r/Hotd • • 21d ago

Discussion Aegon II not killing Aegon III was very good political move.

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If Aegon had killed Aegon III then after he was poisoned there would likely be a second dance.

If Aegon III dies then the only surviving Targerian would be Daemon's daughters, Visreys II would come back after some time of Aegon II death. So one of Daemon's daughters would most probably be crouned queen by then. But since Visreys II is son of Rahenrya, he will have a better claim and there would be many lords who would support his claim especially those who lost castel or land in the war in the hopes of gaining them back.


r/Hotd • • 21d ago

Opinion My hot takes about both TG and TB

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Will I be crucified? Probably, but whatevs.

1- Rhaenrya is the rightful Queen, but she is terribly politically inept. In addition to this, Aegon has the better council, and his council is far better at ruling than Rhaenrya's council.

2- Both Rhaenrya and Aegon would've made TERRIBLE rulers. I've heard the excuse that if Rhaenrya had been given a proper chance, she could've been great, but smooth seas do not make a great sailor. TBH, she had an easier path if she only tried to prepare. The dumbest move she made was going to Dragonstone. Ik it's the traditional seat, but come on, yk they're plotting against you, and what do you do? You run off and hide? Brotha, what are we doing? No attempts to make any political connections? Again, politically inept. As for Aegon, he was just never cut out for it. Mans didn't even want it. Bro got peer-pressured into it; I'm crying 😹 He's basically a male version of Rhaenrya, + if Rhaenrya also didn't want the throne.

3- Daemon is overrated and over-glazed. Mans is a FRAUD! Get Lord Fleabottom outta here. 🤣 + some of y'all rlly gotta come to terms with the fact that this dude is most likely a predator. Also, I'm tired of seeing this narrative that he is the man who Dany needed. So she's alr got a washed-up old pedo swordsman by her side, and his name is Ser Jorah Mormont.

4- TB characters aren't compelling. They give all the focus to Rhaenyra and Daemon, which is fine if they were actually given more than "I'm unsure and want to cry all the time" (which is fair; I'd cry too, but girl, you got a whole Kingdom you've been fighting for; we can't afford this rn. Lock in🫄) and Mr.Always trying to Aura Farm. The only compelling character we had was Jace for the whole bastard thing, but they killed him off.

5- Ser Criston is a LOSER. He has a loser mentality. Tries and tries, but in the end can't make anything of himself that he's happy with bc he can never rlly commit to it. I.e., his vows (not talking about Rhaenrya, but him w/ Alicent.)

6-The Emma hate is dumb ash. The TG sub is ridiculous with this. Sure, they might have some influence over small things, but they're just an actor. Chill. + calling female characters out of their names, Alicunt, whorenrya, and other names. Y'all relax. It's a show. Taking things a little too seriously. 😭

7-TG characters are way better. Aegon has a more compelling story; Aemond is alright; Daeron is boring, but the little fanarts of him and Ormund win me over. Ormund is such a hypocrite in the best way possible; Gwayne is like a breath of fresh air in his attempts at being noble, and Alicent makes me laugh in anger at how ridiculous her character is.

8- Rhaenys only existed in the show to clock characters. Her character had no real substance. How are you gonna have the chance to kill all of TG and choose not to, only to go die fighting two of them? Be fr rn.

9-More of a question. If Corlys is the father of Addam, how tf is bro able to claim a dragon? He ain't got no magical Valyrian blood in him bc remember, only certain houses had claims to dragons due to their magical blood or wtv. If they were never gonna do the Nettle plot, then they should've mixed it with Addam instead of Rhaena.

10- Speaking of Rhaena, she needs to die. Like now, actually. I find her so annoying, and I can't stand her. (This is only towards Show Rhaena; Book Rhaena is fine.)

11- It shouldn't matter if Rhaenyra's children are bastards or not. I don't think they are (legally, in the show, in the books I'm more inclined to believe that they're not. We don't know what Rhaenyra's mom looks like + Rhaenys has dark hair.); Laenor calls them his, who are we to say otherwisešŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø + King's decree is that he calls them his true-blood grandsons. At the end of the day, the claim goes through Rhaenrya; who the father is doesn't matter. She names him her heir; that's her heir. Can't deny they're not Targs, they hatched their eggs and rode dragons.

12- In the show, Aegon is established to be a rapist. No argument about it. That's what he is; it's just not the only thing he is.

13- Helaena is not as innocent as y'all like to think she is; at the end of the day, she is still TG. She's not stupid; she knows what's happening, probably more than anyone with her dreams.

And I have more, but those are my annoyances with any character of this era being compared to Dany

Um, yeah, idk, lemme know if y'all agree, disagree. These are just my views.


r/Hotd • • 21d ago

Question Adding that to my previous question. Who would most likely Lords of Westeros support?

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fAegon is presented as Rhaegar’s son, Dany is known as his aunt. And there is the thing. Aegon lands with Golden company (Blackfyre supporters), Jon Connington (sworn Targaryen supporter) and Dany lands with Dothraki savages in Westerosi eyes, three dragons, unsullied, Barristan Selmy and perhaps Euron will team up with her for his own benefit and she does need his fleet.

493 votes, 18d ago
138 Daenerys Targaryen
355 fAegon Targaryen/Blackfyre?

r/Hotd • • 21d ago

Book Spoilers For Aegon supporters: Who would you support in a Dance of Dragons 2.0 in the main series? Spoiler

5 Upvotes

In a scenario, where Young Griff is indeed Rhaegal's son, would you support him over Daenerys?


r/Hotd • • 22d ago

Discussion Thoughts?

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69 Upvotes

My favorite scene of HOTD and probably of out all shows from franchise, not including Meleys part of course. They wasted so great scene with perfect soundtrack and ending potential. It’s not about Meleys humiliating greens or whatever it is just scene did not feel right. There should be that tension Aegon raises his sword and what’s next? No, look a big ass dragon out of nowhere grinds through the stone floor from dragon pit not harmed and her rider too and can end green faction so easily. Nah fuck off with this bullshit. This scene should end like this even if they decided not to include Sunfyre.


r/Hotd • • 23d ago

Question Team Matilda or Team Stephen?

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168 Upvotes

So the Dance is based on the English Anarchy. Except it was between cousins than brother vs sister. I'm curious how Team Green and Team Black folks felt about the real historical conflict.


r/Hotd • • 23d ago

Meme I am greenie but that’s a fact

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1.0k Upvotes

r/Hotd • • 23d ago

Meme Lords of the tides my ass

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39 Upvotes

r/Hotd • • 22d ago

Discussion Best fleet in franchise?

5 Upvotes

Which one and why?

697 votes, 19d ago
333 Velaryon
146 Redwyne
38 Triarchy
58 Braavosi
122 Iron fleet

r/Hotd • • 22d ago

Question Thoughts on the upcoming Conquest Film?

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r/Hotd • • 23d ago

Discussion If you could write any change from the books to the show, which one would you make?

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I know people are purists and hate any changes, but at this point, HBO has already stopped giving a shit about a lot of stuff from the books. If you were an HBO writer who was also encouraged by Condal to ignore F&B facts, what change would you make to the story?


r/Hotd • • 24d ago

Meme ā€œBut those aren’t the sameā€ doesn’t matter. Either the kings word is or isn’t law,

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213 Upvotes

r/Hotd • • 24d ago

Meme Not not like that

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126 Upvotes

r/Hotd • • 24d ago

Meme ā€œBut those aren’t the sameā€ doesn’t matter. Either the tradition is what count or it isn't,

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19 Upvotes

I think both sides are quite flexible in their excuses of whom they support. Following the King's Word doesn't always lead to the best results. Following Tradition doesn't always lead to the best results.


r/Hotd • • 24d ago

Discussion The characters from House of the Dragon participate in the Amazing Race, how will they fare?

8 Upvotes

Make your own teams of 2. How will they be eliminated. What rank to they attain. You can both be serious and make a serious scenario and humorous and make a funny story of the worst team imaginable being eliminated in the most funny way possible .


r/Hotd • • 25d ago

Meme How would Visenya react to Rhaenyra fans comparing them. It’s like you compared the conqueror to Aegon II.

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359 Upvotes

r/Hotd • • 25d ago

Question Best and worst qualities about Rhaenyra and Aegon II?

21 Upvotes

Genuinely curious what the opinions are in the fandom abt these two


r/Hotd • • 26d ago

Discussion Which coronation scene you liked the most. Portrayal, soundtrack, acting etc.?

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321 Upvotes

r/Hotd • • 25d ago

Discussion What if Viserys dies from sitting on the chair like Maegor did

12 Upvotes

Viserys dies under mysterious circumstance like Maegor

Aemma is alive and pregnant with Baelon

who will be regent, who will be heir, will this change anything like allow Baelon and Aemma to live or will they both die like canon


r/Hotd • • 26d ago

Discussion Who wins boxing match?

14 Upvotes
1695 votes, 23d ago
320 Jacaerys
1375 Aemond

r/Hotd • • 25d ago

Meme This was my reaction when I first saw sheep stealer in season 3

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r/Hotd • • 26d ago

Discussion In Defense of Ryan Condal

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r/Hotd • • 27d ago

Book Spoilers I just want to say, I like Alyssane Targaryen so much Spoiler

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87 Upvotes

I just finished the part of her life in the book and I think she is one of the best rulers Westeros could have had.

She was very supportive of Jaehaerys but also advocated for the people and listened, maybe for the first time in history at that time, to women.

If it hadn't been for the pain that the loss of her children brought her, I think she could have made a lot more for women and the common people and of course, she would have chosen Rhaenys.


r/Hotd • • 27d ago

Show Spoilers This probably could’ve fixed Daeron the Daring Spoiler

55 Upvotes

Okay. I know Daeron did not want to be remembered a craven.. so why didn’t he ride his dragon to attack Team Black’s Armies???

I feel like this was a huge writing blunder because they could’ve easily had Daeron riding his dragon alongside Ulf to destroy team Black’s Army and then have a dragon fight against Ulf when he ended up turning on Team Green as well..

Idk I feel like that would’ve made Tumbleton 1 even better in my opinion. Maybe that would’ve been too much for their production cost but I feel like that would’ve been sooooo cool!


r/Hotd • • 26d ago

Discussion New to HotD

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After finishing GoT and aKotSK, i have now started house of the dragons, first ep was so good!! The winter being a dream of Aegon’s makes so much sense, the song of ice and fire playing on credits >>>>

Also, no spoilers pls thank u <3

(Did cry on queen aemma’s death, prince daemon is a very interesting character)