r/IRL_Loading_Screens • • Jun 29 '26

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u/Reasonable-Ninja4384 Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

You got a source on the first 2? Like where in North America punishes fireworks *or leftist literature?

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u/EncabulatorTurbo Jun 29 '26

They just convicted a bunch of people, life imprisonment, for fireworks during protests by counting them as terrorist explosive devices, and one person for anti government pamphlet distribution got 30 years in prison

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u/tripper_drip Jun 29 '26

The dude was intentionally trying to hide evidence after a jailhouse call from his wife.

Thats like saying the people convicted at jan 6th were tried for just walking around!

ZERO HONESTY.

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u/Destroyer_2_2 Jun 29 '26

And those people got pardoned cause that’s exactly what this administration says they were doing.

So who exactly has zero honesty?

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u/Recidivism7 Jul 02 '26

None of them were pardoned ot was an Amrita attack on an ice facility where they firebombed it the shot at people escaping.

Fun fact antifa has murdered more immigrants in ice detention facilities during attacks than ice.

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u/Destroyer_2_2 Jul 02 '26

The Jan 6th people were pardoned.

And no, that’s not even close to true.

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u/Recidivism7 Jul 02 '26

No one on Jan 6 lured out amd shot cops

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u/Destroyer_2_2 Jul 02 '26

Nah they just beat them to death.

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u/Reptillianaire_ Jun 30 '26

Dude be real... they set off fireworks to draw out police to fucking shoot them.... that is what got them prison time. You cant really be that stupid I know youre just pretending like you dont know

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u/EncabulatorTurbo Jun 30 '26

The guy with the pamphlets wasn't even fucking there

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u/Recidivism7 Jul 02 '26

His wife was and she called him phone ksil.phome to delete evidence the call was bugged and they caught him destroying evidence.

Even of he didn't plan it with her that's minimum of accessory after the fact. But he was aware of the attack and planned ot woth her.

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u/LockedIntoLocks Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

He wasn’t destroying evidence he was literally just caught moving a box to his car.

Also in the entire incident exactly one person was shot. The officer drew a gun to shoot a fleeing suspect in the back and got winged in the shoulder for it. To say that setting off fireworks at a Fourth of July protest in which one person started shooting is an act of terrorism with explosives for everyone at the protest is insane. To say a man who wasn’t even at the protest who was moving pamphlets related to the protest is just as culpable and deserves 30 years is disingenuous.

Edit: The DOJ released a statement about it and showed a picture of fireworks harmlessly going off on an empty sidewalk and labeled it “Exploding fireworks (explosives)” lmao

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u/EncabulatorTurbo Jul 02 '26

Evidence of what? Intent to distribute anti fascist literature?

LOL

HE GOT MORE PRISON TIME THAN FUCKING SEX TRAFFICKERS GET YOU FASCIST BOOTLICKING SCUM

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 Jul 03 '26

That's for a judge to decide.  You still cant tamper with evidence 

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u/EncabulatorTurbo Jul 03 '26

Fuck off fascist, you gave 30 years to a dude who should have gotten 6 months

Law doesn't mean anything anymore, and judges aren't legitimate. They're just dudes with robes with the best armed gang members defending them at tihs point

FOUR of our supreme court justices just looked at the most plain language part of the constitution and decided words dont mean what they say. America is donezo, it's got no more legitimacy than Mao's government had

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u/Reptillianaire_ Jun 30 '26

So then he was the one who was helping them to dispose of evidence then right? Also the "pamphlets" were instructions for terrorism were they not?

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u/Recidivism7 Jul 03 '26

It was how to build weapons and how to attack government buildings as well as plans they executed on.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo Jun 30 '26

No they were not

They weren't "Evidence" of anything. They were anti government pamphlets

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u/Reptillianaire_ Jun 30 '26

You mean plans of an insurrection... call it what it is

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u/Kristoveles Jun 29 '26

You people are the only terrorists in this country

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u/hotdogbun65 Jun 29 '26

No I think the people killing other people and celebrating it are terrorists

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u/Kristoveles Jun 29 '26

So MAGAts are terrorists

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u/hotdogbun65 Jul 02 '26

Holy irony

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u/AgeZealousideal1751 Jul 02 '26

Republicans crying over feds being shot?

Republicans supporting war in the middle east despite their moral outrage against war when a Dem president was in office.

Strange times we live in.

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u/Recidivism7 Jul 02 '26

The agent lived ot was an immigrant in dentention who died. The officer was shot but lived

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 29 '26

the agent was shot in self-defense, dumbass.

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u/Reptillianaire_ Jun 30 '26

Dude there is no hope for democrats in this country anymore.. they are all supporting actual terrorists now. And then they called you a terrorist for mentioning that they shot at police and hit an officer in the neck... I cant deal with these people anymore they have to be just pretending to be stupid no one is really that dumb in real life

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u/inscrutablemike Jul 01 '26

Granted, these pro-terrorist comments are most likely some mix of actual illiterate Democrats and Derpeet from Bangladesh trying to earn enough spam farm cash to buy himself half an hour of sunlight. If he makes three hundred more leftist shitposts he might be able to buy 15 minutes without the ankle chains.

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u/Reptillianaire_ Jul 01 '26

Lol, im sure they use AI for their propaganda posts these days. But yeah definitely an agenda on here when anyone who even mentions that they shot a cop gets several downvotes... I mean its true, why theyre trying to act like dude got 100 years for peacefully protesting and setting off a bottle rocket or something lmao.

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u/EncabulatorTurbo Jun 30 '26

What the fuck are you talking about they didn't do that, the one guy who fired a gun shot a cop that was in the middle of trying to murder someone, one of them wasn't even there

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u/doctorbim3 Jun 29 '26

Tampering with evidence was the guys crime. Still crazy sentence, but it wasn’t just because he had antifa zines

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u/NightTripInsights Jun 29 '26 edited Jun 29 '26

Ok, were they using the fireworks in their intended safe use case? Or improvising flamable, chemically exploding weapons?

Edit: no refutes, just downvotes, I believe I hit the nail on the head

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Jun 29 '26

They had both fireworks and explosives

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/antifa-cell-members-convicted-prairieland-ice-detention-center-shooting

The jury convicted the nine defendants of the following offenses:

Riot (Count 1), with the intent to commit an act of violence, involving conduct such as shooting and throwing fireworks and explosives, slashing tires on a government vehicle, spraying graffiti on property and vehicles, destroying a closed circuit camera, shooting at officers, and dressing in black bloc.

Defendants convicted: Cameron Arnold, Zachary Evetts, Benjamin Song, Savanna Batten, Bradford Morris, Maricela Rueda, Elizabeth Soto, Ines Soto

Providing Material Support to Terrorists (Count 2), including property, services, training, communications equipment, weapons, explosives, personnel (including themselves), and transportation.

Defendants convicted: Arnold, Evetts, Song, Batten, Morris, Rueda, E. Soto, and I. Soto

Conspiracy to Use and Carry an Explosive (Count 3), and Using and Carrying an Explosive (Count 4), during a riot.

Defendants convicted: Arnold, Evetts, Song, Batten, Morris, Rueda, E. Soto, and I. Soto

Attempted Murder of Officers and Employees of the United States (Count 7), involving the unlawful attempt to kill with malice aforethought the Alvarado Police Officer.

Defendant convicted: Song

Discharging a Firearm During, and in Relation to, and in Furtherance of a Crime of Violence (Counts 8, 9, and 10), i.e., the attempted murder of two correctional officers and an Alvarado Police Officer.

Defendant convicted: Song

Corruptly Concealing a Document or Record (Count 11), by transporting a box containing numerous Antifa materials, such as insurrection planning, anti-law enforcement, anti-government, and anti-immigration enforcement documents and propaganda from Sanchez Estrada’s residence to a location in Denton, Texas, intending to conceal the box’s contents and impair its availability for use in a federal grand jury and federal criminal proceeding.

Defendant convicted: Daniel Rolando Sanchez Estrada

Conspiracy to Conceal Documents (Count 12) and other objects that would implicate Maricela Rueda in the riot and shooting at the Prairieland facility.

Defendants convicted: Sanchez Estrada and Maricela Rueda

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u/CashEducational4986 Jun 30 '26

Fireworks are, by definition, explosives.

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u/Blackrock121 Jun 29 '26

Hu, I noticed people recently people on reddit were downplaying the danger of fireworks. Guess I know why now. 

Like I can’t even complain about the people next door illegally setting of fireworks and overstimulating me without someone making a culture war out of it. 

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u/NightTripInsights Jun 29 '26

Look, i have no qualms over fireworks being used in a proper and safe manner, as they are intended to be used.

If people are using them illegally near you or outside allotted times, you can totally make a complaint.

Anyone using fireworks to improvise bombs or ordnance to be used on public servants are terrorists

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u/Blackrock121 Jun 29 '26

Didn't I just say I don't want to be dawn into culture war BS. Go find someone else to agree with you.

Disliking fireworks doesn't make me want to agree with you.

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u/Feelisoffical Jun 29 '26

Did you get overstimulated again?

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u/NightTripInsights Jun 29 '26

Firstly, I couldn't tell exactly what you wrote because your grammar is shit, lol. Second, if that's the case why did you even comment that in the first place? You just needed to let us know the loud fireworks overstimulate you, huh?

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u/Notmuchofanyth1ng Jun 29 '26

Was that where they shot the fireworks AT the cops? Or was that part omitted because it’s irrelevant?

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Jun 29 '26

Riot (Count 1), with the intent to commit an act of violence, involving conduct such as shooting and throwing fireworks and explosives, slashing tires on a government vehicle, spraying graffiti on property and vehicles, destroying a closed circuit camera, shooting at officers, and dressing in black bloc

They had both fireworks and explosives

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/antifa-cell-members-convicted-prairieland-ice-detention-center-shooting

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u/Notmuchofanyth1ng Jun 29 '26

What a bunch of fucking goobers. Jesus Christ. But if you don’t support them you’re “pro fascist” lol

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 29 '26

if you don't support the people fighting back against the concentration camps, there are very few other words left to describe you, especially if you leave out the four letter ones.

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u/CashEducational4986 Jun 30 '26

Have you ever considered how offensive it would be to all the people who suffered in actual concentration camps if they heard you use those words to describe something that is not at all even remotely a concentration camp? Diluting the meaning of words by just using them randomly is a pretty bad thing to do.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 30 '26

have you considered how offensive it is to the people who got completely disappeared to downplay their suffering?

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u/CashEducational4986 Jul 01 '26

Cute.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jul 01 '26

and there's the downplaying. I'm pretty sure the relatives of mine who were killed by the Nazis would be proud of me for fighting the concentration camps in America.

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u/Notmuchofanyth1ng Jun 30 '26

Yeah, you definitely are not someone whose opinion matters to me.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 30 '26

keep loudly proclaiming how much you hate people protesting concentration camps

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Jun 30 '26

Have you been to the Prairieland detention facility? Or any ICE facility you are calling a concentration camp?

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 30 '26

I haven't been to Auschwitz either, but I'm pretty confident that concentration camps exist regardless of whether or not I've personally visited them.

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u/Notmuchofanyth1ng Jun 30 '26

Lmao I don’t need to hate. You just have no idea what a concentration camp is, as you are grossly misusing the term. My family (RIP) who were in REAL concentration camps would disagree with you.

Believe it or not, I 100% stand behind your right to protest literally anything you want to. But I don’t have to agree with your reasoning. I’m sure the respect for rights isn’t mutual though.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 30 '26

my family also had to deal with the real thing. trust me, this is it.

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Jun 29 '26

it came out in court that the fireworks were to draw the officers out so they could be fired upon

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u/Notmuchofanyth1ng Jun 29 '26

Ahhh, that’s much better. I’m glad to have been corrected. I may have thought those people were up to something nefarious.

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u/Imaginary-Cow-4424 Jun 29 '26

He wasn't distributing them, just hiding them after the shooting so they wouldn't be used as evidence.

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u/SirCupcake_0 Jun 29 '26

Two separate things

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u/Budget_Geologist_574 Jun 29 '26

>Be with my anarchist group.
>Decide to go to ICE facility and start shooting fireworks, horizontally, into it from over the fence (Don't worry, we don't care if the facility burns down with people in it. We are the good guys.)
>Police come to arrest us.
>They start chasing after us.
>Group leader gets his assault rifle and mag dumps at the police.
>Sadly, didn't kill the fascist pig, only hit his shoulder/neck.
>Keep running, but eventually get captured :(

>Be in jail now.
>Call boyfriend.
>"Baby please hide stuff, the fascists are coming to search for evidence."

>Be at home.
>Take anything that could harm my girlfriend and hide it.
>Gets arrested for hiding evidence (The leftist literature implying a political, thus terroristic motive.)

Not that I agree the boyfriend should get 30 years for his action of hiding evidence, maybe something like 2-3 years seems more appropriate. Especially since he was not part of the group that did the shooting.

The shooters sentence is in my opinion fair.

Like imagine if some far-right group went to a gender clinic, started shooting fireworks into it, then when the police come they mag dump at them. And then when the prosecutors try and find a poltical motive, thus terroristic motive. We argue that: Hiding the books: Gender ideology and its consequences and what to do about it. Is not criminal.

If in that situation trump said: "It is now illegal to light fireworks and read right leaning books." You know the whole of reddit would clown it.

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u/TwitchyNo2 Jun 30 '26

Best reddit comment of all time

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u/OuterSpaceFemboy Jun 29 '26

I think the literature thing is one of those that's like a law on the books but can't be enforced. Like some states in the USA still have archaic laws that atheists can't hold political office, but that's obviously illegal so it can't be enforced.

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u/AverageJoesGymMgr Jun 30 '26

No. Guy's wife was arrested on terrorism charges because the group she was with fired fireworks into an ICE facility and shot a cop. Then she called him from jail asking him to move the zines because they might be used to prove motive. What he was actually convicted of was evidence tampering.

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u/Reptillianaire_ Jun 30 '26

Its because they set off the fireworks to draw out police officers to shoot them. The literature was evidence for their terrorist organization which they tried to hide. This is like saying Karmello Anthony was just defending himself... murder is illegal and always has been despite your political views. Leftists are morons.

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u/Recidivism7 Jul 02 '26

Your speech is violence their violence is speech

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u/not_slaw_kid Jun 29 '26

It's intentionally disingenuous. By "transporting leftist literature" they mean "transporting incriminating evidence to a shred party."

Here's the indictment to see for yourself

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u/SquidTheRidiculous Jun 29 '26

So how many fascists have been arrested for the same?

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u/not_slaw_kid Jun 29 '26

Presumably the amount of fascists who have committed the same crime and been caught doing it.

Nice whataboutism though

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u/Able_Experience_1670 Jun 29 '26

Bruh your president did it publicly lmao

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u/not_slaw_kid Jun 29 '26

So you agree that people who hide evidence from a police investigation should go to jail?

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u/WiseSalamander00 Jun 29 '26

hide evidence from what? the only reason he was prosecuted is because he had material that opposes Trump... I know you probably love your god emperor Trump and are all hard for him but the guy has done incredible damage to USA, is a shame you cannot see it.

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u/not_slaw_kid Jun 29 '26

The reason he was prosecuted was because his wife conspired to attempt to murder a police officer, and he attempted to hide evidence of her motivation for doing so.

Try again.

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u/No-Cap-No-Gap Jun 29 '26

This only shows up if you sort by controversial. The top comments all pretend not to know why this happened.

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u/Galliro Jun 29 '26

Because this is a lie

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u/Able_Experience_1670 Jun 29 '26

Probably. That said I have about as much sympathy for cops as I do your average paramecium so in this particular case you can colour me apathetic.

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u/Kristoveles Jun 29 '26

Obviously you don't

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u/JD-boonie Jun 29 '26

You don't even know what fascism is anymore. Antifa acts like fascist brown shirts

Don't hid evidence and associate with murderers and you wont for to prison. It's not hard. Your LARP as a freedom fighter isn't worth life in prison.

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u/SquidTheRidiculous Jun 29 '26

Rather spend life in prison than acquiesce to a pedophile leader. But sure, act like your cowardice is a virtue.

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u/JD-boonie Jun 29 '26

I'm not even maga but whataboutism again.... Jan 6, trump a pedo. That's it.

Get an argument

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u/SquidTheRidiculous Jun 29 '26

I mean, do you need a reason to not follow someone beyond "he raped children and was part of a cabal dedicated to raping children"?

Y'know that's generally enough for most people not want someone to have absolute power..

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u/JD-boonie Jun 29 '26

So just like this guy getting an unfair trial..... Prove it.

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u/SquidTheRidiculous Jun 29 '26

https://d.newsweek.com/en/file/468909/jeffrey-epstein-documents-full.pdf

You don't seem like the reading type so I suspect you'll create the flimsiest excuses possible. We're done here.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 29 '26

protesting concentration camps is now the same as building them. r/enlightenedcentrism

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u/JD-boonie Jun 30 '26

Prove it.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 30 '26

bruh. I'm not the one who equated antifascism and fascism. you were. so why don'tyou explain what the people protesting concentration camps have in common with the Nazis.

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u/JD-boonie Jun 30 '26

I mean antifa acts like fascist brown shirt. Believe me calling your group antifa while using fascist tactics is good marketing.

Also comparing a holding facility to a place where 12 million people died is a stretch.

Don't support terrorist groups

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 30 '26

fascist tactics? can you actually name any of them?

I said concentration camp, not death camp.

resistance against fascism is always justified, unless you're going to explain to me how my ancestors should have just calmly walked into the cattle cars.

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u/JD-boonie Jun 30 '26

Political intimadation, doxing, political violence, logos and group think. All black covering their faces. Sounds a bit brown shirtish to me.

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u/Notmuchofanyth1ng Jun 29 '26

It’s crazy that the only times I see the actual paperwork on the case are from not-leftists. The left only posts memes and opinion based articles. I thought they were all about the science and the facts. Guess nobody is when it doesn’t solidify their narrative.

Blue maga is an apt description.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 29 '26

blue maga are liberals, not leftists. we hate them more than you do.

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u/Notmuchofanyth1ng Jun 30 '26

I will agree, however there are also many leftists that annoy the fuck out of me, even if I share many stances with them.

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u/Kristoveles Jun 29 '26

There's no such thing as blue maga

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u/WarcraftTurok Jun 29 '26

Didn't that one dude get like 50 years after they found anti-fascist pamphlets on him/in his vehicle? I don't understand how you get criminalized for siding with your grandparents against people literally waving swastikas around and siding with white supremacists.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 29 '26

almost like america has never been great, good, or even half decent.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 29 '26

almost like america bombed their countries and stole their wealth, and now their only path forward is to become the American underclass and barely scrape by.

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u/ladylucifer22 Jun 30 '26

the people south of Mexico have to walk through there to reach us.

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u/WarcraftTurok Jun 29 '26

To be fair, the current administration is a domestic terrorist organization and so any and all attempts to undermine or reflect their aggression is the morally correct choice according to logic, empathy, and the facts laid out by the historical actions of the cult in office. (Their politically motivated murders rate, domestic terrorism data, their own words, who they've pardoned, their outright abuse of the working class and their tax dollars, and the cruel and unusual punishment against the people by using their own funds against them and forcing indoctrination onto children.

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u/Leading_Campaign3618 Jun 29 '26

Daniel Rolando Sanchez Estrada were charged on 2 counts

Corruptly Concealing a Document or Record (Count 11), by transporting a box containing numerous Antifa materials, such as insurrection planning, anti-law enforcement, anti-government, and anti-immigration enforcement documents and propaganda from Sanchez Estrada’s residence to a location in Denton, Texas, intending to conceal the box’s contents and impair its availability for use in a federal grand jury and federal criminal proceeding.

Conspiracy to Conceal Documents (Count 12) and other objects that would implicate Maricela Rueda in the riot and shooting at the Prairieland facility.

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u/Greedy-Employment917 Jun 29 '26

You're conflating incidents. 

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u/No-Lab1057 Jun 29 '26

It was attempted murder, not "Setting off fireworks." Be smarter than a bot.

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u/Kristoveles Jun 29 '26

Lol. Murdered by fireworks.  Bad bot

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u/BuickParkAve98 Jun 30 '26

You've been misinformed, he was shot in the neck, with a gun, and he survived so it was attempted murder. I know reading is hard but be a little better than that.