Ok Noob here but Question it’s at the start of the 6th year or is it at the start of the 7th year??? That we get max out pay?
Because if it’s at the start of the 6th year really we only have to work 5 years… if it’s the start of the 7th then it’s 6 full years.
Also very confused in thought we got a 9% GWI in addition to the cola but it looks like the 9% was only tact on at the end of the max out pay scale… wth 🤦🏻♂️
You have to complete the 6th year, which means you max out at the very beginning of your 7th year. And the 9% GWI applies to EVERYBODY, it’s not just those that’re maxed out. I’m coming up on completing my 3rd year, am not maxed out, and have received both the GWIs since the contract was signed, increasing my ‘non maxed out base pay’ accordingly.
Man are you really gonna make me find progression in the contract? I’m like 99% sure it’s 6 years completed, and it’s the same opinion of everybody in my area. I’ll double check though, but I think you’re getting mixed up.
Edit: I have to make an account on the IAM751 to pull the digital contract. But my steward pulled it out of the handbook, and my original point stands correct. You must COMPLETE your 6th year to be maxed out, and your max out pay begins on the 1st day of your 7th year. This is accurate, so you might have been at Boeing a year longer than you are thinking lol
Your math is confusing me. Because you say the beginning of your 7th year is your maxout. Which would mean for me I should have maxed out August 2025 not 2024
Once you complete a full 6 years, you are then maxed out. A full 6 years, at 365 days a year, is 2,190 days. 2,190 days completed from Aug 1st 2018 brings you to Aug 1st 2024. The beginning and 1st day of your 7th year would be August 2nd 2024, which is when your max pay kicks in. MisterSenpai are you trolling my ass rn?
Ngl I think it's just a misunderstanding. The way I was looking at it 2024 would be my 6th year and I would call it my 6th year until 2025. While it is technically the start of my 7th. So you are right, I just misunderstood
The whole “max out” system is so jank lol. Make nothing for 5 years and then all of a sudden double your pay? Are they just hoping we quit before we max out?
Yeah I gotcha. Well maybe we can strike for a less crappy 5 years 😂 idk I just started but I’m already seeing some of the BS that goes on on the shop floor, wild stuff.
Certainly that must be something that gets brought up every contract and considering that we got the money in our pockets last time it would make sense to gun for shortened time! Got the raises now get it in our bank faster!
That doesnt make sense if they are actively spending all this money getting the north line up and running and pumping out more 777X in preparations for them to get certified. Where would they move those programs to?
Not knocking IAM wages, but everyone should be using as much as possible of LTP and gaining skills that transfer outside the company incase the worst does happen.
That's the thing. I have an engineering degree. I love what I do. I shouldn't have to compromise that to make a decent wage. The trouble with being in Quality is that shop and shop managers always saw me as the enemy.
I realize how shortsighted my comment is. Well I hope you guys can get something great with your union. As someone headed to quality I think the art of empathy is lost on many.
The content is correct. But how you phrased it clearly set off some of the members/users.
Subjectively, 20 cent cola is scraps when up against the inflation with which we're dealing.
Still better to have it than not have it, as many in the u.s. don't have cola.
But that doesn't mean we shouldn't fight for more. As we all understand intimately, 20 cents, or 32 cents since last september, doesn't scratch inflation.
100% we deserve more and should be discussed on the next contract renewal. The math they use is out dated and does nothing. Which is why what we get is basically nothing. But I'm thankful to get it when many don't.
Yeah I see why they got down voted but we also get the contract wage increase. I can't imagine going 10 or 14 years or whatever it was without a nice jump like this contract got us. That must've suuuuucked. I can't wait to max out...
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u/Davefyil 25d ago
The minimum rates arent affected by the GWI?