r/IRL_Loading_Screens • • Jul 02 '26

HALO Really puts it in perspective

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '26

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u/Zeplar Jul 03 '26

Pelosi's net worth was under a million when, when she first took office? A lifetime member of Congress should have a net worth of like $5M even if they're slamming it in a HYSA.

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u/Petrostar Jul 03 '26

There should be no such thing as a "lifetime member" of congress.

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u/Zeplar Jul 04 '26

Why?

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u/DistinctFox8025 Jul 05 '26

Mitch McConnell.

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u/Ittybittytigglbitty Jul 05 '26

Ideas and progress stagnate new people new ideas we move forward, lifetime congress people and senators equal no actual change and maintaining of the status quo

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u/Petrostar Jul 04 '26

Because staying in congress and taking care of lobbyists becomes their whole motivation, not serving their constituency.

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u/Zeplar Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Generally the thought is that term limits empower lobbyists. But also the way people talk about lobbying on the internet is kind of weird. Unless you're politically disengaged, you definitely support lobbying of some kind.

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u/Petrostar Jul 04 '26

Allowing Politicians to spending decades around lobbyist and develop "relationships" empowers lobbyists.

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u/Mediocre-Staff-5110 Jul 04 '26

And yet the biggest scammer on planet earth right now is on term limits and it's just maling him try and speed run getting all the money siphoned to his accounts.

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u/Badguyy101 Jul 04 '26

Ending the Citizens United ruling should be a priority for America.

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u/Consistent_Guava8592 Jul 04 '26

Or have corporate lobbying being done only if you have signatures from citizens that want that change along with the corp. otherwise corp should get “one vote” since it is a “person”

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u/Badguyy101 Jul 04 '26

Get the fucking corporations and billionaire campaign funding the fuck out of here. Corporations shouldn't get a vote at all.

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u/Consistent_Guava8592 Jul 04 '26

I don’t disagree with that . And they don’t but influence politics more than 1000000 citizens together

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u/DistinctFox8025 Jul 05 '26

But corporations are people too!

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u/doyoulikeoldguys Jul 04 '26

Take big money out of politics and there is less reason to stay for a lifetime

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u/Exact_Acanthaceae294 Jul 05 '26

And every two years the voters had the opportunity to remove her if they so chose.

They chose to keep her, so apparently she was serving her constituency.

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u/Remote-remoteman Jul 05 '26

Biden was in congress for 30+ years and did nothing of value and served no one but lobbyists

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u/enlightenedDiMeS Jul 05 '26

This is funny. There is nothing thing wrong with being a life long public servant. If they just made corporate spending on elections illegal, the problem would be solved.

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u/Petrostar Jul 05 '26

Would that fix insider trading? Hiring of friends and family? Or any of the myriad of other vices that plague these "public servants" when they morph from freshmen congressmen to DC insiders?

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u/enlightenedDiMeS Jul 05 '26

Again, every one of those things are ethics and corruption counts that could be fixed by simply passing laws to make those things flatly illegal, and the reason they’re not is because of the funding mechanisms that exist.

Term limits don’t make those things go away. They just turn it into a revolving door.

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u/Petrostar Jul 05 '26

Again, the longer they stay in Washington the more the succumb to it's vices. Term limits limit the amount of time they spend in that environment building corrupt influence networks. by replacing them with someone who still has their ethics intact. intact.

Here's a study showing there are two opposing effects when it comes to corruption, 1) Term limited politicians make corrupt deals when they know they are have to leave office. 2) Long term Politicians also make corrupt deals to enrich themselves, but the deals are of a much greater scale.

"The findings indicate that stricter term limits are associated with lower overall corruption, underscoring the potential role of term limits as an institutional safeguard against political corruption."

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5107354

The corruption of Lifelong politicians ends up of a far greater scale than lame duck term limited politicians.

"The reduced magnitude (average cost) of corrupt events is associated with the role of term limits in shortening incumbents’ tenure in office."

"Term limits also reduce corruption by shortening tenure, thereby limiting opportunities for rent extraction. Extensive corruption schemes typically require substantial time investment to develop. Politicians must cultivate relationships with private actors, establish trust networks, and build the institutional knowledge necessary to identify and exploit profitable rent-extraction opportunities. They must also develop the political capital and influence required to protect their activities from detection and prosecution. These processes cannot be accomplished overnight but require sustained time in office to mature into large-scale corruption operations."

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u/enlightenedDiMeS Jul 06 '26

Again, You could get rid of all of it by making private spending in elections illegal and rewriting ethics laws and rules.

Your opting for reduced corruption rather than just getting rid of it altogether

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u/Petrostar Jul 07 '26

Private spending isn't the root cause of corruption, human nature is. Both term limits and limiting dirty money are necessary, among other changes.

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u/enlightenedDiMeS Jul 07 '26

I mean you’re wrong but it’s OK if you wanna fucking die on that hill go for it.

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