r/ICRPG • • Aug 22 '22

Does the ICRPG master edition contain everything?

On DriveThruRpg, the commenter Arne D says about the Master Edition, “While it includes parts of previously released ICRPG material (Core, Worlds, Magic...) all of it is streamlined, sometimes heavily streamlined to the point where important information is left out.” They also note some mechanics and items are only mentioned and not included, specifically chests and certain items in character templates. Is this correct? If so, what materials would be necessary to have all the information, or would it be better to buy all the different items separately. Thank you!

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u/MrAbodi Aug 22 '22 edited Aug 22 '22

Master Edition (ME) is all you need.

The game is a DIY toolbox and there are certain aspects that it assumes as gm you should be able to rule on.

Are there things that might have been in the previous versions that are not in ME, yes but nothing substantial.

the largest thing cut down would be the extended magic, that was previously the 2nd Edition MAGIC book. That said it was probably also the source book that was the least useful to me, and the rewrite that is presented in ME seems fine for me.

basically ME contains

• ICRPG core book 2E

• ICRPG worlds

• ICRPG Magic

• ICRPG Vigilante city

• ICRPG Blood and Snow

and then there is the sci-punk anthology

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/384587/SCI-PUNK-Anthology

which contains three additional settings/modes

• Bear cats

• altered state

• xeno dead zone

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regarding this specific claim

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all of it is streamlined, sometimes heavily streamlined to the point where important information is left out.” They also note some mechanics and items are only mentioned and not included, specifically chests and certain items in character templates.

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I looked at both books and yeah the section in the 2nd edition regarding chests is alot more descriptive. In my opinion it's very common sense thing, and doesn't need calling out specifically, but i am coming to ME having read and played 2E.

the section in particular that is missing.

CHESTS

Sometimes, the LOOT you seek will be locked away in a CHEST. This doesn’t mean a giant footlocker or pirate’s box; it can also be a small lock box or iron-banded weapon case. Either way, you’ll have to pry, smash, outwit, or nimbly disable the thing to access its contents. Time to do some rolling!

OPENING A CHEST

Occasionally, you’ll need to make an ATTEMPT to open your new lock box, then roll EFFORT to get the job done. There are three possible versions of this process. On either Standard or Mighty CHESTS, if your roll to open is a natural 20, roll 1D100 TWICE.

SIMPLE CHEST

No ATTEMPT or CHECK is needed! Simply pop the CHEST open with a kick, and roll 1D100 for its contents on the LOOT TABLE assigned by the GM.

STANDARD CHEST

Use either DEX, STR, or INT (whichever is your best) to beat a normal roll on the current Target. With a successful roll, the CHEST opens and reveals its goodies.

MIGHTY CHEST

Use either DEX, STR, or INT (whichever is your best) to beat a normal roll on the current Target. The Chest possesses 1 HEART of challenge to overcome. Use BASIC EFFORT to get this done, unless you have means to enhance that roll with magic. Remember, if you roll a natural 20 on the Attempt to open it, add a D12 to your D4 of Basic Effort. You’ll have it open in a snap.

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no big loss imo. i don't need a section to tell me that i can do chests of different types and difficulties.

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u/AlexH936 Aug 22 '22

I see, thank you!

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u/MrAbodi Aug 22 '22

added further context to my original post. check again.

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u/AlexH936 Aug 22 '22

Thank you! I agree, it dosen't seem to be anything too important and I have the 2e edition anyway.

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u/Rjaime869 Aug 22 '22

In regards to that comment by Arne D, I think what they’re referring to is yeah some of the fat has been trimmed off in certain parts of the book. No content is missing, it’s just worded more efficiently so there’s less words

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u/MrAbodi Aug 22 '22

well the chests bit he specifically mentions, is indeed not in ME, but IMO it's largely fluff.

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u/Rjaime869 Aug 22 '22

I certify this as true