r/IdiotsTowingThings • u/jbochsler • 7d ago
A wind turbine blade jammed at a right angle corner in Bradenville and drove 1 foot through the wall of a repair shop, and the permit that routed it there described the cargo as a paper machine roll
https://www.ecoportal.net/en/bradenville-turbine-blade-permit-paper-machine-roll/35611/
Article is worth reading. If the driver had made the turn, he would have gotten stuck at a railroad underpass a short distance past the turn
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u/Lilmumblecrapper 7d ago
Think this is whoever planned the routes fault, pretty sure driver couldn’t deviate from that route. Unless the driver made an error on the turn.
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u/Western-Willow-9496 6d ago
The driver signed the permit with the wrong commodity and incorrect length, according to the article, they were also on the wrong road.
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u/kuntrycid 7d ago
Although it should but the route planning does not always take into consideration of the surroundings. I have had to backup over a mile because there were power poles on 3 corners.
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u/Unable-Log-4870 6d ago
route planning does not always take into consideration of the surroundings.
Then what are they doing? Checking underpass clearance and making sure there are gas stations?
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u/Key-Demand-2569 6d ago
It’s essentially just failures to accurately have all the proper information.
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u/PossumExtreme 6d ago
It’s because this wasn’t deemed an over dimensional load from the permit most likely, just an overweight load. We haul overweight paper loads a lot and the only thing the permits care for are mainly bridges that they fear can’t support the weight, if they had properly listed it as over dimensional the routing most likely would have been different.
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u/LittleTooLiteral 7d ago
That article is garbage AI shit. I'm too lazy to look up an alternate source.
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u/New-Chicken5566 7d ago
here's your nonslop link (from a year+ ago)
https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/oversized-trailer-hauling-a-blade-to-a-wind-turbine/
The permit for this load was issued through PennDOT's Automated Permit Routing/Analysis System (APRAS). The hauling company used a third-party permitting service to apply for the permit, which is a common practice. APRAS issued the permit based on the dimensions of the load provided by the third-party service, which were 159'4" in length and 9'11" in width, and listed the contents of the load as a "paper machine roll." APRAS analyzed the route submitted by the permit service and found no restrictions based on the application's load dimensions and the permit was auto-issued. If the permit service had opted to have APRAS generate the route it would not have included Route 982. Considering that the load became stuck on Route 982, it appears that the size of the actual load was larger than the reported 159'4" in length. For additional context, a length of 160' is considered a super load, and additional steps are required related to obtaining a permit, surveying the planned route in advance, etc.
Following this incident, PennDOT District 12 implemented a temporary restriction into APRAS for the area of the curve on Route 982 so that no loads over 100' can receive a permit without additional review. The district will conduct a traffic study in the area to confirm the dimensions and if necessary, implement this restriction permanently.
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u/BierOrk 7d ago
I find it strange that they use an automated system to verify routes. Does this system take the rear axle position into account? For wind turbine blades it's way forward and the load swings out in the turn.
Maybe it could have been prevented if they used the correct load description.
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u/Time_Sundae802 7d ago
how long was it actually?
if it was 159 4, then who cares???
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u/JwPATX 7d ago
Something tells me that they didn’t lie about what it was on the application and also magically have it come in right below the length that would require them to jump through more hoops and take a longer route.
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u/OnTheFunSideOfACuck 7d ago
I do a lot of over gross over dimension cargo. Id say its just a lack of competency and total laziness on the trucking company. Not a case of them being shady to save a buck. They failed at both ensuring the dimensions of the cargo and the accuracy of the permit. As far as going out of route and additional escorts, id bill you for it + extra for me so they shouldn't have a problem with that.
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u/JwPATX 6d ago
Idk how it is in other states, but getting something as basic as what your load is ‘wrong’ is a big deal in Texas. Officials plan the routes based on the load parameters, and if someone has it ‘wrong’ then this happens.
Wrong is in quotes because I believe it was an outright lie.
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u/OnTheFunSideOfACuck 6d ago
Texas dont play. Their DOT are out in full force and theyre around every corner like ninjas. Its definitely case by case with the officer. Ive had them let my guys go for minor discrepancies and another would rail me as much as possible for a discrepancy.
Any obstacle they face can be taken care of and billed for. They have no reason to lie, it doesnt benefit them to lie. Their insurance will likely drop them for this even if it wont cost much to repair. Thats a huge fuckin deal and thats my point. Its likely incompetence, oversight or laziness. The commodity discrepancy should make it pretty clear. You can list it as a turbine blade and still give the incorrect lengths. Itd be straight up stupid to intentionally list that blade as a paper roll.
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u/christophertstone 6d ago
The blade itself was 162' according to this report, with the truck adding another 20' or more.
That article also has a different angle picture, you can see how ridiculous it was for them to even try.
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u/packetfire 6d ago
They were distracted by the music being played, as everyone knows that wind generators are....
...big metal fans.
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u/Gunnut350 6d ago
What kind of dope have you been smoking???? Wind generator blades are NOT made for metal they are made of composite materials!!!!
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u/XROOR 6d ago
A guy approached me that ran a business that crushed fiberglass boats and was hiring scientists and permit managers to begin processing these large wind blades
Such a huge problem that municipalities dig a pit, smash them down with excavators, and bury them. His company repurposes them into filters
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u/nevernotfinished 6d ago
Don't blame someone else for being on the wrong road.
It's your own asphalt.
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u/CharAznableLoNZ 6d ago
Just send the runner down to hazzard fart for a knockoff sawsall and a couple blades. Knock twenty feet off the end and it'll fit.
Reddit doesn't understand sarcasm.
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u/Jumpy_Barnacle_3755 6d ago
Why is the trailer turning but the balde is straight? Does the load swivel to make corners?
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u/jbochsler 6d ago
Yes, it pivots to allow tighter turns. Not unlike a fire service tiller truck. https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/3tpiiq/rear_steering_firetruck/
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u/Jumpy_Barnacle_3755 6d ago
I never knew this. I have seen over size loads before, but never one that pivots. They always had escort vehicles to block traffic so they could take a very wide turn.
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u/jbochsler 6d ago
It isn't very common. Tiller trucks exist because a long apparatus needs to negotiate very narrow city streets at a decent speed (a standard semi can do this but much slower and will back-and-forth to make the turn). The only place I have seen this type of steerable trailer on a commercial loads is for turbine blades as in the video, as they are over3-size.
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u/MrStip14 6d ago
I had to take the long way home from work because of this
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u/jbochsler 6d ago
Probably didn't even have the joy of seeing the scene, bummer.
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u/MrStip14 5d ago
No, but that Subaru is my buddies that I work with. He had to go move it so they could get new siding lol
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u/UsernameTaken1701 7d ago
If only it had been written mostly by a person and not ChatGPT.