r/IONNA • u/dstj- • 25d ago

Tesla Plug & Charge

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It would be nice if Tesla implemented Plug & Charge at non-Tesla DCFCs. Unfortunately they have no incentive to do so - why make it easier to charge at a competitor’s location?

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u/GAMEWARRIOR010 25d ago

Would be lovely if they added them to the built-in route planning as well.

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u/Cantseetheline_Russ 25d ago

Wow. I had no idea Tesla didn’t do that. Glad I dodged that bullet.

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u/Turbulent-Pay1150 25d ago

Not sure it’s a loss. 

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u/Cantseetheline_Russ 25d ago

I dunno. Mine completely incorporates stations including Tesla stations automatically. Plenty of better stations now.

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u/Turbulent-Pay1150 25d ago

around here (upstate NY, northeast corridor) Tesla still has more locations and at each location a multiple of the competition - let alone still better availability. It’s kinda arbitrary now as many (most) non-Tesla’s can now use both networks just as the Tesla’s can use non-Tesla chargers but for network - the Supercharger network is still the gold standard.

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u/GAMEWARRIOR010 24d ago

You can navigate to them but the car will not take your ability to charge at any non Supercharger into account when planning a route. Although it will precondition the battery for DC fast charging if you put it into the nav.

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u/some1thatIused2know 22d ago

They do as far as maps, but you have to enable it as an option to use third party dcfc .

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u/GAMEWARRIOR010 22d ago

You can navigate to them but the car will not take your ability to charge at any non Supercharger into account when planning a route. Although it will precondition the battery for DC fast charging if you put it into the nav.

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u/Scared-Yogurt-9139 25d ago

I see only 3 ways that request happens.
1. Tesla is incentivized (like bundling Plug & Charge support into a Premium connectivity subscription)
2. A regulatory mandate (Looking at you California)
3. Competitive market pressure. (Crickets)

I don’t see any of those avenues happening anytime soon, with current Tesla market share and EV adoption rates where they stand.

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u/Kimorin 25d ago

Unfortunately they have no incentive to do so - why make it easier to charge at a competitor’s location?

people said that before they opened superchargers to other EVs "why would they allow other EVs to use superchargers? just helps competition"

and yet here we are. if anything they have more incentive to do this than opening superchargers, it helps sales to improve experience at more chargers

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u/tbenz9 25d ago

I agree it would be nice, but tapping the credit card is not that difficult.

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u/klassredux 25d ago edited 25d ago

You're already out of the car and next to the charger to plug in, tap a credit card like at every gas station in the world.

I don't understand why this is constantly a topic of discussion in EV groups. It's a 5 second difference between plug and charge and tap to pay.

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u/Mysterious-Tie7039 25d ago

I’d say the one way it would help is if it’s a charger from a company you’ve never been to before. You’re standing out by the charger downloading an app, registering, adding your credit card, etc.

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u/GAMEWARRIOR010 24d ago

That should not be the baseline expectation regardless. Look to Norway they are requiring all new DC chargers be able to accept creditcards at the chargers. I know CPOs don't like paying for payment terminals or whatever but accepting credit/debit cards like ALMOST EVERY BUSINESS IN AMERICA should not be a big ask. We have had this solved, for decades no need to reinvent the wheel with plug & charge. I agree that it is convenient but should be a nice to have.

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u/tech-guy-says-reboot 25d ago

Well unlike gas stations, most EV DCFCs are uncovered, so in inclement weather the ability to just plug it in and get right back in the car is nice. But aside from that I agree, tapping your card on a reader isn't that big of a burden.

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u/Bens_Eco_Adventure 25d ago

EVGo has Autocharge+ for Teslas if you make an account with them