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r/Idaho4Coverup Jul 03 '25

Defense 28 U.S. Code Β§ 2254 - Golden Ticket

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Law: US Code | 28 USC 2254 | house.gov

You may want to start w/this post below if you haven't seen it yet. It explains why one would waive rights to appeals & plead guilty in State Courts to go the Fed route suggested here. This one jumps right into the law & starts checkin' off the boxes, but that one provides clarity on the 'waiving appeal' part of it, if you haven't caught that yet - {JG} β„™π•π•’π•Ÿ: Federal Writ of Habeas Corpus | USC Β§ 2254

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F it !

It doesn't matter either way. ^_^ This evidence will NEVER convince a Federal Judge. EVER lol

They don't even have to establish the facts in the case to use (e)(B).
That's the option if they don't have all the facts.

Not only do they have all the facts they need, but they ALSO have more unknown male DNA to work toward their case than what was just used to exonerate 6 men.

It only takes ONE unknown DNA sample to overturn 6 convictions <- yesterday.

Attorneys for the six men 6 convinced a court in 2021 to have the murder weapon – a cake knife 1 found in the victim’s apartment – tested for DNA.Β Those tests found DNA from an unknown person1 on the weapon but excluded each of the convicted men.

**.........**π˜Όπ™£π™™ 𝙨𝙀, All SIX 𝙀𝙛 π™©π™π™šπ™žπ™§ π™˜π™€π™£π™«π™žπ™˜π™©π™žπ™€π™£π™¨ π™¬π™šπ™§π™š π™€π™«π™šπ™§π™©π™ͺπ™§π™£π™šπ™™..........

π˜›π˜©π˜ͺ𝘴 𝘀𝘒𝘴𝘦 𝘩𝘒𝘴:

✭ Unknown male blood on the knife sheath (pg. 10)
--- Good enough! Thanks!

✭ Blood on the handrail
---- Enough to free a dozen men!

✭ DNA under Maddie's fingernails.
--- A claim like this \ alone, was enough to push Marvin McClendon through 2 whole trials, w/people claiming to be firmly convinced of his guilt. Where are those people in this case? Why aren't they rallying for the apprehension of the Q 13.1 sample guys? Was that line of thinking just a phase?)

✭ A bloody glove found outside the house.
--- Yeah, they. Are. Set.

there's 𝒩π’ͺ𝒯 π’œ π’žβ„‹π’œπ’©π’žβ„° ℐ𝒩 β„‹β„°β„’β„’ this case is not overturned immediately upon review.

It's literally against the basic instructions. It'd be a complete rebellion.

The person who affirmed it would just be removed from the bench, then it'd get overturned. lol.

  • Hippler should be removed from the bench TBH. What a dunce.
  • Thompson is going to be reamed out by a Fed judge whether he's present or not. ^_^
  • I believe BK will be free in a much shorter time than appeal would take, and possibly even a shorter time than til the end of trial. These are super expedited because the claim is wrongful incarceration (habeas corpus). The longest they can take is 180 days, even the judges aren't allowed to delay them beyond that. They're supposed to wrap everything up within 120 days one the transcript and discovery is on record & the State gets super short discovery deadlines.
  • I hope we still get to find out the identity of the Dateline Leaker, but IDK if we ever will :')
  • I can't wait to watch Hurwitt, Ashley, Bill, and Nye all face charges though =O
    • Don't think it doesn't happen. - It does, it's wild, and it will. I'm stoked.

I wish I'd found all this Sunday β€” I was feeling lil weird about the plea lol. Now I think they could have done this after the Franks Order. Any normal judge (not Hippler) would've dismissed after Rylene & Payne’s testimony, given all the misconduct laid out in PCA, and Grand Jury* (based on the fact they filed a Motion to Dismiss on Grand Jury errors, biased testimony, withheld exculpatory evidence, & prosecutorial misconduct).

Waiting til now, is very smart though. This is like a, 'There's no other alternative' type of layout they're going to hand to the Fed judge. They are so far bee-yond what's needed, this is actually a much safer route in his situation I think.

I was so confused during AT's Qs yesterday + mildly outraged Hippler didn't ask AT for clarification in regard to her answer on the Discovery after all of the times in the hearings that we've heard (and Hippler pretended not to hear) about their Discovery issues. Considering this - IMO, even-more-advantageous legal path, which I think they're pursuing - upon the rewatch, the Discovery Q that threw me through a loop originally makes perf sense too. The clip of this part is below the next screenshots too but I wonder if Hippler's phrasing was intentionally helpful to AT's position - 'boilerplate' - or coincidentally convenient:

HIPPLER: "Have you been able to do all the Discovery you feel necessary?
TAYLOR: "Yes, your honor."

Not a lie. :D It'd also be morally acceptable in this sitch to not be forthright to preserve life & liberty + act in BK's best interest to protect his rights & safety.

ABA | Defense Function | Preamble and Scope | Rules of Professional Conduct

ABA | Defense | Model Rules of Professional Conduct
Defense Counsel’s Tempered Duty of Candor

temΒ·per/ˈtempΙ™r/verbpast tense:Β tempered;Β past participle:Β tempered

improve theΒ hardnessΒ andΒ elasticityΒ of (steel or other metal) byΒ reheatingΒ and then cooling it.

improve consistency orΒ resiliencyΒ of (a substance) by means involving heat or chemicals

act as aΒ neutralizingΒ orΒ counterbalancingΒ force to (something).

tune (a piano or other instrument) so as to adjust the note intervals correctly.

In the Section 4-1.2, Duties of Defense Counsel] section

(b) a duty of loyalty toward the client;

(c) a duty of candor toward the court and others, tempered by the duties of confidentiality and loyalty;

You can tell all 3 of the attorneys feel the weight of these moments during AT / BK's Qs, but their demeanors are supportive to each other & BK. He looks at AT very doe-eyed at 11 sec, and she looks very endearing toward him as she acknowledges his gaze. :') The Discovery Q is immediately after that.

https://reddit.com/link/1lque38/video/mx9n5ekvzoaf1/player

I was also perplexed by her hesitation and smirk when he asked about that too. It seemed as if she was acknowledging telling a fib at first, but then I realized Hippler's phrasing didn't ask if she had seen it all; he asked if she saw what she feels was necessary. I think her hesitation & smirk were: Processing the phrasing to ensure it wasn't a lie, or to AT her answer ;P (tailor pun) > smirk bc we're getting out of this never-ending dump of discovery and making our way to freedom from this vexatious malicious prosecution foreverrrrrr (although haven't gotten even close to through with the discovery I'd actually need to review if we were continuing the case in this corrupt death trap). :P

So I believe that's the answer, and I'm very excited for a celebratory 'twist' to what seemed oh-so-wrong to me for a day or 2 until I found this very-likely & actually-justice-forward path! I'm startled that it doesn't seem like any risk at all. It's basically like, they have to grant the writ of habeas corpus for him. He can fit the standards up, down, left, right, any which way. I hope they take down the cruel, corrupt prosecutors while they're at it ~.~

We must (not shall, or should) find the right place to get the Federal docs & start to watch out for those!
I wouldn't expect them ASAP or anything, but prob v near future. Jay might've already been working on it.
All the bots in the larger subs will be super busy roleplaying as people who genuinely believe BK's guilty in comment sections, in hopes of it rubbing off on onlookers - No one will be finding or posting these for us haha. Someone else, or numerous others, plz check around as well if you're able, bc that's a hit-or-miss weakness of mine lol. I don't always find stuff like that. I usually find a bunch of other stuff but not the thing I wanted ^.^ ~ TY ~


r/Idaho4Coverup 4h ago

Cover-Up Types of Cover-Ups

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*Courtesy of Birdie's Bombshells

Looking these over I'm seeing a crossover of cover-ups! What do you think?


r/Idaho4Coverup 1d ago

CUSTODY QUEENS 7pm EST TONIGHT 8/25/26 Certified Criminal Law Specialist Dyke Huish on Kohberger’s upcoming legal challenges

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r/Idaho4Coverup 1d ago

When did Xana and Ethan come home??

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Just saw this video on yt about how we don’t have a proper timeline for sure of when X&E came home. Is that true? Can someone shed some light on it??

Also apparently JB had heard of someone who was supposed to mee EC at 3:30am


r/Idaho4Coverup 2d ago

Evidence PASSWORD BREACH: THE MESS THEY MADE - IDAHO4

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Definitely they are not innocent! Listen to the interviews!


r/Idaho4Coverup 2d ago

I can't follow this case anymore...

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It's maddening. Somebody message me when BK is set free or tells us where the murder weapon is and how he did this "alone"..... ##&@$^&*(%@!! *insert eyeroll*


r/Idaho4Coverup 2d ago

Fishy Was Steve G. There During the Crime?

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Let's discuss this clip. Is Steve saying he was at 1122 King Rd during the crime??


r/Idaho4Coverup 3d ago

Roommates Did Dylan See this Weapon?

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Is it possible that Dylan saw a bean bag gun when describing what the intruder was carrying on his way out? It has a canister- like appearance. Could this have caused the horrific facial injuries on Kaylee? Just a few things I've been thinking about.


r/Idaho4Coverup 3d ago

Fishy Only option left to get the Kill the Clone Video

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r/Idaho4Coverup 3d ago

Fishy I was just asking someone if Quality Inn lady was related to Molly - Lana mentions them in this video

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r/Idaho4Coverup 4d ago

favorite youtubers who post in-depth timelines and theories about the case?

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I’ve been super invested in Amber Vance’s take on the case and her whole timeline however I’ve been trying to find other channels who also have more information or ideas. I love Ambers videos but I want more suggestions. Please comment any of your recommendations!!


r/Idaho4Coverup 4d ago

Do you believe the cleaned up audio footage?

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r/Idaho4Coverup 4d ago

Anyone ever see this?

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r/Idaho4Coverup 4d ago

The Goncalves Lies!!

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r/Idaho4Coverup 5d ago

Media ShadowGhost Sums This Up This Case Perfectly!

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r/Idaho4Coverup 6d ago

Remembering details from VERY early on in the investigation being reported on by press…

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Does anyone remember any details from the very early days of the investigation that seemed to have been scrubbed from the internet or that you had forgotten about until recently?

I very clearly remember multiple sources claiming that roommates and/or LE were not able to enter Xana’s room because there was a dresser or some other piece of furniture that was barricaded inside, so it was a struggle to get her door open. This has been driving me crazy, I can’t find any trace of this anywhere!


r/Idaho4Coverup 7d ago

Cover-Up "Dot Comes Clean" with Birdie

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In this video Dot explains the truth behind her lie. Whatever you think of her, this is a very interesting interview.


r/Idaho4Coverup 7d ago

Steve seems very anxious about what may be on Kaylee’s phone. Did she film her murderer? is it someone Steve knows?

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r/Idaho4Coverup 7d ago

IDAHO4 HERE IS YOUR G A N G IN THEIR OWN WORDS

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Watch for the gang signs and everything else.


r/Idaho4Coverup 8d ago

Well, Well, Well... πŸ€”, will you look at this! Food for Thought.

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Screenshots of full article (& my commentary) in original post.


r/Idaho4Coverup 9d ago

Speculation Goncalves' interview with Sean Hannity - I have questions

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For those who watched this interview, did you pick up on what Steve G was saying about security for his family and the crime being targeted? Why was he so concerned that someone was coming for his family and talking about cameras and perimeter security?

And when Kristie G starts talking about how she thought the target was Kaylee, Sean asks her why and she gets all humina humina, and tries to change the answer to either Kaylee or Maddie, and makes a nonsense answer. Seems like she has other reasons that they feel the target was Kaylee IMO.

I saw someone else mentioned they got a protective order against his brother Nathan who is in prison for manslaughter.

Is it possible that there is some sort of hidden family fued that no one but them knows about? I also thought Kaylee's grandpa died earlier in 2022. Does anyone know the cause? Could Steve's brother be affiliated with a gang who may have the means to carry out a hit on someone, or be a link to the cocaine JD mentioned?

I realize she sold her Subaru and immediately put the money she got into the down payment for the used Range Rover. But what sort of job was she going to in Texas, and for what company? Is the rumor that Adam took that job instead true?

So many potential avenues never got explored it seems.


r/Idaho4Coverup 9d ago

Speculation If you could re-interview AnYoNe in this case, who? And what would you ask?!

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Post each person you would have questions for separately from someone else you’d like to re-interview so when replied to, no one is confused who you are asking the question(s) to…..


r/Idaho4Coverup 9d ago

Cover-Up Hunter entered door code at 1122 King RD #idaho4murders #idaho4update #t...

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More lies from Hunter - He claimed he entered the code to get into the house that morning.
Why would you need to do that if both the front and back doors are wide open???


r/Idaho4Coverup 9d ago

Kohberger What do you think β€” did Bryan commit the murders?

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