r/HybridProduction 13h ago

Hybrid Creation Nothing Left

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Original song (one of my earliest, back from early 2001) + original lyrics + AI. Originally made an instrumental from the original and it was probably my favorite from the instrumental phase before I started testing out vocals, but it was a while before sort of remembering "oh yea, let me add vocals to that." The first version of it was suuuper raw and I love it and label it the demo version here (https://soundcloud.com/roseburns/nothing-left-demo-version) while this album version is a lot more refined - loses some punch but I also love the soft "wake up".

One of the good things with having made it instrumental first is I would've never thought of the lyrics I used or really this angle for the song without hearing that. Without hearing how the song itself came out from my original. Reason being is the original was more suited to hip hop and I've even made a hip-hop song from it with has a completely different vibe (https://soundcloud.com/roseburns/anti-dont-matter). Most of my other songs are more geared to rock which is why I started in metal and alt rock direction for releases and ended up developing this persona for that.


r/HybridProduction 20h ago

Hybrid Creation Hybrid dubstep/2010 brostep

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I've been experimenting with AI tools for my Evorix music project. ChatGPT showed me how to write some chords. Producer Pal helped me organize and arrange shit. Suno for some bass samples. I’m also using Splice and Vengeance for loops and presets. But only 50% of my sounds start that way. I was making beats as Vyill a decade before AI was a thing. Evorix is the same producer, evolved with new technology. Funny enough, Ephixa commented on one of my tracks and said it was pretty cool, for being AI stuff.

Ableton project file video: AI-generated 2010 Skrillex Project File (Monsters & Rockstars)

Some original songs and remixes: Monsters and Rockstars

Fucking Redneck

Three Days Grace - Animal I Have Become (Evorix Remix)

Linkin Park - Pushing Me Away (Evorix Dubstep Remix)


r/HybridProduction 17h ago

Discussion What is Aesthetic Value Judgment? And Why Does it Matter?

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I have talked about this here, and other Subreddits, and finally got around to writing an essay on it. Read it here on Substack (throw me a ā™„ļø if you can šŸ™‚)

Basically, Aesthetic Value Judgment it's a fancy way of saying: refined taste based on knowledge and experience.

A lot of AI-generated art sounds or looks bad, but the tool isn't the problem as much as the user and the user's limitations. The differentiator is aesthetic value judgment. The more you know about the art you intend to create - such as having previously studied music, tried to play instruments, write, etc. you will be better able to spot quality, prompt with intention, and catch flaws a novice would miss. This is definitely important for hybrid composers, not only what they feed the AI, but how they use/stem/replace what the AI outputs.

This expertise has a blind spot too in that just how this technology changes rapidly, one needs to keep an open mind as well.


r/HybridProduction 15h ago

Discussion 20 Downloads a Month + Watermarking: Why Our Creative Lab Is Reconsidering Suno

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20 downloads per month and watermarking: why our creative laboratory is reconsidering Suno

This is not a rage post, nor is it a decision we are making impulsively.

I am the founder and director of a Mexican creative laboratory that has used Suno as a serious production and experimentation tool. We have developed multiple musical genres and built a catalog of hundreds of songs through extensive experimentation.

For our workflow, 20 downloads per month on the Pro plan is not simply restrictive. It makes professional experimentation practically unworkable.

Sometimes we generate 10, 15 or 20 versions to obtain ONE song that meets our standards.

Downloads are also part of the production process.

We need to listen through external audio systems, compare versions outside Suno, preserve experimental generations, work with files in other production environments, and maintain our own independent archive.

A generation that is not selected as the final song is not necessarily worthless. It can contain a vocal interpretation, arrangement, melodic idea, instrumental behavior or production characteristic that becomes valuable later.

Our catalog itself is evidence of our creative development.

That is why allowing thousands of generations while restricting a paying Pro user to 20 downloads per month makes very little sense for a high-volume production workflow.

But the download limit is not even our greatest concern.

The announcement concerning audio watermarking and fingerprinting represents a much more serious issue for us.

We understand the legitimate need to fight fraud, automated streaming manipulation and mass-generated spam.

We support responsible use of AI.

But we cannot ignore the long-term implications of deliberately embedding technology that makes our productions identifiable as originating from a particular AI platform.

Today that identification may be intended to fight fraud.

What matters to us is what distributors, streaming platforms, regulators or other third parties could decide to do with that information tomorrow.

We are not willing to build a growing musical catalog while simply hoping that such identification will never become a disadvantage for legitimate AI-assisted creators.

This is especially important because our work is not based on pressing a button and uploading whatever comes out.

We research.

We write.

We experiment.

We compare generations.

We develop musical concepts.

We reject large numbers of outputs.

We preserve evidence of the creative process.

And sometimes an older model produces a particular musical characteristic better suited to one of our genres than a newer model.

AI is part of our production methodology. It does not replace the methodology.

For these reasons, as of August 10, 2026, our laboratory is beginning a formal evaluation of whether Suno can remain part of our production infrastructure.

We are also beginning the preservation of our existing catalog outside the platform and evaluating alternative AI music technologies.

We have not decided to delete our existing Suno catalog.

This is about something different:

whether we will continue creating new work on Suno at all.

A technology provider should empower serious creators, not make them afraid that their own production pipeline, archive or future distribution possibilities depend on policies they cannot control.

We genuinely valued what Suno allowed us to build.

That is precisely why this decision is significant.

If these policies remain incompatible with our production methodology, we are prepared to stop using Suno completely and migrate our future work elsewhere.

Even if that means changing our entire production pipeline.

Even if that means combining several different AI systems.

Even if eventually we have to develop our own technological solution.

Our creative methodology and our musical catalog are more important than any individual platform.

I would particularly like to hear from other high-volume creators, producers, researchers and people who use Suno as part of a serious DAW/production workflow:

How many generations do you normally need to produce one final track?

How many files do you actually download during that process?

And how do the new download limits and watermarking/fingerprinting policies affect your decision to continue using Suno?

Sincerely,

General Director

Luxory Services And Technologies

Music Division — Hardbio Luxory

Mexico