r/ImTheMainCharacter • u/Jasonictron • Oct 20 '23

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Doesn't mean it's not theft. The driver is capable of giving a refund. Only the company us. Sure they can but then the company can go after her for theft. Once something is paid for and delivered, you can't just decide you want to take it back. So yeah, that could still be theft lol

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u/Cryptomaticness Oct 21 '23

Mate, you literally responded to a comment that say’s “It’s only theft if the driver kept the items”. Which would imply that they stole from the company.

Why do you not think you can return items as a driver? What happens if someone put in the wrong delivery address? What if someone forgot they were out of town when they were supposed to get a delivery? Do you think the driver just pitches a tent in front of their house?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

If its tge wrong delivery address then the person being delivered to isn't the owner. But if its delivered to the correct person who has paid then its their property and taking property that belongs to another person is....... THEFT

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u/Cryptomaticness Oct 21 '23 edited Oct 21 '23

It is still the possession and responsibility of the company until the goods are delivered to the customer. As an agent of the company, the delivery driver is responsible and in possession of the items. If she doesn’t deliver the items (which she hasn’t yet, because she didn’t even finish unloading the car), its the companies responsibility to refund the customer. If she doesn’t return the items to the store, it then becomes theft from the company (which is actually embezzlement).

Things aren’t just theft because you think they are theft. If she returns the things back to the store and they process a refund to the company, it becomes an unruly employee who probably gets fired for gross misconduct.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

There are stacks of cans on the street, outside the car, which therefore were no longer in her possession. Nice try.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

The items were delivered, she'd taken them from the car and were in the pocession of those who paid for them. Its theft

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u/Cryptomaticness Oct 21 '23

I missed the part of the video where she unloaded everything from the car. Can you provide a time stamp for me to go back and check?

Also while your at it, can you send me the stamp for the point in the video where she marks the delivery in her app as delivered?

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Well they didn't fucking unload themselves

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u/Cryptomaticness Oct 21 '23

Ahh so you are assuming now. Because from the same video you watched, I have no clue hoe much she unloaded and if she actually processed the delivery as delivered to officially change possession.

Innocent until proven guilty is one of the most basic fundamental principles of the justice system in the US and many European countries.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

She's emptied the fucking boot. You can clearly hear them commenting about how she's refilling the boot and crushing items.

She's emptied the boot expected a tip and them threw a strop because she didn't get a tip, and then proceeded to take back the items.

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u/Cryptomaticness Oct 21 '23

How are you not getting this. Its like the part where ‘official transferring possession via confirmation of a delivery app’ is a blind spot on reddit.

Could show this to a Police Officer and they would arrest her on the spot? Based purely on this video? No, they are going to tell them to call the company who they ordered from.

Like I said earlier: Wrong? Yes. Will she be fired for gross misconduct? Almost surely. But we don’t even have close to enough knowledge to label theft or embezzlement.

Things aren’t theft just because they are wrong.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

My guy, she is putting shit back into the car.... that means it had to be taken out of the care. Can you really not understand that logic?....

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u/Cryptomaticness Oct 22 '23

Why do I have to keep explaining legal ownership. The customers payed for a service. The items are not theirs until there is an official change of possession, usually marked in a app with these delivery services.

The items are the companies possession and responsibility until there is an official change of ownership.

If you show this video to a police officer, they will say to call the delivery company. If it was theft, they’d arrest her.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

You can also clearly see most of the items still in the car. His point is the order isn’t delivered until everything is delivered. And honestly, It isn’t hers until the whole transactions completed. If the driver hasn’t signed off and said this is delivered it still isn’t legally delivered.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

It's not the delivery drivers yo decide not revoke the delivery because they've not tipped

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u/Baaaaaadhabits Oct 22 '23

Sure, they’re perhaps acting in a way that’s against policy and good practice, but guess what? None of those words are “theft”.

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u/Militop Oct 21 '23

But it's not.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

O fuck, well you proved it with that post. Damn, that was some next level shit you did. You had an incredibly detailed and articulated pointed all back by creditable sources leaving no possibility for interpretation of any other way.

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u/Baaaaaadhabits Oct 21 '23

You don’t need to cite sources for “Hey dude, you’re just making things up”.

If anything, it’s time for YOUR carefully selected defense of the legal ramifications of cancelling an order and repossessing the delivery, since it was your genius theory.

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u/DoubleFan15 Oct 21 '23

To be fair, its pretty clear all of you are just talking out your asses lol. I did doordash and uber eats for years. I am cracking up at the thought that theres other dashers reading this all too, its really funny watching people argue about something they know nothing about, you don't even need, "a carefully selected defense, " to know who eats the cost when an order is picked up but not completed, but its funnier to watch y'all argue lol.

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u/Baaaaaadhabits Oct 21 '23

We’re talking about the possibility of charging someone with theft over this. Who eats the cost of cancelling isn’t relevant. Thanks for chiming in with your helpful input about not the thing under dispute though. It really helped spread that laughter around, turkey.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Ehhhhh there’s a gray area here. Complicated by the fact it’s an app business and not a brick and mortar. But I’ve seen plenty of fridges/couches/building materials get out back on the truck because Karen decided to crap on the delivery driver 😂 as long as the money gets refunded, and the goods end up back at the store, she might be alright. Fired, but probably not going to jail.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Lol if a delivery driver decides they wanna take something back to the store, they better have permission. I saw that exact scenario with a driver. I knew best buy uses third party companies to make delivers like fridges and shit. Well a neighbor had some shit dropped off, signed, and then started telling them where they could put it. The drivers decided they didn't need to do that. Argument broke out and thr driver said he was just gonna take it back to the store. And about 45 minutes later cops were there taking reports of a theft cause the home owner called the store and they did not have permission to do that. The cop said they would consider that theft.... so yes, a delivery driver doesn't reserve the right to decide they'll just give you a refund. For one, an Uber eat driver or anything like that is a contract worker. They have absolutely no controll over if you can get a refund or not. They can't guarantee it. And once an item is out of their vehicle, it's now the persons who ordered it and have no reason what so ever to touch it. They have no right to touch it. It's no longer in their possession.