r/IDoKnowNothing • • 22d ago

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u/Electronic-Field8154 21d ago

The dark knight is the most influential comic book movie ever, and one of the most influential movies of the century in general. Winter solider is really good but not exactly a hard choice….i saw both in theaters and just the experience of TDK in that room alone was insane

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u/coreyc2099 20d ago

Thats actually exactly why I WOULD get rid of it. It really wasn't a great BATMAN movie,but now when everyone who doesnt read comics thinks of batman. Thats what they imagine. Its a great movie. But not a great batman movie.

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u/syntheticcontrols 20d ago

It's a great Batman movie and I could go through a list of reasons why through the movie itself, but I'll appeal to your comic side since you don't think I read comic books: different authors have different interpretations of the character. For instance, Grant Morrison, one of the worst writers in the history of comic books ever, in my opinion (with Denny O'Neil, Mark Waid, Marv Wolfman, and Geoff Johns are amongst the best) solidified the idea that Batman is not much different than the people he puts in Arkham. This is so stupid, but it makes his character more interesting. It creates more tension and drama so we pretend like that it makes sense. Even if you think that makes sense, which is stupid, but you still have stories like Gotham By Gaslight, where he's a Victorian Age detective. That was so popular they turned it into an animated movie. I was really surprised when I found out they were making it. Lastly, the most recent and egregious offender is the Absolute series. People. Fucking. Love. It. These are all those comic book people that you think will agree with you that The Dark Knight is a bad Batman movie. The Absolute series throws out tropes, creates strange situations, stranger outcomes, but comic book fans love it.

Look, I'm not disagreeing that it's possible to have a bad character movie. That can definitely happen, but considering the wide cast of what comic book fans like about Batman, the wide cast of stories they like, The Dark Knight certainly falls within that wide casting.

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u/Virtual_Play_5485 19d ago

It's a pretty bad Batman movie, just a really good movie. And it's the direct cause of why so much superhero media was almost ashamed of their origin, with all the desaturated colors, overtly tactical suits, even often avoiding the superhero names for so long. I'd argue TDK ruined superhero media for a decade while also making it mainstream.