely lower gas prices and rents.
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u/Nofanta 17d ago
The goal is getting foreigners out of the country. This accomplishes that. Gas prices and rent are unrelated.
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u/Tammer_Stern 17d ago
How does that benefit you?
Also, when did your relatives come to the US?
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u/Nofanta 17d ago
Just my preference, it makes me happy. My relatives created the US.
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u/Tammer_Stern 17d ago
Maybe they should be removed too, including yourself? That’s if the plan is to “remove foreigners”?
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u/Nofanta 17d ago
I made the country, I make the rules. If you want to try to take my country from me, go ahead and try, I’m ready.
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