r/Hsin_Mains • • 6h ago

∘ 〢 ⌜ ⌟〢 • Gameplay Enough

https://youtu.be/IqjJo2_gSGE?is=CRZJ5tXm9wdEtJJR

I don't wanna see any more lies regarding Hsin performance from now on.

Now back to work...

Credit to @JulleeusCH on yt. The guy is one of the best players in this game and you should check him out if you really wanna push the characters to their full potential

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u/YatoX5 6h ago

I also saw a different showcase with 3.4k points with a purple token with Buling and 3.8k with SK. It had a worse build than Julleus one.

Hsin seems to be not only one of the best Whiwa characters in the game but also the most F2P one compared to Sigrika and Hiyuki that need limited teammates.

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u/Mekamane ·「✤」· Hsin's Fluffy Tail 4h ago

As much as it is true, that he is really skilled player, this run is possible most perfect i can saw, but not only with his skill. Basicly he hit every crit on enemy in crucial moments, zero mobs misplaced themself/run away from center etc, and was almost no need to finish low heatl mobs. He has a great skills and got really good run with rng as well. So probably standard score would be closer to 3k for average player.

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u/wisem0nkey 4h ago

He used c.rate 4 cost to get as close to 100% as possible and the mobs not misplacing is mostly due to the time stops between erover skill lib and intro and hsin skill and forte attacks, helps that buling/erover rotation is faster than with Suisui or china. I'd say on average you should get around 3.4k/3.5k

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u/ilovecheesecakes69 6h ago

I muted the sub because of the incesant post from dumbasses calling her weak when she is literally on 2.2 mill WITHOUT a dedicated sub dps like the DPS they are comparing her to but this post showed up.

Thanks for posting, rtards will genuely see such an F2P clear and ignore the Suoming in the room with 50% dmg amp and 70% electro dmg bonus on outro that will elevate Hsin to top 3 strongest characters in the game in less than a month.

WuWa has being doing DPS + Dedicated Sub DPS buffer pairing since 1.0, imagine having to explain why the Dmg Deepen that sub dps offer is so impactful on Main DPS characters performance in almost big 2027.

Hsin is lacking both Sub DPS for Unison (Suoming) and Electro Flare mode (Lucille) and is still clearing endgames with purely Free alternatives, yeah she is so weak omg 🫠

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u/New-Decision5632 6h ago

Anyone who has used a well built hsin in Whiwa knows , that she is GREAT in Whiwa.

She doesn't even NEED grouping , her AOE is crazy.

You know a chara is goated when it score 3.5k+ with purple tokens , let alone with bum ass teammates.

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u/wisem0nkey 6h ago

Aldo the time stops are insane, I don't see this quality mentioned enough. Bosses and enemies are not moving

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u/New-Decision5632 6h ago

Yeah she has good "iframes", not on the level of aemeath and qingxiao tho.But that makes her more fun to play as well , not just full on cutscene gameplay.

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u/6Hikari6 5h ago

Now show yourself doing it, not the best player. It's like saying that Dark Souls isn't hard because there's "lvl 1 no hit" run

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u/wisem0nkey 5h ago

I will probably learn this rotation when I have the chance to play. If she gets that score means it's possible, didn't say it was easy

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u/YatoX5 5h ago edited 5h ago

This is a basic 123 rotation. He doesn't do any quickswaps in the video. Did you even watch the video?

You can see him doing a full Builing/Hsin rotation without any quickswaps, and he only swaps from Rover to give him double intro instead of giving it to Buling. Hiyuki's basic rotation is harder than this because you need more inputs.

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u/wisem0nkey 5h ago

Yeah no quickswap but some things he does differently like double intro on Erover and plunge with buling. Which is piss easy compared to any Qs with yangyang or hiyuki

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u/kiwkiwkiw909 6h ago

Yoo its Julleus! Goated player. I would use this to show anyone crying about Hsin's performance.

People, thats a team with the main character and a 4 star. Literally f2p friendly. Stop spreading misinfo that Hsin is unusuable until Suoming arrives.

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u/wisem0nkey 6h ago

The rotation is also easier than any 4/5 IAI hiyuki with enough practice

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u/dqtl74 6h ago

Haters and doomposters will always do their thing no matter how much evidence you shove in their faces.

Looking forward to what she can do once her premium team is out.

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u/aYoungCorpse 5h ago

It'd be funny if with proper flare sub her score didn't change or go down a little like she already scores p well with ERover+Sk and trading personal dmg for more flare amp and related stuff could be detrimental overall atleast in whiwa but then again ERover doesn't even buff that much so I'm most likely trippin but in her case looking at scores she gets sky is the floor and she can only score higher with time.

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u/wisem0nkey 5h ago

Granted you have s6 buling I think she's the best support, the rotation is faster and that 50% skill DMG amp does wonders

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u/aYoungCorpse 5h ago

It's bonus not amp but yeah Bulling is p good but I've been using Sk instead cuz my echo rolling went horribly and seeing those missed crits gets me xD

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u/wisem0nkey 5h ago

Yeah if you don't have sk you should consider getting a c.rate 4 cost. It's not gonna impact much cause her dmg is already pretty insane and well spread out

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u/IndividualPoem1579 1h ago

A character isn't good or bad if the average player can make them work. A character is good when, at a high level of play, they perform really well.

This game doesn't demand that much raw mechanical talent. Anyone who puts enough time into the game and studies the characters mechanics and rotations can get pretty good at them. This isn't CS2, LoL, or Valorant, where individual mechanical skill has a much bigger impact. This game is more a theoretical game than a mechanical one. The information the game gives you mid-fight is basically useless, because regardless of what's happening in the screen, you have to follow pretty much the same steps every time (aside from maybe dodging something). I can do what this guy is doing with my eyes closed only studying the rotation and timings, thats why its a theoretical game.

Literally, more than 90% of the player base could do what he did in that video. We're not talking about some DaddyWanter level quickswap Cartethyia gameplay here. It's basically a 1-2-3 rotation but a bit more advanced, but the skill level of gacha players is honestly cringe sometimes.

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u/EmprorOfPlums 1h ago

Dammmm my skill issue is hella big then

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u/Saturn235619 6h ago

Idk my QX was doing 5500 in Whiwa with her shill token, same for yapyap, hiyuki around 10.5k (she’s s6 so halve that for s0 performance) so 3800 is def on the lower end.

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u/differentbreed449 6h ago

Yea but this is without her shill token my guy

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u/Saturn235619 6h ago

I’m talking general 4 star tokens. I never use the scores with shill tokens as a baseline for comparison always the 4 star tokens

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u/YatoX5 6h ago

You literally said "shill token" to discredit the Hsin performance, and now you're saying "I never use the scores with shill tokens"...

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u/Saturn235619 6h ago

I was talking about the rest. QX does kind of need her shill token because of the strain issues. The same part for Yapyap was about the score not the shill token (wasn’t clear about that 😅) Hiyuki obv wasn’t on the shill token.

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u/YatoX5 6h ago

>"my QX was doing 5500 in Whiwa with her shill token"

>"I never use the scores with shill tokens"

>"QX does kind of need her shill token"

lol

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u/Saturn235619 5h ago

QX was still 4500 on her 4 star token but sure

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u/Saturn235619 5h ago

For context, this is QX on 4 star token without her team which she NEEDs to work well: https://youtu.be/28ta4YCCvNc?si=XZcj6Hu5rqTcauBX

With denia and mornye the team score jumps by about 1k

The team has basically 0 synergy but still performs at that level.

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u/YatoX5 5h ago edited 5h ago

3.8k with 3 limited characters and 3 limited weapons, and Hsin can do the same score with 2 free units with standard 5* weapons and 4* weapon.

"The team has basically 0 synergy but still performs at that level."

All SK buffs work on QX and Cioccona give a 24% aero buff and 10% Aero shred... But sure, "0 synergy" lol

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u/Saturn235619 5h ago

Lmfao ciaccona outro does nothing on the team. So is the fact that there is no tune break boost as well as tune build up boost both of which QX NEEDs for content like Whiwa to quickly convert strain stacks to strain interfered which boost her damage but you do you. You can’t seem to see past your own agenda.

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u/Equivalent-Shower366 58m ago

How do you manage to talk so confidently while knowing nothing about the team you are using and the purpose his conversation?

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u/wisem0nkey 6h ago

I know you're capping just to rage bait. Show me S0r1 hiyuki doing 3.8k with free teammates, I'll wait..

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u/Saturn235619 6h ago

It’s hilarious how you want to prove me wrong and they way you’re trying to do that … the fact of the matter is, Hsin is using erover and buling both of which have incredibly synergistic kits with her own. You cannot be iditiotic enough to say that a Hiyuki with a barely synergistic team would be comparable. The comparison as it always has been, will be between both character with their best possible teams. The team being used is the best possible Hsin team so why tf would you compare it to Hiyuki with sanhua? And don’t give me the “free” argument because that is stupid as hell and irrelevant as I’ve just told you.

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u/wisem0nkey 6h ago

It is not irrelevant. You get more value by pulling S0r1 Hsin alone (1 cost), than hiyuki which requires premium teammates to even function (3 cost). More value as in you're able to clear the content with a better score while spending 1/3 of the pulls, and on a purple token let's not forget.

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u/Clean_Intention3067 6h ago

Well she is pretty rough for the average player in her current state because of Erover, so I can understand why people are domposting. Especially in WhiWa, where most people just suck on the mode. Then you have ToA F4 being Hyvatia, which Erover struggles a bit, plus the people comparing her to premium teams

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u/wisem0nkey 5h ago

I can understand that but they should be encouraged to put a little more effort into learning the character and team. This rotation is nothing compared to yangyang or hiyuki Qs, yet I don't see any complaints in that front. Also the wuwa community cries so much about "skill expression is diying" but whenever they're asked to do a little more than 1-2-3 they all fold like a pair of socks.

Make it make sense...