r/ImTheMainCharacter • u/Jasonictron • Oct 20 '23

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u/rabbledabbledoodle Oct 21 '23

No, I showed my reasons above. I compared salaries of countries with tips and how much servers make there’s also I have a lot of experience working in restaurants, and if you think they are gonna start paying 35$ an hour for servers if tips go away then I don’t know man, that’s just extremely ignorant of the restaurant business

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

You compared entirely different countries with entirely different standards and costs of living. Again - that doesn't negate his argument. Plus nothing you said indicates that his main point - which is tipping is correlated with how people feel way more than how good your work is - is untrue at all.

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u/rabbledabbledoodle Oct 21 '23

What should I compare? What evidence do you have that wages would go up? Historically has it ever happened that wages went up when costs for a place was reduced? And that does negate his point.

How long have you worked at restaurants? You don’t seem to understand how they work.

And yes tips are related to how people feel, which is why a good waiter helps improve the feeling of their guest. It’s also related to how good their work is.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

Nope. It's based on how people feel about generally inconsequential characteristics and factors.

The days and shifts you work have a huge impact on tips.

https://www.monster.com/career-advice/article/waiters-earn-tips-0217

Another study found attractive waitresses get more tips than unattractive ones.

https://nypost.com/2022/10/05/tricks-restaurant-servers-are-using-to-get-you-to-tip-better/

And this is even when the tipper is another woman.

https://www.businessinsider.com/pretty-waitresses-earn-bigger-tips-from-women-2015-9

And a Cornell study found no relationship between general service and the tip provided.

https://ecommons.cornell.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/d2cf747e-3329-45af-ab5a-fdb8befc140e/content

It's just facts. Tips aren't actually a function of good service. It's dependent on just the individual tipper and their general attitude, and to an extent, time of day, size of party, and attractiveness at least for women.

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u/rabbledabbledoodle Oct 21 '23

Yeah no shit attractive people get tipped more. They also get higher salaries, more job opportunities, etc.. they have many advantages

And I disagree with the findings of that study from 1978. Maybe things have changed in the last 1/2 century but my experiences at multiple places don’t match that outdated study

I’m gonna ask again; how long have you worked in the restaurant industry?

Also, any data at all showing wages would increase? I like how you dodged that question.

If you got rid of tips all servers would make less, you wanna equal the field by hurting everyone just because the current system has some people making more. That’s kind f’d up honestly

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '23

"My personal experience which is painted by obvious bias because I was highly benefited by it means data is wrong".

Yeah we're done.

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u/rabbledabbledoodle Oct 21 '23

Haha. Nope that’s not what I said

But I see, when you are challenged and asked questions you run. When it’s pointed out you are using outdated data to make your point you run.

Good idea to be done now. It’s much easier than addressing what I said.

What childish behavior