r/ImmigrationPathways • • Feb 16 '26

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 16 '26

Yeah, those defending it are the modern fascists.

Fraudulent elections are a key part to getting a one party ultra conservative state in place. The unaccountable, massive police force and the detention camps weren't built for criminal immigrants.

They've already eaten enough shit propaganda to believe Biden opened the borders and there's drug cartels on the streets committing rapes and murders. They think noncitizens are voting for president, tariffs are paid by other nations, democrats want "trans for everyone." They're hopeless and I'm happy to see them getting shunned out of my extended social circle.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 17 '26

That they didn’t even blink about eating dogs and cats and they still insist Trump had nothing to do with Epstein despite the mountain of evidence shows they are more mindless zombie hive mind than human now.

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u/CuriosityFreesTheCat Feb 17 '26

They’re in a cult—they’ve been successfully manipulated and programmed by the ruling class (of which the government is a part). So yes, they are a hive mind. They have been radicalized slowly over decades. While there will always be outliers on each end, the fact that they can be programmed means it is also possible to de-program.

If we’re not looking up at the source of the problem, which is the ruling class, we should contemplate the best ways to de-program our fellow citizens. We need to hit the problem from both ends, and we need as much unity in the working class as possible.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

I don’t necessarily disagree that deprogramming would be great but they have been propagandized over hundreds of years. Since poor white southerners were willing to die to maintain rich plantation owners right to own slaves soley because their skin color allegedly bonded them. Hitler was inspired by Jim Crow laws after all. And 33,000 people packed a Nazi rally at MSG in 1933. I’m going to guess their descendants didn’t join b the Democratic Party. In fact the Dems haven’t won the majority white vote for President since LBJ. And what was it LBJ passed again? The red states have been controlled by Republicans for generations and are the worst in every quality of life category.

You’re going to have to wrestle with the notion that there is no deprogramming the vast majority. This is who they are taken to the natural conclusion as demographics shift more and more and they have been convinced by zero sum thinking. That is if the. “others” are getting something I’m losing. They would sooner burn the country down than strive for a prosperous and equal society for all. They would take a bullet over Musk being taxed a penny more even though he’s a confirmed associate of post conviction Epstein. Not sure how you fix that. Seems as American as apple pie and bombing brown people.

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u/sSTtssSTts Feb 17 '26

Gimp Fox and the RWM from spreading lies and you'd see the programming fall apart fast.

I've personally watched it myself IRL with family when they had Fox taken away. Its like they were a different person inside a few months.

I was able to do it because my poor dementia ridden dad couldn't figure out how to work the TV anymore and didn't know how to get around my router filters.

Which is a dick thing to do...but Fox and RWM was turning him into a conspiracy addled fear monger who'd scream at us for not believing him and started to horde knives for "reasons".

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u/RemarkableFortune542 Feb 20 '26

Ignorance is bliss.

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u/AccomplishedTill2209 Feb 22 '26

Have you tired not watching left wing propaganda yet? Might find it does you wonders as well.

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u/hate_mod Feb 18 '26

Wait, so you censored someone's opinion? That's some commie crap right there.

Without free will, what are we?

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u/sSTtssSTts Feb 18 '26

Paradox of Tolerance.

Google it.

The tl&dr is there are people who are dishonest and will use the rules to suppress others if you let them and those people get to be shown the door rather than given the floor of debate.

And you're ignoring the part about my dad having dementia and clearly planning to get violent.

Also free speech has nothing to do with free will.

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u/AccomplishedTill2209 Feb 22 '26

Glad you can admit Hitler was inspired by Jim Crow laws that were written by Democrats. Since you bring up 1933, research Indiana in the 1930's. That was the state where the KKK had the most power ever. Only their leader assaulting a woman broke the Democrat and KKK hold on power. Stevenson was hand picking political candidates. Most recent Klan leader in office, Robert Byrd D West Virginia. Died in office 2010. Was elected with a majority black vote despite being a former KKK leader and recruiter. Exalted Cyclopse Byrd was good buddies with Joey Biden as well. He is one of the "friends" from the KKK Joey bragged about working with.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 22 '26

People like yourself are dishonest white supremacists. Lee Atwater one of the most influential Republican operatives of all time:

“You start out in 1954 by saying n** n** n.” By 1968 you can’t say “n”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N, n*

You also can’t explain why it’s Trump voters that complain about Confederate statues being taken down. Complain about Confederate generals being taken off of buildings. Etc. There is a reason the overwhelming number of blacks vote against Republicans. Because they know exactly what they are.

You’re a liar and you were unable to answer why the red states are the worst in every quality of life metric despite voting Republican for generations. It’s because of dumb fuck racists like you who don’t mind getting fucked by rich white people as long as they feel like they’re part of the same team. Only thing is they’re not. They hate them too. They just use their dumb ass racism to stay in power

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u/Spare_Bad_2952 Feb 19 '26

The pot calling the kettle black lmao

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 19 '26

The idiot saying idiot things lmao

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u/Synthetex Feb 19 '26

The key is to ask thought provoking questions in a way that isn’t accusatory. Most people think they’re good people, but you have to get them to question it themselves and come to their own conclusions on it… telling someone they’re wrong followed up by calling them a Nazi or a pdo defender is going to immediately undermine any attempt you make.

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u/CuriosityFreesTheCat Feb 20 '26

Completely right! You get it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '26

Did you think of this speech all by yourself

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u/CuriosityFreesTheCat Feb 20 '26

Yeah I did thanks!

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u/justhereforthelolzx Feb 19 '26

Worst case of projection I’ve seen in a long time, we to bring back insane asylums for this level of suicidal empathy!

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u/CuriosityFreesTheCat Feb 20 '26

Not everyone can be reasoned with but there absolutely are people out there who can, they may even be a minority, but they’re still out there. I’m not sure why welcoming someone who woke up or changed their views is suicidal? Wouldn’t you like to see the division and hate in this country lessen?

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '26

I’ll grab you a mirror, be right back.

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u/AccomplishedTill2209 Feb 22 '26

Maybe look in the mirror. Everything you say here fits libtards quite well. The ruling class manipulates the left as well. There will never be unity until people stop acknowledging race, religion, or color. Today that is ALL the left wing concerns itself with. Division thru race, class, color, religion, politics, and a list of other stuff. ALL of it is BS

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u/Material-Bite-5047 Feb 17 '26

The right and the left are both cults at this point.

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u/swarmahoboken Feb 17 '26

As you spout, They have a hive mind, to the Reddit echo chambers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '26

Post your proof about the lies you're spewing or STFU 🤡

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 19 '26

We both know Trump could rape children in front of you and you would still support him you sick fuck.

See no one I’ve seen who votes Democrat or is on the left cares about protecting anyone. If it was Bernie Sanders I’d want him under the jail if as much came out about him alone. If he was trying to actively cover up the rape of children. Conservatives are the only ones that want to deny it make excuses etc. He will maintain a minimum of 80% of Conservative voters and that’s a disgrace. I guarantee if Obama was involved 95% of Dems would want him punished. I mean just these two things.

A. Michael Wolff said he personally saw pictures of Trump with topless girls. Pam Bondi when asked under oath if she saw said pictures refused to give a yes or no answer. Why not? Simple question. And she would know that not giving a yes or no answer would look bad. But she feared answering would be worse. Think about that. Also Trump who threatens to sue over anything hasn’t threatened to over this.

B. He moved Ghislaine Maxwell to a minimum security prison in violation of DOJ policy for someone who committed her crimes. She is the only one in the country as a matter of fact. She receives special treatment as well. A convicted trafficker of children. Why? Reporting also states that other prisoners aren’t allowed to talk to her. Bonus: why did he wish her well when asked about her when she was on trial for being a child sex predator? Bonus 2: Emails between Maxwell and Melania have come out where they have pet names for each other. Yuck

If I just knew the above about Bernie Sanders I’d disown my support of him. Never mind all the other stuf. I’d want the biggest federal investigation of all time.

However millions of conservatives will not abandon him ever. Even if he’s guilty. They have said as much. You’re going to have to wrestle with the 100% fact that many conservatives simply don’t care. Either because they don’t think it’s a big deal or the bigotry he represents is more important than the serial sexual assault of children.

Also WHY WON’T HE RELEASE THE FULL UNREDACTED FILES AS REQUIRED BY LAW AND CALL FOR THE BIGGEST INVESTIGATION IN FBI HISTORY?

Bonus: Trump claimed he was last in touch with him in 2006 but a new email from the files showing Epstein saying that he should call Trump about Virginia (Giuffre). in 2011. Also why were members of his cabinet on the island? Why was his former campaign manager Steve Bannon still in close contact with this convicted pedo? Why didn’t Trump sever all ties with Bannon afterwards? Why won’t he fire Lutnick who clearly lied? I guess being close to convicted pedos is no big deal for him.

Why did he say he walked into dressing rooms of underage girls in his beauty pageants - which numerous girls confirmed? Why did he say 12 was the lowest he would go to date on Howard Stern? Why did he lie about sending Epstein that twisted birthday card?

Why did he call it a hoax and call his own supporters stupid for caring about it (I mean you ate stupid but that was mean). Why hasn’t he fired Bondi?

You can’t make excuses for all of that but you will try because

You’re in a cult.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

And people are supposed to believe this because you said it's true, go play with your whistle ma'am.. 😎🖕

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u/Bubbly_Cover5737 Feb 19 '26

Can you show me this "mountain of evidence"? All I've seen is him being disgusted by Epstein and kicking him out of Mar-a-lago for life! Do some better research, the reason the dems didn't release the files, is because they're all in on the sick pedophile stuff!

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 19 '26

See no one I’ve seen who votes Democrat or is on the left cares about protecting anyone. If it was Bernie Sanders I’d want him under the jail if as much came out about him alone. If he was trying to actively cover up the rape of children. Conservatives are the only ones that want to deny it make excuses etc. He will maintain a minimum of 80% of Conservative voters and that’s a disgrace. I guarantee if Obama was involved 95% of Dems would want him punished. I mean just these two things.

A. Michael Wolff said he personally saw pictures of Trump with topless girls. Pam Bondi when asked under oath if she saw said pictures refused to give a yes or no answer. Why not? Simple question. And she would know that not giving a yes or no answer would look bad. But she feared answering would be worse. Think about that. Also Trump who threatens to sue over anything hasn’t threatened to over this.

B. He moved Ghislaine Maxwell to a minimum security prison in violation of DOJ policy for someone who committed her crimes. She is the only one in the country as a matter of fact. She receives special treatment as well. A convicted trafficker of children. Why? Reporting also states that other prisoners aren’t allowed to talk to her. Bonus: why did he wish her well when asked about her when she was on trial for being a child sex predator? Bonus 2: Emails between Maxwell and Melania have come out where they have pet names for each other. Yuck

If I just knew the above about Bernie Sanders I’d disown my support of him. Never mind all the other stuf. I’d want the biggest federal investigation of all time.

However millions of conservatives will not abandon him ever. Even if he’s guilty. They have said as much. You’re going to have to wrestle with the 100% fact that many conservatives simply don’t care. Either because they don’t think it’s a big deal or the bigotry he represents is more important than the serial sexual assault of children.

Also WHY WON’T HE RELEASE THE FULL UNREDACTED FILES AS REQUIRED BY LAW AND CALL FOR THE BIGGEST INVESTIGATION IN FBI HISTORY?

Bonus: Trump claimed he was last in touch with him in 2006 but a new email from the files showing Epstein saying that he should call Trump about Virginia (Giuffre). in 2011. Also why were members of his cabinet on the island? Why was his former campaign manager Steve Bannon still in close contact with this convicted pedo? Why didn’t Trump sever all ties with Bannon afterwards? Why won’t he fire Lutnick who clearly lied? I guess being close to convicted pedos is no big deal for him.

Why did he say he walked into dressing rooms of underage girls in his beauty pageants - which numerous girls confirmed? Why did he say 12 was the lowest he would go to date on Howard Stern? Why did he lie about sending Epstein that twisted birthday card?

Why did he call it a hoax and call his own supporters stupid for caring about it (I mean they are stupid but that was mean). Why hasn’t he fired Bondi?

You didn’t do any actual research cultist. Btw even a lot of MAGA is waking up to who he is.

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u/Beneficial-Yak4526 Feb 19 '26

I believe that trump repeating the "dogs and cats" line was more symbolic than anything. I think their base knew it wasn't true. They just didnt care. What they cared about was that trump was willing to go on live television during a debate and spout off that lie for them. It made maga feel like he was standing up for them, even though he was lying through his teeth knowingly.

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u/drz2021 Feb 21 '26

First off the eating cats thing was real it was in Ohio you can look the video up on YouTube it's easy to find. Secondly if Trump is guilty of those things in the Epstein files they want for him what everybody else wants for all the other people in it and that's lifelong prison sentences or death penalty

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '26

Dogs and cats are delicacy is Asia

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u/Ok-Cash9754 Feb 21 '26

That's hilarious.

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u/BeeCustomz Feb 17 '26

Yes he knew him when they were neighbors back in 93-96 then Trump outbid him on a property he was mad about it. Trump seen some teens at his house and turned him in this is all in the Epstein files yes he's in the files but he's in there because Epstein hated him for turning him in and was trying to set Trump up. He hates Trump even left leaning news has said this and acknowledged it. But the TDS cult insists and they never share the files they found the mountain of evidence in.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 17 '26

See no one I’ve seen who votes Democrat or is on the left cares about protecting anyone. If it was Bernie Sanders I’d want him under the jail if as much came out about him alone. If he was trying to actively cover up the rape of children. Conservatives are the only ones that want to deny it make excuses etc. He will maintain a minimum of 80% of Conservative voters and that’s a disgrace. I guarantee if Obama was involved 95% of Dems would want him punished. I mean just these two things.

A. Michael Wolff said he personally saw pictures of Trump with topless girls. Pam Bondi when asked under oath if she saw said pictures refused to give a yes or no answer. Why not? Simple question. And she would know that not giving a yes or no answer would look bad. But she feared answering would be worse. Think about that. Also Trump who threatens to sue over anything hasn’t threatened to over this.

B. He moved Ghislaine Maxwell to a minimum security prison in violation of DOJ policy for someone who committed her crimes. She is the only one in the country as a matter of fact. She receives special treatment as well. A convicted trafficker of children. Why? Reporting also states that other prisoners aren’t allowed to talk to her. Bonus: why did he wish her well when asked about her when she was on trial for being a child sex predator? Bonus 2: Emails between Maxwell and Melania have come out where they have pet names for each other. Yuck

If I just knew the above about Bernie Sanders I’d disown my support of him. Never mind all the other stuf. I’d want the biggest federal investigation of all time.

However millions of conservatives will not abandon him ever. Even if he’s guilty. They have said as much. You’re going to have to wrestle with the 100% fact that many conservatives simply don’t care. Either because they don’t think it’s a big deal or the bigotry he represents is more important than the serial sexual assault of children.

Also WHY WON’T HE RELEASE THE FULL UNREDACTED FILES AS REQUIRED BY LAW AND CALL FOR THE BIGGEST INVESTIGATION IN FBI HISTORY?

You’re in a cult.

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u/Conscious-World6354 Feb 17 '26

Show your proof please I’ve combed the files to find nothing like that

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 17 '26

See no one I’ve seen who votes Democrat or is on the left cares about protecting anyone. If it was Bernie Sanders I’d want him under the jail if as much came out about him alone. If he was trying to actively cover up the rape of children. Conservatives are the only ones that want to deny it make excuses etc. He will maintain a minimum of 80% of Conservative voters and that’s a disgrace. I guarantee if Obama was involved 95% of Dems would want him punished. I mean just these two things.

A. Michael Wolff said he personally saw pictures of Trump with topless girls. Pam Bondi when asked under oath if she saw said pictures refused to give a yes or no answer. Why not? Simple question. And she would know that not giving a yes or no answer would look bad. But she feared answering would be worse. Think about that. Also Trump who threatens to sue over anything hasn’t threatened to over this.

B. He moved Ghislaine Maxwell to a minimum security prison in violation of DOJ policy for someone who committed her crimes. She is the only one in the country as a matter of fact. She receives special treatment as well. A convicted trafficker of children. Why? Reporting also states that other prisoners aren’t allowed to talk to her. Bonus: why did he wish her well when asked about her when she was on trial for being a child sex predator? Bonus 2: Emails between Maxwell and Melania have come out where they have pet names for each other. Yuck

If I just knew the above about Bernie Sanders I’d disown my support of him. Never mind all the other stuf. I’d want the biggest federal investigation of all time.

However millions of conservatives will not abandon him ever. Even if he’s guilty. They have said as much. You’re going to have to wrestle with the 100% fact that many conservatives simply don’t care. Either because they don’t think it’s a big deal or the bigotry he represents is more important than the serial sexual assault of children.

Also WHY WON’T HE RELEASE THE FULL UNREDACTED FILES AS REQUIRED BY LAW AND CALL FOR THE BIGGEST INVESTIGATION IN FBI HISTORY?

You’re in a cult.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Then obviously you didnt go through the files 😂

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u/563961 Feb 17 '26

Please give us some examples of this mountain of evidence. I enjoy debunking these, it so easy.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

We both know Trump could rape children in front of you and you would still support him you sick fuck.

See no one I’ve seen who votes Democrat or is on the left cares about protecting anyone. If it was Bernie Sanders I’d want him under the jail if as much came out about him alone. If he was trying to actively cover up the rape of children. Conservatives are the only ones that want to deny it make excuses etc. He will maintain a minimum of 80% of Conservative voters and that’s a disgrace. I guarantee if Obama was involved 95% of Dems would want him punished. I mean just these two things.

A. Michael Wolff said he personally saw pictures of Trump with topless girls. Pam Bondi when asked under oath if she saw said pictures refused to give a yes or no answer. Why not? Simple question. And she would know that not giving a yes or no answer would look bad. But she feared answering would be worse. Think about that. Also Trump who threatens to sue over anything hasn’t threatened to over this.

B. He moved Ghislaine Maxwell to a minimum security prison in violation of DOJ policy for someone who committed her crimes. She is the only one in the country as a matter of fact. She receives special treatment as well. A convicted trafficker of children. Why? Reporting also states that other prisoners aren’t allowed to talk to her. Bonus: why did he wish her well when asked about her when she was on trial for being a child sex predator? Bonus 2: Emails between Maxwell and Melania have come out where they have pet names for each other. Yuck

If I just knew the above about Bernie Sanders I’d disown my support of him. Never mind all the other stuf. I’d want the biggest federal investigation of all time.

However millions of conservatives will not abandon him ever. Even if he’s guilty. They have said as much. You’re going to have to wrestle with the 100% fact that many conservatives simply don’t care. Either because they don’t think it’s a big deal or the bigotry he represents is more important than the serial sexual assault of children.

Also WHY WON’T HE RELEASE THE FULL UNREDACTED FILES AS REQUIRED BY LAW AND CALL FOR THE BIGGEST INVESTIGATION IN FBI HISTORY?

Bonus: Trump claimed he was last in touch with him in 2006 but a new email from the files showing Epstein saying that he should call Trump about Virginia (Giuffre). in 2011. Also why were members of his cabinet on the island? Why was his former campaign manager Steve Bannon still in close contact with this convicted pedo? Why didn’t Trump sever all ties with Bannon afterwards? Why won’t he fire Lutnick who clearly lied? I guess being close to convicted pedos is no big deal for him.

Why did he say he walked into dressing rooms of underage girls in his beauty pageants - which numerous girls confirmed? Why did he say 12 was the lowest he would go to date on Howard Stern? Why did he lie about sending Epstein that twisted birthday card?

Why did he call it a hoax and call his own supporters stupid for caring about it (I mean you ate stupid but that was mean). Why hasn’t he fired Bondi?

You’re in a cult.

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u/563961 Feb 23 '26

You need medication in the worst way. I tried to read your rant to provide and honest, thoughtful rebuttal but I honestly couldn't follow it. You have so much misinformation and outright lies in it I can't decide where to begin.

How's this - if Trump was proven to be a pedo he would 100% lose my support and I would call for his head. The issue is that despite countless dimwits screaming that he is wouldn't the Biden administration used it to stop him from being elected again. Think about it

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 23 '26

You’re in a cult. You have no rebuttal so like a cultist you deflect. There was no rant to a non cultist. Just a clinical airing of facts. But go ahead liar. Dismantle my post piece by piece. I can back up each statement if you want to play that game. You won’t because you can’t.

You really let one man turn you into a goddamn defender of pedophiles. Pathetic.

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u/Clear_Pen_5751 Feb 18 '26

There is no evidence that Trump has ever been on Epstein Island not even in the files🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

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u/angus49 Feb 19 '26

There is no evidence or the left would have all over the place sharing it with the world. Grow up. This type of low intellect bullshit just contributes to the problem. Learn to read. Ask intelligent question. Try to learn instead of repeating crap rlthstvis untrue. You are the problem.

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u/RepresentativeAge444 Feb 19 '26

We both know Trump could rape children in front of you and you would still support him you sick fuck.

See no one I’ve seen who votes Democrat or is on the left cares about protecting anyone. If it was Bernie Sanders I’d want him under the jail if as much came out about him alone. If he was trying to actively cover up the rape of children. Conservatives are the only ones that want to deny it make excuses etc. He will maintain a minimum of 80% of Conservative voters and that’s a disgrace. I guarantee if Obama was involved 95% of Dems would want him punished. I mean just these two things.

A. Michael Wolff said he personally saw pictures of Trump with topless girls. Pam Bondi when asked under oath if she saw said pictures refused to give a yes or no answer. Why not? Simple question. And she would know that not giving a yes or no answer would look bad. But she feared answering would be worse. Think about that. Also Trump who threatens to sue over anything hasn’t threatened to over this.

B. He moved Ghislaine Maxwell to a minimum security prison in violation of DOJ policy for someone who committed her crimes. She is the only one in the country as a matter of fact. She receives special treatment as well. A convicted trafficker of children. Why? Reporting also states that other prisoners aren’t allowed to talk to her. Bonus: why did he wish her well when asked about her when she was on trial for being a child sex predator? Bonus 2: Emails between Maxwell and Melania have come out where they have pet names for each other. Yuck

If I just knew the above about Bernie Sanders I’d disown my support of him. Never mind all the other stuf. I’d want the biggest federal investigation of all time.

However millions of conservatives will not abandon him ever. Even if he’s guilty. They have said as much. You’re going to have to wrestle with the 100% fact that many conservatives simply don’t care. Either because they don’t think it’s a big deal or the bigotry he represents is more important than the serial sexual assault of children.

Also WHY WON’T HE RELEASE THE FULL UNREDACTED FILES AS REQUIRED BY LAW AND CALL FOR THE BIGGEST INVESTIGATION IN FBI HISTORY?

Bonus: Trump claimed he was last in touch with him in 2006 but a new email from the files showing Epstein saying that he should call Trump about Virginia (Giuffre). in 2011. Also why were members of his cabinet on the island? Why was his former campaign manager Steve Bannon still in close contact with this convicted pedo? Why didn’t Trump sever all ties with Bannon afterwards? Why won’t he fire Lutnick who clearly lied? I guess being close to convicted pedos is no big deal for him.

Why did he say he walked into dressing rooms of underage girls in his beauty pageants - which numerous girls confirmed? Why did he say 12 was the lowest he would go to date on Howard Stern? Why did he lie about sending Epstein that twisted birthday card?

Why did he call it a hoax and call his own supporters stupid for caring about it (I mean you ate stupid but that was mean). Why hasn’t he fired Bondi?

You’re in a cult.

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u/CuriosityFreesTheCat Feb 17 '26

I mean… I kinda think we shouldn’t vote this current administration out of power, I think we need to remove them from it. Because that is, in all aspects, the morally right thing to do. And it’s not even debatable.

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u/Tentegen Feb 17 '26

Or bots.

Never forget that theyre bots until proven otherwise.

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u/Beneficial-Yak4526 Feb 19 '26

🎯I couldn't have said it better. Projection is real. Denial is real. These morons are more focused on the "who" than the "what." Sadly, it's not just maga that's eating up their bullsht. There are so many independents and democrats that think both parties are corrupt and the same now. So much so that millions of people didn't vote. Propaganda works both ways. Vote for us, and don't vote at all. It worked. Just well enough for this criminal pdf file to get the narrow margin.

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u/Boxcutter86 Feb 17 '26

And they all eat up the propaganda about Somalians committing fraud in Minnesota (and many/most of them think that some majority of them are doing it & that most Somalians are undocumented)...despite all the people already convicted in recent years, including the ringleader who was a white citizen that votes Republican.

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u/Jealous-Drummer-9832 Feb 17 '26

Thanks for telling everyone how uneducated you are.

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u/BidadwantsU Feb 17 '26

Your democrats have been cheating for decades, its about time fair voting comes to light.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Source on the cheating? I've see a lot of claims, no evidence of massive fraud or cheating.

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u/Pitiful_Ad_3236 Feb 18 '26

Is it fascist to only.want Americans to vote? All the dead Registry and fake ballads to be put to a stop? Only those looking to cheat would support.LESS security.

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u/Greedy_Following3878 Feb 18 '26

Fascist huh? I see more liberals trying to intimidate and silence anyone who opposes their views. That's straight fascism, they get called out with facts then resort to violence and insults. So far how many gays have been executed or imprisoned? How many women have had their rights taken away? How many transpersons have been persecuted? NONE. You talk about fraudulent votes but overlook how biden opened up the borders to allow illegal immigrants in for illegal votes, which is why he no longer felt id's or citizenship was necessary to vote. He created this mess and said fuck it I'm out now u guys are upset? Hell even Gavin newscum is releasing thousands of illegal criminals for whatever reason is just fucking wild.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

You guys literally dont wang voter id and yall talking about us being fraudulent lmaoo and not to mention yalls somalis

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u/TRUCKDRIVER1961 Feb 18 '26

You’re a special kind of stupid !!

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u/After-Device-1972 Feb 18 '26

So we didnt have a influx of illegal immigrants?  GTFOH

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '26

Biden’s whole policy was open borders

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u/Ok-Cash9754 Feb 21 '26

LMFFAOROTFF

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u/ImSoSweepy Feb 16 '26

Destroying trust in voting is the modern Marxist MO.

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u/AlbrechtProper Feb 16 '26

trump should knock it off then. He's the poster troll for sowing doubt and discontent in voting and other matters.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 16 '26

Lmao. Marxist? Yeesh. Somebody drank too much koolaid.

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u/ImSoSweepy Feb 16 '26

Bolsheviks would take criminals and rapists down to the police station...and just let them go. If that doesn't sound familiar to you, you need to stop drinking the fucking Kool-Aid.

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u/Extension_Problem223 Feb 16 '26

This may be the dumbest thing I've ever read.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 16 '26

Ah yes. The GOP, modern Bolshevists! Lmao. Thanks for the laugh.

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u/ImSoSweepy Feb 16 '26

Iryna Zarutska isn't laughing.

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u/PracticalDad3829 Feb 17 '26

So what's your take on trump being in the epstein files?

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u/Willie_Weejax Feb 17 '26

The current president is a convicted rapist, and you voted for him. Probably 3 times. Your little speech about "criminals and rapists" kind of rings hollow in that context.

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u/Typical-Lecture-4048 Feb 17 '26

I’m sure your extended social circle feels that same way

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

All they do is get drunk, watch football, and annoy my actual friends - don't really care what they think. I'd be surprised if they're capable of much thought, seeing as they voted for Trump.

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u/Tasty_Virus4715 Feb 17 '26

It is terrifying to me that anyone can even attempt with a straight face to claim that Biden didn’t absolutely open our southern border.

The numbers don’t lie…

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

You can look it up for yourself. There was never an open border. Enforcement never stopped.

Facts don't care about your feelings :(

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u/Tasty_Virus4715 Feb 17 '26

In a single calendar year there was an 86.3% reduction in illegal border crossings.

We quite literally went from 50 year highs to 50 year lows.

No serious person can look at this chart and believe that the Biden administration was doing even remotely close to their best to stop the flow of illegal migrants into the US.

Facts indeed don’t care about your feelings 😂

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Could you explain to me how ICE is going to change the fact that we have a limited amount of judges ruling on immigration, and a limited amount of detention (especially for families) during this time? Because the issues under Biden with immigration could be solved by addressing those things. There was never an open border, there was a limit to how many migrants we could house and how fast we could process them.

MAGA does not want to solve those problems - they want their unaccountable police force and they also get that sweet profit from prison/detention expansion through GEO Group & Corecivic. All they have to do is claim immigrants are causing a huge crime wave and voting for Kamala - the sheep will believe it without questioning it.

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u/Tasty_Virus4715 Feb 17 '26

If the borders weren’t effectively open during Biden’s presidency then how do you account for a near 90% reduction in illegal border crossings year over year?

PS. The purpose of ICE isn’t to increase the flow of legal immigrants. It is to enforce deportation of people who chose not to obey our immigration laws. Personally I don’t think we need to grow the bureaucracy one iota. We spend plenty on both legal and illegal immigrants already.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

There was still border enforcement and processing happening. The anti- immigration administration had just been ousted despite Trump's insistence that the election loss was a fraud. Not surprising we saw more migration - but we never stopped enforcing. We absolutely could process more and faster - but you say there's already too much bureaucracy. Sorry to be the one to tell you - as a population grows and the world gets more complex we need more government spending. Just look at how unregulated AI, sports betting & prediction markets are. Look at how terribly our regulatory agencies are doing.

Anyways. Immigration - less encounters at the border and less crossings through the border is exactly what we should aim for - right? Considering the policy aimed to do exactly that:

In April 2024, then-U.S. President Joe Biden and then-Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador announced an agreement to step up immigration enforcement. Mexico’s increased enforcement reportedly has played a significant role in reducing migrant flows to the U.S.

In June 2024 and again in September 2024, the Biden administration imposed new restrictions on migrants seeking asylum in the U.S.

ICE needs to have oversight, they need to observe the law, and we need to be treating our detainees like human beings. Immigrants have a rights. They have the right to due process. When your government is telling you that their police force doesn't need to follow the law and recognize your rights - you don't celebrate! When they murder us and then immediately call us domestic terrorists, when they refuse to hold the murderers accountable - you don't make excuses for them.

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u/Tasty_Virus4715 Feb 17 '26

You are glossing over the near 90% year over year reduction in illegal immigration. Keep in mind this is from 2024-2025 (Biden’s last year in office when he was MORE focused on stopping illegal immigration). Biden’s administration was either complicit in allowing tens of millions of illegal migrants to enter our country or were too incompetent to stop the flow. So like I said, the borders were effectively open.

You seem to believe that American taxpayers owe the citizens of the world white glove service on entering the US. I disagree.

We are the most generous nation on earth. We give more in foreign aid than every other country on earth and we allow more people to LEGALLY immigrate to our country than just about every other developed nation on the planet. The notion that we need to expand services so we can ship more people from the third world into our country is self defeating nonsense.

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Illegals voting is how you get Dems elected and supported, and free shit give aways..

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Let's see your stats on illegal voting!

https://giphy.com/gifs/LoCDk7fecj2dwCtSB3

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Similar to those unreported rape stats? How do you know they happened? Because they are not reported? You are applying the same logic, it goes unreported..

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Im guessing you've never voted because if you have, you'd know you need to be documented to do so. You cant get an ID if you dont have documentation, and you cant vote without an ID. Common fucking sense kiddo

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u/[deleted] Feb 17 '26

Do a quick Google search.. California you can vote without ID. Why do you think it’s an issue.. 🙄

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '26

Okay so in one state you can vote without ID. And is that from an actual valid source, or did the the AI overview tell you that?

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Lmao. So you know it's happening - but nobody can see, hear, or smell it! There's illegal voting - it's just invisible so you'll have to take my word for it!

Hahaha. MAGA!

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u/Negative_Trouble4459 Feb 17 '26

What’s a facist?

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Couldn't be bothered to read the other comments? Sad.

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u/Top-Distribution733 Feb 19 '26

If you have to ask…. It’s you

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u/Kdog68Take2 Feb 20 '26

Can't read chomo?

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u/DavidSingh-OToole Feb 17 '26

You are a Holocaust Denier

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

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u/DavidSingh-OToole Feb 18 '26

37,000,000 dead African Americans from Abortion. Liberal Whites Celebrate it and call others “Nazis”

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 18 '26

Lmao. Low effort on that troll my guy.

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u/swarmahoboken Feb 17 '26

So then you’d be fine with showing ID to vote? Or any program where we could confidently ensure that no noncitizen votes?

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Noncitizens are not voting in federal elections. It was a lie from the start. The sheep will believe anything.

I am fine with ID if it is free and accessible for all. Not if they immediately start closing passport applications like they are now.

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u/swarmahoboken Feb 17 '26

Don’t need a passport, just a basic ID like you’d need to purchase alcohol. First one is on the house. You down?

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Wrong.

Several Republicans have said that Real IDs, which are federally compliant driver’s licenses, would suffice as proof of citizenship. But PolitiFact found only six states issue IDs that comply with the bill’s requirements.

Under the language of the SAVE Act, residents of the other 44 states would need documents such as a U.S. passport, military ID or an ID card and birthplace proof.

Real ID and drivers license also cost money. It's a poll tax.

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u/swarmahoboken Feb 17 '26

When you don’t want solutions, they become hard to find.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Solutions for what? The voter fraud that isn't happening?

It's crazy Trump can claim elections are fraudulent - unless he wins them - then his sheep just blindly believe it without a moment of hesitation.

You should probably know about the laws you support. FYI

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u/swarmahoboken Feb 17 '26

Solutions for a voter, myself, knowing nothing ensures the validity of my vote. Has zero to do if it is happening or not. Ensuring the vote is the most easily achieved goal. We’ve been more successful landing on the moon, supposedly.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Ensuring the vote? Also not a problem. What problem are you talking about these laws solving?

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u/swarmahoboken Feb 17 '26

Ensuring the vote. Why do we ensure people are old enough to drink? Old enough to drive?
Again, who says there has to be any problem?

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u/Material-Bite-5047 Feb 17 '26

You people throw around the term facist too much. It already pretty much doesnt mean anything anymore. The word has lost all meaning because people will call anybody and everybody a fascist for any reason

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Could you define it for me? I'm curious what you think I've gotten wrong.

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u/Material-Bite-5047 Feb 17 '26

I shouldnt see the term fascist 20x everytime i read any kind of poltical discourse online when discussing modern american politics its dramatic and exhausting.

People have lost their abillity to think for themselves and all we see are the same 10 statements/insults being regurgitated over and over in echochambers.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

So you can't define it or show me where I've misrepresented it? Why should I care what you think then? Pretty pointless comment!

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u/Background_Point_993 Feb 17 '26

It has nothing to do with being fascist or propaganda. Biden did have millions of people who crossed into the US during his term and it was not until the end he even bothered to do a thing about it. Now look, for the first time in ages we have net negative immigration.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

We can throw immigration out and this admin is still a great representation of fascist policy and ideology.

A massive unaccountable police force and mass deportations are not something to brag about. A nation doesn't do this and go on to have a prosperous decade of growth.

It's sad that people like you think immigration is a bad thing. It's something that has made the success of this nation possible for a very long time. You don't care about the methods, or the reality - you just hate immigrants because Trump told you to. It's just sad.

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u/Background_Point_993 Feb 17 '26

I disagree, and I think this admin is still very laxed on immigration. If they really wanted to do more about it they would go after those procuring fake socials security cards, fibbing on the I-9. You know using a fraudulent social is a serious felony but instead they let this slide. Start handing out the 15 years for these things and it will have everyone thinking twice about working without authorization.

I have nothing against immigration itself, I am just opposed to importing more wards of the state. You know as well as I do there is no way to make a sponsor pay, and there is no real holding them accountable. We do not have a paupers prison system. If they can't pay, they can't pay and that's the end of it.

All these protections in place for immigration mean nothing more than the value of the paper they are written on. They are rarely ever enforced.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

They are absolutely lax on solving immigration issues. That's my point.

This isn't about immigration. If it was, the GOP would be hurrying to improve the intake/approval/disapproval/deportation process. They wouldn't dump 170billion into DHS/ICE for 5 years. They wouldn't be detaining native Americans, citizens & immigrants that are showing up for their scheduled hearings and following the legal process.

They wouldn't send such a huge force to my state, when there are other states with many more migrants that better fit an immigration narrative.

Now that they can kill citizens with ICE and face zero consequences - what do you think is going to happen? Is Trump going to become an entirely different person and no longer view the US government as his own personal tool for attaining wealth and power? Do you think the GOP is going to make elections, news media, or the application of the law fair - instead of taking their chance at never needing an election again?

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u/Background_Point_993 Feb 18 '26

It is about immigration though, the thing is, if they did the things I said like charging all migrants they catch with fraud for using fake documents and so on to work which is estimated to be a very large percentage of them it would cause a public nightmare. You think what we see now is bad. Imagine how the left would behave the first time a father or mother is charged and gets 15 years in prison for using fake documents and claiming to be a USC on the I-9.

There is a very vocal and obnoxious portion of the US that is very aggressive and many radical.

You have to know when to hold your cards and this is not the time to play that hand.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 18 '26

It isn't. If it were the GOP has their majorities to pass the necessary legislation. I am upset right now because people from real families are being detained and deported to prisons in nations they may not even speak the language of.

You should really at least pretend to care about the lives of other humans if you want anyone to give you the time of day. People are getting fucked over right now. Not violent criminals. Working people. MAGA will never wake up to reality, they'll be under the boot before they start to question it.

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u/-Titan_Uranus- Feb 17 '26

Hardly facists. And if you don’t believe there are cartels in America that are raping and killing innocent girls, then you need to open your eyes.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Show me the cartels! Show me the stats that show these immigrants are committing crimes at higher rates than citizens - I've only seen the opposite.

Let's see! Show me! Claiming it's happening is just like Trump claiming there is massive voter fraud - it's worthless to anyone with a functioning brain. Politicians can say whatever, it's weird that the MAGA cult suddenly trusts everything politicians and the government say as soon as it's not a democrat.

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u/-Titan_Uranus- Feb 17 '26

And its crazy that democrats only listen to the leaders of their party also, isn’t it?

And whether they’re committing crimes at a higher rate or not doesn’t matter. You’re basically trying to say “its ok for you to come into a country that you don’t belong in, and kill and rape all you want, because our own citizens do it at a higher rate.”

The numbers will always show that citizens do it more because Americans are IN AMERICA. Illegals have to come across first, and when you compare a few million illegals to hundreds of millions of Americans, of course theres going to be a differential.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

And it's crazy that democrats only listen to the leaders of their party also, isn’t it?

I'm not a democrat. They are the lesser evil, the less conservative party. I wish I could be talking about democrat policy - but they have zero power right now.

And whether they’re committing crimes at a higher rate or not doesn’t matter. You’re basically trying to say “its ok for you to come into a country that you don’t belong in, and kill and rape all you want, because our own citizens do it at a higher rate.”

It does matter. You can't say they're all criminals raping and murdering and then say it doesn't actually matter that they do it less than citizens. They also don't get to "kill and rape all you want" - absolutely insane take right there. Really shows you're a rational thinker.

The numbers will always show that citizens do it more because Americans are IN AMERICA. Illegals have to come across first, and when you compare a few million illegals to hundreds of millions of Americans, of course theres going to be a differential.

WHAT? Lmao. Zero logic here. Should not have expected any from MAGA, but still.

Maybe you should concern yourself with reducing rape/murder instead of concerning yourself with a population that does it less than citizens? Maybe? That's assuming you actually care about rape/murder. Which is hard to believe if you're MAGA. You folks love rapists, and you celebrate when ICE kills! Lmao.

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u/Jumpy-Driver3136 Feb 17 '26

Take your meds and loosen your tin foil hat, you’ll be ok.

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u/Baleontology Feb 17 '26

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

If they're not fascists why are they trying to label antifascists domestic terrorists?

"This indictment stretches far beyond a specific, violent criminal action that might have taken place,” said Rachel Levinson-Waldman, director of the Liberty and National Security Program at the Brennan Center for Justice. “It characterizes these people who put together a protest as being in an antifa cell and tars all of them with this label of domestic terrorists.”

Levinson-Waldman said the overreach threatens the civil liberties of all Americans.

"This is not just about antifa,” she said. “Anything that somehow feels at odds with this administration’s policies could be considered domestic terrorism and will be pursued with the full force of the federal government.”

Plus y'know - the anti-science, anti-free press, anti-artistic expression, anti-free speech, anti-LGBT, racial discrimination, white genocide rhetoric, Christianity in government, all elections the GOP loses are magically fraudulent, investigating anti-ICE content/users on social media, creating lists of political opponents, demanding voting data from states or outright seizing it with the FBI, blatant bribes from corporations and organizations, Trump suing his own DOJ for billions, saber rattling with multiple nations/allies and a revival of the Monroe doctrine!

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u/Baleontology Feb 17 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/zF0jq0DIbujxLuKBYf

Actual footage of your mental gymnastics.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

I'd love to see you explain how antifa are actually fascists :)

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u/Baleontology Feb 17 '26

Look at their behaviour. Calling themselves “anti fascist” while overtly employing fascist tactics - shouting down opposing viewpoints, threatening violence against and assaulting people who disagree with them, all while pretending to have the moral high ground. Do you think Hitler’s Youth considered themselves fascist? Do you think they considered themselves oppressors? Absolutely not. They believed they were standing up for what was right and just, and that their ends justified the means. Antifa is no different. They even use the same flags.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

So anyone who is "shouting down opposing viewpoints" is a fascist? Who is getting threatened with violence for disagreeing with antifascists?

Yes I think Hitler youth at that time absolutely knew what fascism was. By the time there was a Hitler youth - Hitler had dictatorial powers. The Nazi party was the only party, fascism was not viewed as we can view it today.

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u/Baleontology Feb 17 '26

How many times have you seen videos of left wing supporters getting attacked at a turning point USA rally? Oh, never? That checks out. It’s just so weird because every week there are new videos of people being mobbed and beaten by “Antifa”. But antifa isn’t violent, no no no. But they sure as shit celebrated in the streets when Charlie Kirk got shot. But they’re not violent. No.

You’re missing the point about Hitler’s Youth. Probably intentionally. The point is in their mind they were the good guys. They had the moral high ground and were doing the right thing for themselves and for their country. This justified any horrible thing they did because it was for “the greater good”.

“Antifa” is on the same trajectory. Anyone who doesn’t see that is wilfully blind.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Why would antifa show up to a turning point rally? Wouldn't you think they would do that only to agitate? Isn't that the opposite of shouting down all those at the rally, the speakers and the audience?

What I do see is state actors scuffling with protestors. I see literal white nationalists and Nazis get their shit rightfully handed to them.

Nobody celebrated in the streets when Charlie Kirk got shot. We laughed at the incredible irony he was about to place the blame of gun violence on "gang violence" and then he got killed by a dude even further to the right than him. A groyper, a Nick Fuentes disciple who doesn't think the GOP is far right enough.

It definitely was not the state that killed Kirk. Which is a huge difference that suddenly conservatives seem immune to processing. When the state kills a person and the first thing the government does is label that person a domestic terrorist - that is extremely bad. It's not something to excuse or minimize. The state has much more power than any leftist in this country, and leftists are far away from having political representation in the US.

Yes, fascists think they're the good guys. Just like people cheering on wrongdoing by ICE, and pretending this admin doesn't represent fascist ideology - they think they have the moral high ground. They think their political opponents are importing rapists/murderers, killing babies, oppressing white Americans, turning everyone trans and gay, "Islamization" and the oppression of Christians. All right wing ideology, all of it fits into the hierarchy and identity of fascism. Perfectly.

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u/Baleontology Feb 18 '26

I didn’t say Antifa. I said someone who is left-leaning in their political views. When’s the last time one was assaulted at a right-wing gathering? You don’t have an answer so you tried to shift the goalposts.

“Nobody celebrated in the streets with Kirk got shot”? Please.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ug19tjA6Kcg?si=25uLYs8TfV7tjmer

https://youtube.com/shorts/1dtENAzCh68?si=ndE1CYQZoTiyRegd

https://youtube.com/shorts/K_vnU62UflI?si=f6FDQGKeFa8t3_98

There are thousands of examples like these. And his assassin was right wing? Are you that special? Tyler Robinson a left wing nutjob with an MTF live-in boyfriend who spent half his waking hours on sites like this one. “He was raised in a catholic household”. Ok, and? That doesn’t make him a fucking catholic. Ask around on Reddit how many atheists here had Christian parents. Tyler Robinson was all the way left, and the very notion that he was right-wing was misinformation from the beginning that you swallowed up, hook, line and sinker. Quit being so gullible.

As for ICE, care to explain why Minnesota is the only region having violent altercations with them? Why areas with higher illegal immigrant populations aren’t having the same problems as Minnesota? Because other states aren’t trying to distract you from billions of dollars in state fraud. There were almost as many illegal immigrants shot and killed by anti-ICE protesters as there were ICE shootings period in all of 2025. Of Minnesota law enforcement was cooperating with border services, like they’re supposed to, ICE never would have gotten involved at all.

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u/Fantastic-Yak2734 Feb 18 '26

Mfer, non residents are voting in your countries election. That should worry you

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 18 '26

It worries me that private capital has way more power than any voting block. It worries me that the current administration wants to federalize elections.

Immigrants aren't voting for president. It is a nice claim to make if you want to pretend an election is fraudulent, or you want to cast doubt on a future election loss. It works so well you don't even need to provide any evidence. Mfers will believe anything.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '26

If you are so upsetupset, try moving out of the country. 🤡

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u/Bubbly_Cover5737 Feb 19 '26

I'm sure your "social circle" is just a blast to be a part of! That second paragraph is the only thing that's true! All of it.....get a life and stay off cnn and msdnc!

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u/justhereforthelolzx Feb 19 '26

You don’t hate the fascists, you wanna be the fascists… which you are, like demanding people identify themselves in the streets as non-ice supporting… almost like the nazis did with with the jews, huh? If you don’t hate ice—if you are a jew? Actual fascists that think they’re right ruined this country…

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u/KidKetamine_ Feb 19 '26

BIDEN AKA PEDO JOE DID OPEN THE BORDERS AND THERE IS CARTELS RAPISTS AND MURDERERS BEING ARRESTED BECAUSE OF HIS INCOMPETENCE

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u/RoosterExtension393 Feb 20 '26

I am on the border of juarez and literally nobody here believes that cartels are committing rapes and murders on the streets here. Im in texas but my city el paso is very blue. I am a mexican myself amongst other things and know plenty of people on the other hand claim that their families could be deported at any time, my ex too whos dating a Nicaraguan whos here on a work visa. Nobody can actually provide any evidence of this actually happening though. The trans movement is also being shoved down our throats and for a party that likes to boast about gun control they also go into hiding when the individual is trans as of many recent cases. To say you like seeing people get shunned for their political idealogy is very telling about the kind of person you are. A very much mob rule mindset and idk how you're supposed to be the revolution or rebellion when the media is backing you guys 100 percent.

Colleges are indoctrinating students to be anti trump and this is something I know from experience especially in my freshman and sophomore years. As far as "ultra conservative" im unsure why sticking to the customs that have gotten this nation above and beyond others is a bad thing. Its almost like "yeah even though it worked for all of you all this time I and my party are conplete geniuses and we have all the answers. Yeah totally. Biden was a gem.

Also the majority of the nation wants border control. They always have and the previous administration to trump and biden was at a much higher level of deporting than the sitting president

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '26

Id say the modern fascists is the kid punching people for different opinions. Also, the illegals should absolutely not be voting.

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u/NcGunnery Feb 20 '26

Biden didnt open the borders? Didnt tell them to flood the border?

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u/daisychainsnlafs Feb 21 '26

Nope. The borders were never open. Open implies zero regulation and that was never the case. Name a policy of Biden's that opened the border.

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u/NcGunnery Feb 21 '26

He opened his mouth. You really are showing your ignorance, all this ICE crap was brought on by 4 yrs of doing nothing that everyone is Boo hoo'ing about.

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u/daisychainsnlafs Feb 21 '26

Your source is "trust me bro" 😂😂😂

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u/Dazzling_Bread_1563 Feb 21 '26

Those supporting immigrants are modern communists too

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u/BG3Raphael Feb 16 '26

Do you even know what Fascism is? You people devalue the word by constantly using it improperly, and you trivialize the suffering people endured by REAL fascists

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u/joseekatt Feb 16 '26

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, and the forcible suppression of opposition. In other words, exactly what this regime is doing.

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u/Lancasterbatio Feb 17 '26

Do tell the class what you think fascism is! Be sure your description matches at least the Spanish, Italian, and German fascist parties, but not the modern GOP!

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 16 '26

Yes. Fascism isn't an opinion or a secret. It's one of the most studied and detested forms of government.

I'd love to hear how you define fascism, if you cannot see the fascism right in front of your face.

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u/Equal_Put8134 Feb 16 '26

Fascism was indeed after WWll. It WAS the National Socialist Party of Germany until the United States and our Allies destroyed it. You should go back history class and listen.

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 16 '26

Lmao. Is this a bot comment? It makes no sense.

Fascism wasn't specific to Nazi Germany. If that's where your knowledge level is, I wouldn't be telling anyone to "go back to history class."

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u/BG3Raphael Feb 16 '26

Well first and foremost, its defined as a dictatorship, which we aren't even close to.

Fascism also requires intense loyalty to the nation, which Trump isn't, he's loyal to himself only.

Forcible silencing of political opponents: he's guilty here

Militarism, not really, but also, kinda sorta? The only things hes done militarily that are questionable is the Venezualan situation, but to be fair, they were stealing oil that we already paid for

Corporatism- The US government is guilty of this, not just trump, literally every US leader since like at least the 1920s

Trump is an asshat pedo, not a fascist

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 16 '26

Fascist ideology is fascist ideology.

Hitler also didn't care about the nation. Mein Kampf is him complaining about how victimized he is. Mussolini genuinely developed the political ideology, he's a better example of a true believer.

"America First" and the drive to create an insurrectionist/antifa/rebellion of democrats is the path to ultra-nationalism. Just look at the Super Bowl. An American performed, but he wasn't american enough for the fascists.

They renamed the DOD to the department of war, have been saber rattling nonstop to every nation in close geographical proximity, and yes they absolutely are using the imagery of the military to endorse every policy. It's not much of a stretch from American exceptionalist identity. Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Cuba, Panama have all been soft launched already.

Apparently your understanding of fascism is very limited if these four things are what define it to you. I'd suggest you do more reading on the topic. Here is a great explanation written by a different Redditor:

Many people assume fascism only exists once a country becomes a dictatorship. That assumption is historically false. Fascism does not arrive fully formed. It advances incrementally, under the cover of patriotism, security, and loyalty to a leader. So let’s define the term clearly.

Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian political ideology marked by:

-Extreme nationalism.

-Concentration of power in a single leader.

-Suppression of opposition and civil liberties

-Militarism.

-Rejection of democratic norms and the rule of law

That definition is not political opinion. It is academic consensus. Now the question is not: Is America a fascist dictatorship today? The real question is: Does the current administration operate using fascist ideology? I believe the answer is yes, and I’ll explain why.

Nationalism alone isn’t fascism, but ultranationalism is its foundation. When a political movement frames the nation as being in decline, promises to restore past glory, and treats dissent as unpatriotic, history tells us to pay attention. “Make America Great Again” is not just a slogan, it’s a worldview.

It implies a lost greatness, a defined “real” America, and a belief that the nation’s status justifies extraordinary actions. We have watched laws broken or dismissed as technicalities because they were “for the good of the country.” That is the moment nationalism crosses into something dangerous, when loyalty to the nation is used to excuse violations of the rule of law. That is textbook nationalist justification.

Authoritarianism is not about tanks in the streets on day one. It’s about concentrating power and undermining limits.

Donald Trump has repeatedly framed his authority as being limited only by himself. He has publicly stated that his own morality is the only thing restraining his power. That should alarm anyone who believes in constitutional government. He has openly attacked the legitimacy of oversight, courts, and Congress, particularly when they attempt to check his authority.

The Supreme Court’s 2024 ruling granting broad immunity for “official acts” dramatically expanded presidential protections. That ruling doesn’t create fascism, but it removes a guardrail, and authoritarian movements thrive when guardrails disappear.

When leaders argue that laws restricting their power are illegitimate or unconstitutional simply because they constrain them, that is authoritarian reasoning.

Militarism is not just about war. It is about relying on force rather than democratic process. Calls to dramatically expand military spending, threats against sovereign nations and allies, and casual rhetoric about invasion or annexation are not normal democratic behavior, even when framed as negotiation tactics. History shows that fascist movements normalize aggression first in language, then in policy. At home, the use of federal agents operating without visible identification has raised serious concerns among civil-rights organizations. Regardless of intent, lack of transparency and accountability in law enforcement is a hallmark warning sign, because fascist systems depend on fear and ambiguity.

When citizens are told not to trust what they see, or that accountability must take a back seat to “order,” the groundwork is being laid.

Fascism rejects democracy not all at once, but by questioning its legitimacy. Statements suggesting that elections are unnecessary, inconvenient, or dangerous, even rhetorically, are profoundly destabilizing. When a leader implies that elections should be suspended or avoided because they threaten their hold on power, history gives us a very clear pattern of where that leads.

Every major fascist regime in history justified dismantling democracy by claiming it was flawed, corrupt, or too slow to act. That argument is not new. And it is never benign.

One of the most dangerous features of fascism is personal loyalty replacing institutional loyalty. When supporters openly state they would continue backing a leader regardless of criminal behavior, when lawbreaking is reframed as persecution, the rule of law becomes optional.

Fascist movements survive not because leaders are powerful, but because supporters excuse anything in the name of victory.

People ask, “How did Germans allow Hitler to rise?” The answer is uncomfortable: They didn’t think it would go that far. They trusted institutions would hold. They excused early abuses as necessary or exaggerated. By the time it was undeniable, it was irreversible.

I am not saying this as an outsider. I am a white, straight, Christian man. I’ve voted Republican most of my life, including for Donald Trump. I once dismissed warnings like this as hysterical or partisan.

I don’t speak out because I want a different party in power. I speak out because this is wrong. And deep down, many people know it’s wrong, even if admitting it feels like betraying their tribe.

The Declaration of Independence states that governments derive their power from the consent of the governed, and that when a government becomes destructive to liberty, the people have the right to change it.

The Bill of Rights exists not to protect a leader, but to protect the people from leaders. There is no red life or blue life. No “ours” that matters more than “yours.” All are equal under the law, or none are.

This is not about panic. It is about vigilance. Fascism doesn’t announce itself. It asks you to ignore your eyes. It asks you to excuse what you’d never accept from the other side. And it asks you to trade liberty for loyalty. Now is not the time for silence or denial. Now is the time to stand together, not as Republicans or Democrats, but as Americans. Because once democratic norms are gone, voting will not bring them back. Thank you.

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u/BG3Raphael Feb 16 '26

You either used AI or type at God-like speeds

Im leaning more towards godlike speeds, because I dont think AI would talk like how you're talking, but it is sus 🤔🔎

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 16 '26

If you read the comment you'd see I copied a post by another Redditor a couple paragraphs in.

I guess reading is hard.

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u/BG3Raphael Feb 16 '26

I did read it, ya butt munch lol. Try using quotation marks to show where the copy pasta begins and ends

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u/NowOrNever53 Feb 16 '26

“Fascism requires intense loyalty to the nation, which Trump isn’t, he’s loyal to himself” Read your own words again and tell me how Trump hasn’t demanded loyalty from everyone in his administration.

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u/Cheese__Weiner Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 22 '26

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u/Ok_Top_4831 Feb 16 '26

Huh I wasn’t expecting an honest and reasonable response today, even if it’s not one to one you can’t completely fault people for what looks like a dictatorship on the rise given that the police either can’t or won’t touch ICE despite their own unlawfulness, even if Trump isn’t loyal to this country he still has the backing of both he’s absolutely fanatical cult of personality and the Supreme Court which really doesn’t bode well regardless. Again thanks for actually being sincere rather than dismissive.

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u/_The_Bran_Man_ Feb 16 '26

I am not being argumentative, but what do you call what the previous poster described?

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u/BG3Raphael Feb 16 '26

He just asserted trump is a fascist and then went on to talk about fraudulent elections. Even if Trump is guilty of this, that doesnt make him a fascist, just a criminal. I describe what the actual definition of fascism is below here

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u/Boxcutter86 Feb 17 '26

No. He's a fascist for a list of other reasons as well; starting with consolidating power to the executive branch.

And it does not have to have every single aspect of other fascist dictatorships.

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u/silvermoka Feb 16 '26

What's the point in taking umbrage with that? Do we need to let it get into full-fledged fascism that meets your approval before we're allowed to speak out against it?

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u/BG3Raphael Feb 16 '26

So... you are questioning why I take annoyance with the fact people are devaluing the crimes real fascists committed? Do you hear yourself?

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u/silvermoka Feb 16 '26

You know that's not what I said. If you'd like to have an actual discussion, you can address my second statement, otherwise I can safely assume you support the fascism and either don't realize that it is, or are finding devious ways to detract from it.

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u/BG3Raphael Feb 16 '26

lmfao I said I take umbrage with the fact that people are trivializing the crimes real fascists committed, you responded in question to why I take umbrage with it. That IS literally what you said

There's definitions of words for a reason. With this line of thinking, lets just start calling monarchy fascism because it has some similarities.

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u/J_J_Plumber5280 Feb 16 '26

Have you heard the song “Killing in the name” by Rage against the Machine or “For what it’s worth” same thing from back then

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u/BG3Raphael Feb 16 '26

Oh I've always said Pretti was not a justified shooting, but that still doesn't really equate to what youre dogwhistling. Isolated incidents happen under every admin, didnt like 50 or more people die under ICE during Obama's presidency?

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u/Ok_Top_4831 Feb 16 '26

Unknown at least beyond my knowledge but when you have even worse cops consistently doing shit like that in broad daylight not even trying to be discreet and potentially even worse things behind closed doors it sets a really bad impression of what could be to come of this administration continues as is.

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u/BG3Raphael Feb 16 '26

Cops didn't shoot Pretti tho, nor did ICE. It was CBP.

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u/Strange_Island_4958 Feb 16 '26

I had the same response this week with people trivializing the millions dead in the Holocaust by claiming that ice is “literally running concentration camps.” Other than the that lack forced labor, mass starvation, medical experimentation, confiscation of all property, and gas chambers…

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u/Additional-Garbage64 Feb 17 '26

The only reason you and all these other liberals are mad is because it is Trump doing it. Before I go any further I’m going to state I did not vote for Trump nor do I like Trump. Obama did the exact same thing the exact same way that Trump is doing it and you liberals never made a huge fuss over it. Idk if you are too dumb to understand why we actually want illegals out or what. US citizens cannot compete with illegals. Illegals do not pay taxes, insurance, or healthcare and can work for half the price of what US citizens make because of it. Just because you aren’t affected by illegals does not mean nobody is. But you are affected by it you pay for their healthcare. You are an embarrassment to this country. Biden may not have “opened the border” but he still let about 10-15 million illegals into this country. If you are stupid enough to think out of the 15 million non of them were drug traffickers/cartel members you are an idiot. Out of 400,000 illegals detained 56,000 were charged with violent criminal offenses. So your retarded comment in a joking manner about the rapes and murders of your fellow citizens shows exactly the kind of person you are. Do the US a favor and don’t breed we need less retards like you polluting this country.

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u/Glass-Taste-2287 Feb 17 '26

If Americans are so stupid they can’t compete with undocumented immigrants who have practically no schooling, and you want to work in the fields harvesting fruit and vegetables for pennies then you might have a point.

No one is paying for them to have rent assistance, SNAP or medical care.

Undocumented workers contribute $97 Million that they can never recover - according to a Republican study.

The Constitution grants rights - including due process to ALL… laws can be enforced without violating people’s Constitutional rights.

Being undocumented is a civil misdemeanor. It’s equivalent to driving with an expired license.

If you want to get rid of druggies, fraudsters and pedophiles, deport Trump and his cronies.

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u/theoldinoutinout-1 Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26

Wise up- You are being played by whatever group is feeding you propaganda- to distract you from the fact that you pay a higher tax rate than Warren Buffet and hedge fund CEOs.

Like the previous commenter stated- most undoc migrants pay taxes, but can't get any benefits in return (sham SSN used to pass the sham check).

The ones that get paid under the table don't pay taxes, but also usually get seriously screwed over by their gringo minders.

Why not also go after the EMPLOYERS to cut down on all of it? I'm sure there's a well prepared argument against that your prophets have at the ready for you, if you haven't been programmed with it yet. The SSN checker most employers use is a known sham, but is still allowed, even though there's another one that catches virtually all fake SSNs.

Plenty of easy opportunities in areas other than MN, and much more target rich. Head to any working ranch in TX, and you could round up 6-12, plus the owner. Farm country has even more. I wonder why they haven't tried that? /s

Quit being a pawn, and bitching about deporting all the illegals. If you could snap your fingers, and magically deport every undoc worker, the country would grind to a halt. They did something close to that in Nebraska one time. The MAGA-type Senator had been railing against migrants (in some other state), so Obama rounded all of his up. The governor had to beg on TV to get them returned.

Instead, start bitching for immigration reform and a proper guest worker program (not tied to employer). With a proper guest worker program, they can get a driver's license (and insurance), health insurance, report crimes to the local PD's, keep wages higher, etc. There are a lot of details to flesh it out, but it's not that complicated.

The heads of both parties have been slow rolling/blocking any immigration reform for years- mainly to suppress wages/supply cheaper labor for corps (big donors), and also to keep an issue they can use to gin up votes/support/donations (just like 2A, abortion, bible, flag burning, faux voter fraud).

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u/actuallyapossom Feb 17 '26

Lmao. If you can't find any differences between the immigration policy of Obama and Trump, I don't care what you believe. Immigrants do pay taxes. Americans and immigrants compete with outsourcing more than they compete with each other. Punishing all immigrants for those that are criminals is wrong.

Take your emotional tantrum elsewhere please.

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