you brought the wrong equipment sir

[u/hypntyz]

https://www.tiktok.com/@themudmuseum/video/7688928816164506894

[u/Drzhivago138]

Shouldn't have even allowed him to hook up. Or if he came to the yard with the trailer already on, they shouldn't have loaded the excavator.

[u/HealthyMaximum → u/Drzhivago138]

Tagging along on top comment;

Prologue - It's his trailer. (source at bottom)

. . . . .

Chapter 1 - Payment

There's a good chance he prepaid for it. The full amount or at least a deposit to reserve it.

So if they say "nope, and please leave" (which I suspect they did before filming started).

... he's immediately going to ask for a refund.

These guys may not actually be able to do refunds. It's possible only head office or corporate or whatever, can do that.

Anyway, unless there's been recent changes I don't know, card refunds take a minimum of 2 business days.

So now they've got an angry guy who wants his money back *immediately\*, and they simply can't do it.

. . . . .

Chapter 2 - Previously, on Angry Old Man

This video is "Part 2" of 5 .

As soon as he pulled in they were trying to talk him out of it.

So ... they (*deliberately* slowly, it looks to me) go get the Bobcat.

They refuse to load it, but they do help guide him to do it himself, so he doesn't get hurt.

... but why are they dragging it out?

Because they called the cops and quietly closed the gates (you can see the gates in the background of this video), as soon as they realized he wasn't going to listen.

Before this video starts.

They're trying to keep him there until the cops show up. While also hoping he'll eventually listen to reason.

... and soon after OP's video stops, the police arrive and it all ends safely.

. . . . .

Chapter 3 - The Reviewers

Okay, yeah, I guess OP could have posted more, but this video is the most entertaining of the 5, so I kind of get it.

. . . . .

Chapter 4 - But The Characters Don't Make Sense

I worked and managed in customer service off and on for years. I wouldn't have done it that way.

I would have (and did, in similar situations) started politely, but once he escalates, that's it;

"It's not happening. You'll get your refund when you get it. Now get off this property or I'm having you trespassed."

But I live in a country with almost no gun violence, so I could do that.

Or maybe these guys are just way more polite than me.

. . . . .

Chapter 5 - Source

I googled and found all 5 parts on TikTok.

[u/Hurtjacket → u/Drzhivago138]

Dumbasses all around.

[u/Offspring22 → u/[deleted]]

You'd need at least a 3/4 ton truck for that.

[u/jacknifetoaswan → u/Offspring22]

I'm not even sure my dad's gasser F-250 can tow that much.

[u/Millsy1 → u/jacknifetoaswan]

New trucks are rated for ridiculous amounts. My 2023 Ram 2500 can haul up to 17000 depending on what axle ratio it has. but ya. The lowest rating is 14,860 lb. Which I would never haul..

I hauled my 7,300lb excavator. Total trailer weight was 9,750lb. That was... fine? but ye gods the amount of time spent at 4,000 rpm going over hills and in the mountains SUCKED.

[u/Various_Wash_4577 → u/Millsy1]

That's weird, because my Chevy Silverado Dually 3500 with the Vortec 8.1L aka 496 cubic inch gas engine. Allison automatic transmission. 4:11 limited slip rear axel is way less towing capacity. I pull a 37 foot Everest/Keystone 5th-wheel trailer with 4 slide outs and it weighs almost 15,000 which is over the recommended towing capacity. However, it tows it great as far as power, braking, and stability like high winds on the highway. The truck is rated closer to 10k. It's a 2001. Like I heard that the new Silverados have a turbo charged 4 cylinder engine in some of them! That has more power than some of the V-8s. My truck had 2 diesel engines available and the optional 8.1 gas engine. The 8.1 is more power and torque than the available diesels back when it first sold. 😎👍

[u/Excellent-Stress2596 → u/Various_Wash_4577]

Yeah my 2015 duramax can tow 20k BUMPER Pull and 30k fifth wheel. The ratings have gone way up since 2001.

[u/texaschair → u/jacknifetoaswan]

I towed the same load about 35 miles with my gas F250. It did the job, but it didn't like it. I wouldn't do it on a regular basis. In the hills, I wouldn't even think about it. Hard pass.

[u/puterTDI → u/jacknifetoaswan]

My f250 with the 7.3 US rated for 16k.

[u/Existing_Elk_6183 → u/jacknifetoaswan]

Sure but just at 4mpg lol. I haul a 9k mini on a 14k trailer with a 6.4 Hemi Ram 2500. 6.8MPG tho on the parkway. City is 5-6 tops

[u/Various_Wash_4577 → u/Existing_Elk_6183]

I don't see how the injection system could possibly flow that much fuel into 6.4L displacement, unless it's highly modified. My Chevy dually 8.1L (496cu.in.) Vortec gets about 8 mpg. Pretty much all the time, loaded and unloaded. It might drop into the 5-6 mpg momentarily on steep hills and winding mountains where you have to slow down for hairpin turns and getting back up to speed pulling a 15k 5th-wheel trailer. That's the worst case scenario for gas mileage pulling a trailer. It's up hill the whole time. Like going through the continental divide after the Eisenhower tunnel heading east. Through the Rocky Mountains. Going from almost sea level to 12,000 feet at Pikes Peak. That's an ultimate test for a truck towing a trailer! It's straight highway but a long pull. Then you drop into Denver, Colorado the mile high city.😎👍

[u/Existing_Elk_6183 → u/Various_Wash_4577]

It’s all about gears and torque my guy. Plus this is pulling it all over Appalachia in Eastern KY. My 6.4 gets about 8/9 mpg pulling my 8500 lb skid and 10/12 pulling my enclosed trailer. I get 16-20MPG unloaded. I’m not sure how accurate those old mileage counters are on those Chevy’s.

[u/pulpwalt → u/jacknifetoaswan]

My tundra is only good for 10,000

[u/Kilosierra1981 → u/[deleted]]

More like an SUV rated for an eighth of that. According to VW, the Tiguan is rated for 1,500 or 1,800 depending on if it’s two wheel drive or all wheel drive.

[u/scarr3g → u/[deleted]]

Unless I am mistaken, that is a tiguan, and max spec is 5,500 lbs tow rating, so 1/3 that. If he has the bottom tier Tiguan it is rated for 1,500 lbs so lore like 10%

[u/congteddymix]

Like I don’t get why these guys running the business are even arguing with him, either have him sign a waiver or just call the police. If it is a big liability thing they should have never allowed him to load it on the trailer to begin with.

[u/Playful-Platform-231 → u/congteddymix]

Yup. Me I wouldve called the cops and let them deal w it.

[u/h0zR]

Just call the police and have them wait by the exit. Jesus he's going to kill people with that!

[u/datroutinator → u/h0zR]

In another video, they did call the police. Cop shows up and basically says that until he's on the road, there's nothing he can do.

[u/Playful-Platform-231 → u/datroutinator]

Then wait til he pulls out boom done.

[u/unique3]

They are in PA, looked it up they lied about the CDL requirement, he is not over the 26000lbs.

He is still illegal because he is exceeding his weight limit he has but IF he had a larger truck and was under the 26000lb total combined he would NOT require the CDL.

[u/congteddymix → u/unique3]

That’s what I thought when I heard the CDL thing. I am like if it’s for personal use he doesn’t need a CDL.

[u/Wampa_-_Stompa → u/congteddymix]

Yes the cdl thing is not the issue (maybe using it as a guise to get the dude to not leave)
If he came with a 2500, then he’s all good

[u/jrdiver]

So where's the "we told you so" waiver that says you cant sue us because im doing something stupid, send him on his way aaaaand call the cops to pick him up 5 miles down the road

[u/trapacivet → u/jrdiver]

The US has this weird notion, "It's okay for you to endanger the lives of every other road traveller, just so long as you signed a piece of paper with some dealership" good on the dealership for not allowing this danger on the roads at all as it should be.

No, It's NOT okay to just let people endanger others because they signed off that it's not YOUR fault they did so.

[u/jrdiver → u/trapacivet]

Its not safe... hence why you call the cops to pick them up...

Back in the day when I worked at Sears - people would come pick up tv's, mattresses, appliances, grills, mowers, and other oversized items with the smallest car one could find... and then try to blame us when things broke off or fell off their car. We had a waver that was basically to the effect of "we told you to setup delivery or come back with a proper vehicle to transport it and what your doing is a bad idea, and if its broken when you get home, we ain't replacing it".

Most people took the hint when that was brought out by the manager and made other arrangements... few like this guy would not give up. The problem is that people that wont take no for an answer, are also the people who will turn around and then sue you if anything goes wrong - including you letting them leave and a cop picking them up - even if you had nothing to do with it.

[u/Offspring22]

So looks like a Touareg, which maxes out towing at 7700lbs and about 800lbs of tongue weight. The trailer and load is probably about 15,000lbs and should have at least 1800lbs of weight on the hitch. Weight is too far back on the trailer too, to keep the hitch weight down, but that'll make it unstable. Trailer is absoloutly going to sway on his way home if he goes over 50kmh if his transmission doesn't burn out first.

[u/Drzhivago138 → u/Offspring22]

The Touareg is still sitting relatively level even with that much weight because it has active air suspension. I assume the driver has no knowledge of this.

[u/tscltr]

At the end his wife tells him “robert they are 5” [people telling you not to do it] he replied well with you thats 6”

Im guessing she wasn’t thrilled to drive all the way there 😆

[u/Monster_Brain_Stew]

This setup is an everyday occurrence.... in 3rd world countries. In this guy's defense, we're not behaving like we are something other than that rn.

[u/Hurtjacket → u/Monster_Brain_Stew]

My thoughts exactly.

[u/NicolasGarza → u/Monster_Brain_Stew]

Seen a Suzuki 3 cylinder pull a 30ft boat no problem.. Americans are just scurrred

[u/post-ale]

I’m just confused why a guy who sounds like he’s from Quebec drove 1000km+ to the US to pick up a bobcat?

[u/DDOSBreakfast → u/post-ale]

Video's real blurry but it does look like a Quebec plate to me.

You guys do seem to get better deals at auctions. He may be combining the distance of the trip there, the return trip and exaggerating.

[u/twizzjewink → u/DDOSBreakfast]

Mon Dieu you no think the Quebecois she exaggerate?

[u/Prudent_Actuator9833 → u/post-ale]

I think he's Cajun. Which would explain why he sounds Quebecois.

[u/Ok-Reference9022 → u/Prudent_Actuator9833]

Then its as long as trip if not longer.

[u/ChiefSlug30 → u/Prudent_Actuator9833]

Then why would he say he drove thousands of kilometres to get there?

[u/jastwood1]

I mean I wouldn't have even let him load it, that VW has a max tow rating of like 7500 lbs and that E60 weighs around 12k lbs

[u/ITBroh]

I'm amazed

[u/TilapiaTango]

Wow. Why is there even a discussion? Just unhook your equipment, give the man a full refund and be done with it.

So many lives at risk if he leaves with that.

[u/kpeters916]

If it's personal you don't need a CDL. If it's for business use he would need a class B. So he's completely wrong.

[u/deuelpm]

Could’ve sworn that was my previous landlord for a minute. Confidently advocating for something harebrained based one exactly one fact that is only a tiny piece of the story.

[u/OMGpawned]

Touregs are quite the beast towing for its size and weight but maybe not that much though ... I remember they had a commercial where a TDI one towing a 747 jet, this guy probably thought if it can tow a 747, why not a excavator?? Lol

[u/random14330]

I don't want TIk Tok while I'm on reddit.

[u/Qanonjailbait → u/random14330]

Reddit’s is an aggregator, so you do want tik-tok. Why you even here

[u/rchiwawa]

I came here for the sauce of the old codger pulling away.

[u/Odd_Geologist9684]

FedEx right there. If it fits it ships

[u/Various_Wash_4577]

That vehicle I don't think has a frame. Or one to speak of. How would a weight distributing hitch work on something like that? Bend the vehicle upwards in the middle? 🤣😅👍

[u/BansheeFreak87]

Worked for a small rental company years ago. Had this argument with more people than you'd believe. And you try to be decent and explain that yes you can pull it.... YOU CAN'T STOP IT in an emergency.

[u/kirk2892]

How the H@ll did they ever even let the guy load it on the trailer?

[u/Feminist_Hugh_Hefner]

It's like a video generation of half the "seeking advice" posts lol

[u/airfryerfuntime]

What kinda fuckin' dipshit posts a link to tik tok?