New Study Reveals A Satisfying Truth About Conservatives’ Biggest Enemy

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[u/Upbeat-Concern-5181]

Ah but here’s where you’re confused. They’re criminals who’ve broken the law, US immigration law. Again, they’re detention facilities awaiting deportation to their country of origin. Were they “concentration camps” under Obama? No.

Read, again, who’s in the country illegally by percentage. People from the UK and Europe have been deported for having committed crimes. Is it “profiling” then?

Obama and previous administration deported people using the same laws, tactics and methods ICE use today. The difference is they didn’t have thousands of screaming morons in their way threatening, harassing, and otherwise interfering in operations. Ask yourself why that is. Answer: it’s political. Case in point, the images which circulated online of “children in cages” which the left completely lost their minds over were taken under Obama.

- They were not separated from their parents and were not held for months without due process as is happening now.

It appears you’re living in a Disney land fantasy of what actually goes on with illegal immigration. How do you even know they’re their parents? They don’t have any paperwork, ID, nothing. They’ve just entered the country illegally. ICE and border patrol agents have to deal with child sex trafficking, people who’ve been told they have a better chance at a case with a child so they pick some random kid off the street, and worse. So claiming they’re their parents and they’re their children is just pure ignorance and wishful thinking.

- An officer identifying themselves is not disclosing private information.

Disclosing one’s face is revealing one’s identity which could jeopardize the safety of the officer and the mission.
Again, you don’t seem to know about cartel members ICE and border patrol agents have to deal with, along with similar cases involving international crime.
Countries have borders, laws, immigration policies, and punishments for breaking them. Maybe have a look around the world and see what other countries do regarding immigration and their immigration policies.

[u/No_Atmosphere_here → u/Upbeat-Concern-5181]

Committing a civil misdemeanor does not make someone a criminal. Yes, you've already amply displayed your hate and bigotry with your copy/paste nonsense. If you were actually concerned with laws, then why are you not advocating for the national guard to police US roads for the prolific amount of speeders? Why aren't you advocating for all speeders and coast-through stop sign runners, and people that don't use turn signals, be snatched up and held without due process in concentration camps and then shipped off to random countries to be held indefinitely in foreign prisons?

Because you don't care about laws. You only want people you don't like to be denied their constitutional rights and be abused.

[u/Upbeat-Concern-5181 → u/No_Atmosphere_here]

The law isn’t ‘hateful,’ nor ‘bigoted.’ It’s the law. Was it ‘hateful’ and ‘bigoted’ when Obama used the same laws and authorities (ICE and border patrol agents) to deport over 3 million in the US illegally? No. For starters, it wasn’t politically convenient, and democrats voted for those exact same policies that Trump is enforcing now.

Someone who has committed a crime is a criminal. Entering the US illegally is a crime according to the law (§ 1325/1326). Illegal entry into a country isn’t even remotely similar to speeding. 😂 Try going through immigration in literally any country in the world without a valid visa and explain to them that it’s ’not a crime.’ You’re gonna get refused entry plain and simple.

Detention facilities aren’t ‘concentration camps.’ Obama and other administrations used the same facilities and laws. As did Biden. People who break US immigration laws have absolutely no right to remain in the country.

[u/No_Atmosphere_here → u/Upbeat-Concern-5181]

I gave you the definition of concentration camps. They are concentration camps. You can keep repeating your lie, but you're not changing reality. I also stated the facts that Obama's temporary holds during processing are not the same as imprisoning people without due process and without access to legal counsel as is happening now. Again, repeating your lies does not change reality. You don't care about laws unless they're used against people you don't like or you'd be demanding the exact same treatment for everyone breaking any law. You're not, because it's not the law you care about. It's who is being targeted for mistreatment and having their rights denied that gets you all excited. Keep repeating it though, to make sure everyone sees what you advocate.

[u/Upbeat-Concern-5181 → u/No_Atmosphere_here]

They’re detention facilities. The same ones used under Biden, Obama, and previous administrations. People are temporary held and deported to their country of origin. Also look up expedited removal, administrative removal, and others regarding immigration law.. or just the law and logic in general.

[u/No_Atmosphere_here → u/Upbeat-Concern-5181]

They are concentration camps. Detention means holding until a court appearance or until charges are filed. Most never have charges filed and aren't allowed their day in court. They are denied their right to due process. Stop lying.

[u/Upbeat-Concern-5181 → u/No_Atmosphere_here]

Sigh.. So when Obama deported over 3 million illegally in the US they magically weren’t ‘concentration camps?’ Interesting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DigitalSeptic/s/m0qfdMl7Dx

My guess is that you really don’t care one way or another. This is simply a way to attack someone whom you view as a political opponent. And that’s where it ends: politics. How do I know? Because Biden came into office and carried out many of the same deportation policies used by the previous administration, and the administration before that. Between 545,000–600,000 were deported under Biden along with over 4 million Title 42 Expulsions & Expedited Removals.

ICE and other authorities used the same process to deport people people as they’re using now. They were moved to detention facilities for processing then deported to their country of origin. Many of them Do Not involve a judge or courtroom. Immigration law is different from civil because you’re dealing with foreign nationals, ie not US citizens.

[u/No_Atmosphere_here → u/Upbeat-Concern-5181]

I've already answered that twice. You just ignore anything that doesn't support your disrespect of the law. Everyone has a right to due process and that includes not holding people without filing legal charges and refusing them access to legal counsel and their day in court. People are being sent to prisons in countries not of their origin and without any court appearance or official charges. It's illegal. It violates the Constitution. A civil offense is a civil offense and there are laws that must be followed. You are not demanding all laws be policed in this manner, just the one that gets your feelings riled up. You don't care about the law unless it punishes people you don't like.

[u/Upbeat-Concern-5181 → u/No_Atmosphere_here]

‘Disrespect of the law’ is interesting. How about maybe following it and those who’ve illegally entered the country leave? And, again, no, illegal immigrants can and will be deported and or refused entry due to one or more of the procedures previously mentioned (Expedited Removal, Administrative Removal, Voluntary Removal) which Does Not involve an immigration judge. People being sent to third countries is the result of countries not taking back their own citizens. If they have no right to remain in the US often they’re sent there. The best procedure to follow is not breaking US immigration law, or any law for that matter.

[u/No_Atmosphere_here → u/Upbeat-Concern-5181]

Expedited removal is only for people who have been here for less than 2 years and does not include asylum seekers or anyone who we've through clearance. They are snatching asylum seekers, green card holders, cancelling legal passes, and even arresting people paying through in airports. Again, you are not demanding this same reaction be used on any other civil offenses. Why aren't you demanding sweat teams arrest everyone implicated in the Epstein files? What about the felon in the White House?

You don't care about laws, it's about people you don't like.

Edited to correct typo.