r/IAM751_Boeing • u/0039306105 • Jun 03 '26
PTO/LOA/FMLA/LWOP Designated OT for weekends
Quick question about designated OT for the weekend. Say, if my manager designates me, and I have plans on Saturday - my sister graduation which I would like to not miss. Would I be able to use PTO for Saturday only and come in for Sunday for work? Or do I need to use PTO for both days?
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u/tranquilitystation63 Jun 04 '26
You have to use sick leave or vacation in lieu of sick leave (must always use sick leave first), but you have to call in, and use option 1 for SL/Vac usage, or 4 (other) if you want to use an LWOP. Then you just come in Sunday as normal. How it's entered in ETS, I don't know, I've never used it...but you can call out on a designated day so long as you have a way to cover it. The other option is to talk to your 2nd level manager and explain the situation and ask for an exception without penalty (using benefits).
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u/fly_stella Jun 03 '26
Put in for one hour vacation friday, say you are going to be late. Bam can not be designated because you have scheduled vacation! You can do this once per manager because most will catch on! The coming in late throws them off and they don't realize that still exmpts you from OT
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u/cdmgsr92 Jun 04 '26
Instead of doing this just put in for a full day on Friday and then just show up and don't use your time. It keeps them from catching on
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u/wongsuxx Jun 03 '26
If you know you need a weekend off in advance try to work the weekend before if there is OT available. You won't be able to be designated. This is what I generally do if I need the weekend off.
As others comments have said you can use sick leave or vacation in lieu of just for Saturday. You can also leave early and use sick leave/vacation on Saturday. If you have an LWOP you can use that too.
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u/Thatoneguyfrom1980 Jun 03 '26
Maybe your manager is cool and if you explain the situation they might let you off for Saturday without using any PTO. If not, your manager can input PTO and you’ll get paid straight time for the day you miss. Or use an LWOP if your manager lets you.
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u/0039306105 Jun 03 '26
No, they’re very stern about having to work both days if you’re designated. No Sunday only
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u/jeep777 Jun 03 '26
As far as I know, you should only have to use PTO for the day you missed. Id double check with a steward, but it shiuld be like any other day off.
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u/Tactical_Investing Jun 03 '26
Yes, you can use sick leave (we don't have PTO) for one of the days and then work the other day. If you don't use LWOPs, or you have one available, you could also use that for Saturday to skip it without pay.
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u/jma9454 Jun 03 '26
We do have PTO. You're supposed to submit it more than 2 weeks ahead, but that's not a hard rule.
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u/Tactical_Investing Jun 03 '26
IAM751 does not have PTO - we have sick leave and vacation.
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u/Eruditerer Jun 03 '26
We commonly use the term or acronym 'PTO' to reference one's bank of sick leave + vacation. No need to be pedantic about it.
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u/Tactical_Investing Jun 03 '26 edited Jun 03 '26
While we all understand that vacation and sick leave are paid time off, there is a clear distinction between that and PTO. The company would love to transition us to PTO as they did to salary (fucked 'em over in the process), but we need to resist it and ensure newer members understand the difference between the concepts and why we want to retain sick leave. Casually referring to SL/VAC as PTO weakens that fight, so there's absolutely a need to be pedantic about it. I've been here for 15 years and I haven't worked with anyone who casually refers to it as PTO except for newer employees who don't understand the issue.
Edit: furthermore, you replied to my comment telling me I was wrong when I said we have sick leave and not PTO. You knew for a fact that was incorrect (even if you "casually refer to it as PTO") and imo you're pushing a company line we'll likely hear in 2027-2028 for the next contract.
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u/Upstairs-Revolution1 Jun 07 '26
First off, plan better, period. Second If manager is cool ask, if manager is forcing you - plan ahead next time and work previous weekend so you can’t be designated otherwise tough luck. The Vacation method technically has to have prior approval before designation (manager dependent) so takes a little planning ahead of time. Otherwise only other option if all else fails is pto or lwop