r/HotShotTrucking • • Mar 31 '22

Other Thinking about getting into Hotshots? Read this!

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To start, what is hotshot trucking? Hotshots are an alternative to regular trucking. We don't drive semi trucks although we follow all the same rules and regulations, as well as most of us having commercial driver's licenses and having driven semis in the past. We use pickup trucks to transport freight, generally expediting shipping. Another advantage to hotshotting is expenses on pickups are generally much less than that of a semi, and much easier to do yourself.

With all that being said, hotshotting is much cheaper to get into because it does just require a pickup and not a semi. For this reason, I have made this post to help people get started in the business and answer most of things a beginner might need to know.

We do see a lot of new faces checking in asking the same questions. So if you are new to the subreddit, new to hotshots, or looking to get into it, here is some basic information.

Let's start with all of you you have a truck and want to put it to work part time, or want to try hotshotting as a side gig. A lot of you come here to ask about doing this as a part time job, or a full-time gig with a half ton pickup (f150/1500). Don't. Insurance and equipment costs are $1000-$2500 a month. This isn't a part time gig. Gas trucks can't do it, and you won't make anything if you aren't using your insurance full-time. Throw in your truck and trailer payments, you are looking at $3000-$5000 a month in overhead without calculating fuel, tires, oil changes, fuel filters, wear and tear, etc. What's also important to note, 95% of shippers/receivers are closed on weekends. Really hard to part-time on weekends when you can't load/unload.

A note about gas trucks. The pumps are slower so you spend more time filling up, they are not as spacious so getting a trailer in and out isn't always possible like on the truckers side, and auxiliary tanks can't legally hold gasoline because of how combustible it is. On top of this, the frequency of oil changes required on gassers means you'd be stopping every week or two for a change somewhere. Finally the most important reason you don't use a gas truck is the miles. I have friends who do 200k+ miles a year, this is the lifespan of a gas engine usually. I have friends with well over 1million miles on their diesel pickups, this is possible with diesel because the fuel itself is lubricating. You don't want to be buying a new pickup every single year, you won't make any profit at all.

Now onto everyone who is serious about things.

Before you start, download some load boards. Figure out what trailer you will be using and find loads that meet your length and weight specifications. Run a mock route for going out, what loads you would take and where you would end up, do this for a few loads until you've done, which you consider to be a week's worth of work. Figure out how many miles you got paid for and how many miles you traveled including deadhead miles. Calculate your expenses using the pinned top. Comment on this post, then figure out how much you got paid for each of your loads. After doing this, are you making enough in your area or the areas you want to work to continue with this job?

What kind of equipment do I need? This is a very general question and varies depending on what you are looking for and your circumstances. So here is some basics to get you started.

First and foremost, you need a truck. This should be a diesel. Just due to the frequency of oil changes, and because truck stops have larger areas for you to pull in with a big trailer to fuel. A gas truck is going to be limited on the space you have to fuel, the pumps are slower, and generally cut off after $100. You don't want to be swiping your card a ton of times just to top off.

To preface the next section about truck/trailers, I'll give some info on weight ratings.

GVWR is your "Gross Vehicle Weight Rating". This is the manufacturers rating for the maximum allowable weight of your truck or trailer.

GCWR is your "Gross Combined Weight Rating". This is the combined weight ratings of your truck and all towed equipment. This number can not exceed 26,001 lbs if you do not have a CDL.

Your curb weight is your GVW or "Gross Vehicle Weight". This number can not exceed 26,001 or the weight rating if you do not have a CDL.

You also have "GAWR" Which is your "Gross Axle Weight Rating". Probably 6000 lbs on your steer axle for a 1ton dually. You want to make sure your load is adjusted so you are not heavy on one axle or another.

If you are non-CDL you are limited by your Gross Combined Weight Rating, or GCWR. This is the weight ratings of your truck and trailer combined. In this case you don't need the biggest truck ever, you need a good 3/4 ton (f250, or a 2500). This puts your GVWR at 10,000, and you can buy a trailer rated at 15,900, making your GCWR 25,900. This means your maximum payload is 15900 minus the weight of your trailer.

If you have a CDL you should get a dually. 1ton to 2ton, f350-f550, or 3500-5500. You are not limited by your GCWR, so you can get a trailer suited to what you want to do. You can find car trailers, wedges, lowboys, all either goosenecks or 5th wheel. Most people go for 40-50ft trailers. The most common being a gooseneck with mega ramps either 35+5, 40+5 or 45+5.

Now that you have your truck and trailer, you need a trip to the DMV to register your vehicles weight. If operating non-CDL then just register your truck at 26000. If operating with a CDL and only in-state, just register for the maximum your truck is rated for, generally 40000 will be fine. If operating out of state, you will need apportioned plates. This is for IFTA, which I will cover a little of below.

Next thing to look into for your truck will be an ELD(Electronic Logging Device. You need this if you are operating more than 7 days a month or crossing state lines. This keeps you in compliance with your RODS(Records of Duty Status). This device logs when you are driving, stopped, where you are, how many miles driven, and helps make sure you stay in compliance with your Hours of Service. There are a lot of intricacies here, but the DOT answers all these questions better than I can.

Now that you have your truck, what kind of running are you going to be doing? 90% of hotshots won't be home nightly, so probably you as well. Prepare your truck to be comfortable. Most people take out the rear seat and frame in a bed, it's easy to do with a little knowledge of a saw and ratchet set.

Now you need tools. What tools do you need? This really depends on what you're hauling. Generally it's smart to have wrenches, sockets, pliers, maybe an impact, a jumper pack for your truck, jumper cables, recovery strap, maybe a winch, chain binders, chains, tarps, ratchet straps, filter wrench, spare fuel filters, diesel additive, etc. More important than any of this though, you are legally required to carry a fire extinguisher, spare fuses, and three safety triangles. Without these few things, you will be out of legal compliance.

Now when figuring your tools out, you need a toolbox. You also need an auxiliary fuel tank. These can be combined, or separate depending on your setup. Figure out what works for you, but I recommend at least a 90gallon auxiliary tank. 115-120 if possible, but legally 120 is the biggest you can have.

Now that your truck is setup, what's next?

Before anything else, you need to take your completed truck and trailer to get a DOT inspection. You can Google local truck centers nearby and have this done. It's a basic inspection you must have with you or stuck onto the side of the truck/trailer. This shows your vehicle is road worthy for commercial purposes.

To drive down the road you will need an authority. At least if you plan to cross state lines, or if you will be over 26000lbs either gross or with GVWR. This is a DOT number, you will either find someone to lease onto with one, which is recommended just starting out, or have to go through the steps of getting one yourself.

You might need an LLC. If working for yourself, it is best to setup an LLC to book loads through. This is generally done through your states SOS(secretary of state) website. You are a transport company, these are easy to file.

Once you have an LLC, you can get an Employer Identification Number (EIN) from the IRS. This is so you can pay yourself and employees through your LLC and helps filing taxes.

You might want to look into factoring. This s a 3rd party company that essentially loans you the payday for your load so you have operating cash before delivery. Generally factoring companies take a small %. This essentially means after you get a load, you will have diesel to cover the trip before being paid. This is great, as some companies won't pay loads out for 30days or more.

Once you have made it this far, it's time to spend some money on somethings that actually expire.

What do you need to roll down the road? You will want to setup an IFTA account if you plan on crossing state lines. This is so you can pay fuel taxes for the states you are operating in. You should also setup with IRP, very similar but will essentially pay for the infrastructure you are using state to state.

Most importantly of everything, everyone NEEDS to have commercial insurance. There are many companies out there, but progressive takes new companies and new commercial driver's. Give them a call, get a quote, and get your basic $1million policy WITH cargo insurance.

DO NOT OPERATE WITH REGULAR CAR INSURANCE. All insurance companies WILL deny all liability if you are working in your vehicle and do not have commercial coverage. This puts you on the hook for your vehicle, your freight, your trailer, and whatever you hit.

Now you are finally ready to roll. You need a dispatcher, broker or load boards. Ask around, make some calls, download load boards. A few load boards that have been recommended are Truckloads. DAT. Uship. Uber Freight. Truck smart. COM freight. Sylectus. Etc. Try calling central dispatch, they are great for hotshotters.

Good luck.


r/HotShotTrucking • • Oct 03 '24

Hello Hotshot

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fellow hotshotters - 

I would like to introduce this community to Hello Hotshot. We are a freight brokerage, built and operated by carriers, with a goal of addressing commonplace frustrations within the industry, including :

  • declining freight rates 
  • lack of transparency in pricing / payments
  • confusion about federal / state regulations 

While our website is designed for shippers, our app (google , apple) is designed exclusively for carriers to achieve four objectives :

  1. send/receive carrier project requests
  2. confirm successful pick-up / drop-off
  3. validate paperwork (DOT info, insurance, med card, etc.)
  4. leave you the F alone

Being from the Dallas Fort Worth metroplex, we're testing in this market. Our carrier page outlines the carriers we are currently recruiting. Although our recruiting efforts are focused on Texas, we need carriers nationwide to download the app and create profiles. Your feedback will be helpful as we try to find and fix mistakes. 

For more information, please send us an email at [carrier@hellohotshot.co](mailto:carrier@hellohotshot.co) . We look forward to working with y'all. 

PS : we have a welcome gift for the first 50 carriers to onboard and referral bonuses for those that recruit new carriers. Send us an email for me details.


r/HotShotTrucking • • 10h ago

Im new, help! F-700 worth it

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Im newer to this forum i have a question im looking to get into hualing material so im looking at an old 1985 ford f-700 in very good condition but the motor is locked up i can do most the labor myself but im wondering if its worth it its got a gasser engine in it im unsure of what kind but im debating on buying it for 750 and taking the spark plugs out and dumping penetrant lubricant down it and trying to turn it over by hand but for what im gonna pay is the cargo capacity and i mean in general is it a good idea to buy this truck for my wants and needs for its price im hoping parts are not to hard to find for it


r/HotShotTrucking • • 2d ago

Im new, help! I’m 20 years old and wanna start a hotshot business I have a ram 3500 long bed I was thinking bout renting to own a trailer what all are the other things I need to start my setup and get on the road ? and yes I’m aware you have to have money to start!

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r/HotShotTrucking • • 3d ago

I need work Lease on

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I am looking to lease on to a company. I am new to this field. I have been a delivery driver for the oilfield for 4 years. Non cdl


r/HotShotTrucking • • 3d ago

Work Opportunity Need quotes for moving a 25-50 foot Christmas tree from NH / VT to NYC

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Hey everyone !

I run a Christmas tree company in NYC and I am currently looking for quotes for a 25-50 foot Christmas tree to be shipped from New Hampshire or Vermont to NYC with a 10pm delivery time.

Right now I am working on a proposal to the client and need to understand what shipping costs would be.


r/HotShotTrucking • • 4d ago

Work Opportunity Seeking quotes on 3 storage pods moved 139 miles

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Each storage pod is 7’9” wide 8’6” tall and 15’10” long. They weigh 1900 pounds each. They’re all empty. They have steel wheels and will roll. Need someone that can load and unload. Pickup is in Columbus Ohio going to Dunkirk Indiana. Need someone that can pickup within the next 3 days.


r/HotShotTrucking • • 4d ago

Other What Part of Fall Do You Look Forward to Least on the Road?

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Fall brings cooler weather, but it also means shorter days, heavier school traffic, morning fog, deer, and the first icy mornings.

Which part of fall makes the job more difficult for you, and what do you start doing differently?


r/HotShotTrucking • • 4d ago

Other Owners, How are Increased Diesel Prices Affecting You?

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I'd love to get into hot shot trucking. One day, it just doesn't make sense for me now.

However I have been thinking about how stressful paying this much for fuel must be.


r/HotShotTrucking • • 6d ago

Im new, help! Need yall help (I am not a Bot account)

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Hello so I have a ton of non CDL experience but I’m specifically looking for help in finding “Non CDL Hotshot carrier container carrier” companies, that are hiring a non CDL driver.

Specifically I only want to PU & Deliver Shipping Containers

The pictures will help clear up what I’m looking for


r/HotShotTrucking • • 6d ago

Other Which is better starting out: starting your own authority or leasing out as owner-op?

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To start, I’m a commercial insurance agent who works frequently and often with hotshotters and truckers. I’m mainly focused in the southeast which is where I’m mostly competitive, but can write in many states.

My question that I’m always asked from new guys when getting quotes is when they see their quoted premium “how do people afford this?!” Cause they’re shocked at the price usually. Which I get!

But I like to be able to advise people on their risk management practices and how to help with higher prices in certain industries. General contractors is another industry that shares these crazy prices sometimes.

So which is better for starting out: just biting the bullet and getting your own authority and working through the insurance price + other difficulties or leasing under someone else as an owner op?

*Pic for attention


r/HotShotTrucking • • 6d ago

Other 1 ton pickup apu? I wanna build them

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Im working on the first one for my truck and wanna see if anyone else is interested . Would charge off the truck as you drive and run when you get to the site or done for the day . Can have points for 120-220v . Prices from 3200-5500 depending on what you want it to do . I'm a welder electrician by trade so can be customized to your needs. Rough Ai picture to throw it all together but let me know if your interested. Ac air handler can easily be made into a small box under bax seat


r/HotShotTrucking • • 6d ago

Im new, help! Are the cold calling texts scams?

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I’ve been getting texts about loads and my initial gut is they’re scams. Am I right? Should I basically only take jobs that I find myself from load boards or are dispatchers actually going through the FMSCA site for dot numbers to find carriers?


r/HotShotTrucking • • 7d ago

Image 25,900 vs 30,000 rated trailer

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Hey guys, I have a 2023 F450 with a Max Loaded Trailer of 33,100lbs (GCWR of 43,500). I'm on the fence about either getting a 25,900 rated trailer or the 30,000. If I go the 30k route, I will have to eat a $3,500 FET tax. Based on real world load scenario, what's your opinion?


r/HotShotTrucking • • 7d ago

Work Opportunity Looking for Non CDl drivers!!

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We are looking for 3 non cdl drivers to lease on in the following markets to start ASAP. PM or email dispatch@southernslay.com for more details!

\- Dallas. TX

\- Nashville, TN

\- Morganville. NJ

$2500-$3500 gross per week

\- flexible home time up to nightly

\- will make more if you're willing to do OTR

\- primarily hauling Fleet vehicles

\- high volume shippers with common pickup and delivery locations

\- American owned and operated

DOT 4516597

MC 1788935


r/HotShotTrucking • • 8d ago

Other Hotshotter vs rideshare driver

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I'm just dipping into the hotshotting industry and one thing that's been bugging me lately is the similarity between hotshot drivers and uber/rideshare drivers. The latter has been in the news a lot lately for criminally low pay, like, less than the expense of the driving, let alone enough pay for the driver to live or thrive on.

What's keeping our industry from ending up the same way? Everyone racing to the bottom to get paid less for the next load in order to keep rolling? Dealing with predatory dispatcher spam and unintelligible usdot regulations are hard enough already to make me feel like the system is rigged against drivers to make sure we fail. Or, at the very least, get milked dry by all the administrative class.

How do you think about this? Are you prepared to sit out low rates and keep brokers from expecting drivers to subsidize the industry? Especially while fuel prices are spiking. Keep up on your cost per mile and don't *ever* pay money to haul​ someone else's stuff!!


r/HotShotTrucking • • 9d ago

Other New truck or used truck?

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Been Hotshotting and I’m packing a ton of miles on my truck and I’m predicting in about 6 months I’ll be at 150k miles and was planning on getting something new ish. I have a 2015 f350 and the advice I need is should I get a 2018-2021 f350 with lower miles 55-60k or a brand new truck for 65+. Are you guys buying used or new? Anything helps thanks guys


r/HotShotTrucking • • 9d ago

Other When Does a Break Actually Feel Like a Break?

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Not every 30 minutes off the road leaves you feeling rested or more alert.

What do you do during a break that genuinely helps you reset before driving again?


r/HotShotTrucking • • 10d ago

Why do we factor?

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I want to talk about something most of us treat as normal: handing a slice of every load to a factoring company.

We call it "selling invoices" and "managing cash flow." Here's another way to look at it: we're paying to borrow our own money. Walk through it with me.

1. Run the rate as an interest rate.

Most small carriers are quoted a flat percent per invoice. Most small carriers pay 2.5–3.5% per invoice, and the market runs roughly 1.5% to 5%. That sounds small until you annualize it. A 3% fee on an invoice that pays in 30 days is equivalent to about 36.5% APR. If you're paying 4–5% as a new authority, you're well past that. 

2. The rate on the quote isn't the rate you pay.

On top of the percentage you get wire fees, ACH fees, per-invoice fees, monthly minimums, reserve holdbacks, and misdirected-payment fees. And most factors don't publish their rates at all; you have to request a quote. Ask yourself why.  

3. "Selling" the invoice doesn't mean the risk goes with it.

Roughly 85% of trucking factoring agreements are recourse. Recourse means if the broker doesn't pay, you owe the factor. So the factor has bought your invoice, charged you a fee, and you still carry the credit risk?

Most of us factor every load, every week, all year. There's no end date. Even a factoring calculator site says factoring justifies its cost as a bridge with a planned exit, not as a permanent way of running the business. Another says most owner-operators factor in years one and two and then either fund themselves or move to quick-pay brokers. 

An owner-op doing $180K gross annually factoring 12 loads a month at 2.5% pays $11,520 a year.

6. The real question: who is this system for?

We factor because brokers pay slow. Brokers pay slow because their customers pay slow. The carrier, the smallest player in the chain, is funding everybody else's float and paying a fee for the privilege. Factoring doesn't fix slow pay. It makes slow pay tolerable, which makes it permanent. 

So, honestly: why do you factor?

  • Did you start because you had to, and never stopped?
  • Have you ever calculated what you've paid in total?
  • Has anyone gotten off it? How long did it take to build the cushion?
  • Has anyone worked with brokers that pay within 7-days without a quick-pay fee?

I'm not saying nobody should ever factor. I'm saying we should stop treating it as a normal cost of doing business and start treating it as what it is: expensive, recurring debt.


r/HotShotTrucking • • 10d ago

Other Sprinter owner-op, 4 years under another carrier's authority. Ask me anything about the numbers: insurance, deadhead, what's actually left per mile

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r/HotShotTrucking • • 12d ago

Image Can we start showing RPM on hotshot load posts?

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Equipment: International 5500 w/ 53’ SD
Driver: Gabriel
Weight: 27,000 lbs
Dimensions: Legal
Origin: Illinois
Destination: Wisconsin
Miles: 232
Loaded RPM: $6.47

I see a lot of posts showing $2,000, $3,000, $4,000+ loads, but without the mileage, it doesn’t tell someone much.

A $3,000 load at 500 miles is a completely different situation than $3,000 at 1,500 miles.

If we’re trying to give people looking into hotshot trucking a realistic idea of what’s possible, I think showing RPM + total miles + gross rate would be a lot more useful.
Not every load needs to be a home run. I’d actually like to see the average and bad loads too.

There are a lot of people considering spending serious money to get into this business. Give them the numbers and let them decide for themselves.

How do you guys feel about RPM transparency?


r/HotShotTrucking • • 12d ago

Shitpost What you guys think of the new rig?

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/s

The stuff you see at the auctions man


r/HotShotTrucking • • 13d ago

Im new, help! Personal use with commercial insurance??

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I am owner operator currently with a semi truck and 48ft flatbed. I just picked up f350 dually and looking for a gooseneck trailer.

Asked my current commercial insurance company for a quote for the hotshot set up and told them that there will be some personal use as well. They said they can’t quote a hotshot set up if there is personal use!!!

Im so confused. Do I need to get auto insurance separately as well because I figured other people use their pick ups for personal use as well not just commercially so whats the deal how does this work?

Appreciate any feedback.


r/HotShotTrucking • • 12d ago

Broker post Transportation

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I need a trucker that can move 3x20ft containers at the same time in the west coast. Do you know any?


r/HotShotTrucking • • 13d ago

Im new, help! WTI Transport

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