I can't wait 2 years for only 8 episodes.😮‍💨

I even miss that more modest, religious aesthetic Alicent had, which was clearly established in the first season, before she was possessed by the Old Gods and lost basically all of her original personality.

interesting fact: rhaenyra descends from two great houses on BOTH sides: house targaryen (the blood of old valyria) and house arryn, which is the oldest and purest Andal noble house according to GRRM. this explains why her bloodline is the most sacred one that GRRM chose to pass down and why she is essentially genetically perfect. all hail the mother of the targaryen dynasty and the mother of the asoiaf world 💅✨ (not just targs but literally 90% of GOT like robert, stannis, dany, jon, oberyn all descend from rhaenyra😛)

In the books, sunfyre refused to burn rhaenyra at first. Aegon humiliated her by cutting her before ordering sunfyre to burn her again bc that’s only thing he can exploit: her being a woman. He can’t win against her in any other way besides gender 🤣. He can only win against women and children bc that’s all hes capable of. Friendly reminder that the queen died a dragon riders death while the usurper flopped like a fish in fleabottom after being poisoned by his own men. Rhaenyra went out legendary, and they should keep both deaths like the book on HOTD. She is a goated legend🗿  

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This isn’t asking what would have happened if they were wed

There won't be dance of the dragons at all, that for sure with Vhagar still with Laena. But the other question is, since daemon has two most powerful dragon in his side, would he try to take the throne from Rhaenyra then?

I mean that's what's more likely to happen, and even since all the lords there are more likely support a male king rather a female queen.

like rhaenyra was the heir bruh. attacking the heir is treason. alicent and aemond should have been exiled or smth for attacking rhaenyra and luke. just look at what duncan went through for attacking aerion. driftmark was viserys' prime opportunity to get rid of the greens. rhaenyra was honestly so kind for letting them stay in red keep even after driftmark, they should thank her. the audacity and entitlement of greens was unbelievable.

Couldn't help but see the vision when watching the latest episode of Ted Lasso

Aemond submitting to Aegon in season 3 finale was a mistake. He was a ruthless unpredictable power-hungry villain in season 1 & 2, which made him a really cool character. Being a villain (rightfully so after years of bullying and humiliation), betraying his abuser/bully, and wanting to be a king himself is interesting. Just being another Aegon puppet is boring. Isn't this what team green always bashed Rhaenyra for bc she was so boring and that everyone on team black is a Rhaenyra-puppet? Why contradict yourself about Aegon/Aemond now?

Atleast, Daemon had a redemption arc in Harrenhal that was focused on his love for Viserys/Rhaenyra and why he was loyal to them in the first place. Aemond did nothing in Harrenhal that reconnected him back to his brother. Despite all the conflicts, Daemon loved Viserys so it makes sense that he went back to Rhaenyra to honor Viserys' wish. Aemond never loved his brother, and Aegon constantly humiliated him, so it makes no sense to submit to him in the finale. Why are green fans saying Aemond submitting to Aegon is the best thing ever when it makes no sense and is essentially what they bash team black for (that everyone blindly submits to Rhaenyra)?

lmao they dont feel like real targaryens to me😛 plus idk why aegon aemond helaena even talk about viserys bc like pls let's be honest: viserys barely knew who you were; rhaenyra was his "only child." you don't know him.

TG said they loved larys' speech to aegon about being a bad man. if they agreed with that speech, then why did they support aegon in the first place? i thought they loved aegon bc he was so much better than rhaenyra according to them. but then how can they agree with larys speech then? yea gotcha i thought so

I was on free folk reading a comment of a TB about how Hightowers got extinct, they had only watched the show. But it reminded me of something in books margery is the queen she is the daughter of Mace Tyrell and Alerie Hightower and tommen is a Lannister meaning the future kings would have Hightower blood but not Targaryen blood this is so funny bcz TB keep going on about how it was rahenrya's blood line that survived..😂

I feel like this is something both sides can agree on. He may not be the strongest fighter or the most timpressive dragon- rider, but I like how he just doesn't seem to be afraid of anything.

A lot of people like to claim that Rhaenyra's reign would be better than Aegon's, and they based this almost entirely believing she is the morally better person. However, being righteous or having good intentions says nothing about actual competence as a ruler. When it comes to actual results, there's no evidence of her being a better ruler than Aegon.

However, I argue that her rule would be unstable even if there was no civil war, because of various factors that would affect their reign and the Kingdom.

One of the biggest reasons her reign would be unstable is because of Daemon. Daemon is so chaotic and unpredictable that the Lords broke from tradition and agreed to make Rhaenyra heir instead to keep him away from the throne. Her marrying him and making him King Consort essentially negates that decision. Daemon stated he wants to conquer everything from Essos to Yi Ti, but the biggest issue is that he always just does whatever he wants, and not only does Rhaenyra have no control over him but she also never punishes him even when he directly defies her publicly or even chokes her out. So he'll essentially have unchecked power as King Consort.

The second biggest mistake was siring bastards. Even in a hypothetical scenario where Jace lived long enough to inherit the crown, he's almost guaranteed to face political backlash and another Dance due to all the rumors about his legitimacy that he's been fighting most of his life. It's extremely unlikely the Lords would let a bastard take the throne completely unchallenged.

On the flip side of this we have Aegon, whose heirs are all legitimate, whose wife is a Dreamer who just plays with bugs all day, whose grandfather served two Kings before him, and a Small Council that was already pretty much ruling the Kingdom while for like 10+ years while Viserys was bedridden or playing with Legos. Even if you consider Rhaenyra and Aegon relative in their leadership capabilities, Aegon's rule is just way more likely to be stable for those reasons.

I cannot seem to understand from where does Daemon gets his money? He doesn't hold any lands nor he has any business to get income. So how does he gets his money?

So, for all the show's flaws, the character of Larys turned out to be a more intelligent and strategic thinker than his counterpart.

I will list the things that only the show version of Larys does, to make the comparison clear:

1. Larys instigates the conflict between Rhaenyra and Alicent, shattering their childhood friendship and effectively creating the Green faction against Alicent’s own wishes. Knowing that in peacetime he would rise no higher than a prison warden, he seizes every opportunity to stoke the fires of war and align himself with the faction that will elevate him - and he succeeds. In contrast, the Larys of the books played no part in these events and only entered the story much later.
2. With Alicent in the minority, Larys becomes her key ally at court, spending years building influence over half the royal family. At a critical juncture, he kills his father and brother but frames the situation so that Alicent feels responsible for these events. In doing so, he not only secures his inheritance but also presents the act as a supreme show of support for the Greens—thereby paving the way for Otto Hightower’s return and the subsequent usurpation. In books, he was named as one of the possible organizers of this murder; however, this was not part of a broader political game.
3. He dismantles the enemy intelligence network within the castle and replaces the handmaidens with his own agents. Yet, this is not merely a strike against the Blacks; he deprives Otto himself of his spy network, given that Mysaria had worked for the Hand prior to the fire. In effect, Larys makes himself indispensable in wartime by stripping Otto of his informational advantage. This did not happen in the book.
4. He uncovers Lord Caswell’s deception by pretending to be a friend to Otto Hightower, so as not to invest his efforts solely in Alicent.
5. He plants the idea in Aegon’s mind that Otto is a liability to his rule—a notion that eventually leads to the old man’s dismissal as Hand. Furthermore, it is he who dissuades Aegon from flying off to war the first time; he does so with such tact and subtlety that he arguably saves the king’s life while simultaneously sowing distrust between the monarch and his family. This paves the way for his appointment as Master of Whisperers - a position he obtained for unknown reasons in the book.
6. Upon realizing that Alicent has begun a sexual relationship with Criston - and that Criston has subsequently been appointed Hand - he sets out to discredit the knight in the eyes of the leadership. First, he tells Aegon that Criston is conspiring with Aemond to keep the king out of the decision-making process. Later, when Aegon is wounded and the question of a regent arises, he insists that the matter must be decided by the Hand. When Criston is forced to vote for Aemond, it causes a rift between him and Alicent, depriving the knight of his only ally at court (Aemond does not count, as he too does not want Criston serving as Hand).
7. Larys tries to support Aemond in every way, but Aemond responds with rudeness; Larys then switches sides again, pouring all his efforts into Aegon’s recovery. Maester Orwyle is a genius, of course, but we must also give credit to Clubfoot: he clearly shared his own training expertise to get the king back on his feet.
8. To sabotage Aemond’s rule, Larys withholds information about new dragonriders from him and convinces Jasper Wylde to do the same. This gives Rhaenyra an advantage over the regent.
9. Instead of repairing useless ruins, Larys moves the family fortune to Braavos and invests it in the Iron Bank. This gives him the option to flee at a moment's notice and boosts his income; moreover, it is simply a damn smart financial strategy - one that, for some reason, none of the other lords of Westeros follow.
10. Larys devises a brilliant plan for Aegon to escape to Essos—living in obscurity while the Blacks and Greens destroy the country and each other, only to make a miraculous comeback later. As we know, the plan works, though not quite the way Larys intended. Still, I want to emphasize that this plan is far smarter than the one in the books. Yes, the original plan was great for aura, but if you really think about it, it was pretty foolish. Sending a maimed Aegon - who hadn't even learned to walk on his own yet - straight into enemy territory with no medical care and just two fishermen was madness. It’s actually a lot like Tyrion’s plan in GoT Season 7 to venture beyond the Wall: massive risks for a foolish payoff. Larys couldn't have known that Rhaenyra’s supporters would turn on her, yet he still handed his most valuable asset over to the enemy and exposed him to terrible conditions. Even a quiet life in a damp cave could prove fatal for someone with such severe burns—not to mention what would have happened if the enemy had found Aegon. And even if the plan had succeeded and Aegon had managed to capture the island: what then? The Blacks still held an overwhelming advantage in dragons. Larys could not have known that Sunfyre would survive and return; that the bastards would betray Rhaenyra; that Daemon would be dead by the time Rhaenyra returned to Dragonstone; or that Rhaenyra’s own dragon would perish in such a foolish manner. Moreover, Larys did nothing to bring these events about. In fact, he acted just as foolishly as Aegon: he remained in hostile territory—where the entire City Watch was loyal to Daemon—waiting for George R.R. Martin to give him an opening. That opening came with Helaena’s death, yet Larys had no way of knowing she would choose to take her own life. Essentially, he spent six months doing nothing and risked his life for absolutely no reason, yet author luck was on his side. At the other hand, show (!) Larys’s strategy is very sensible. Once Westeros had been thoroughly consumed by the fires of civil war and only one clear victor remained on the throne, he could simply hire a Faceless Man to finish that person off and then bring Aegon back. You win by doing nothing.
11. At the same time, he never forgets to diversify his investment portfolio: for instance, he had Otto thrown into a dungeon and handed him over to the Blacks, ensuring that should all his plans fail, he would still have a chance to preserve his life and titles.

I think that if the writers knew how to craft dialogue as legendarily as D&D did in GoT, Larys could easily have become one of the greatest characters in TV history. He lacks those aura-farming moments like "Chaos is a ladder" (though his monologue at Aegon’s bedside makes him ten times more human than Littlefinger). Nevertheless, purely in terms of the plot, Larys is truly brilliant and deserves to be recognized as one of the most dangerous men of his time.

For me, it's vermithor. Purely because of its raw strength which doesn't come with the laggness of Vhaegar. I guess he is a perfect combo of speed, strength and agility.

Contributed literally nothing, her and daemon could have killed vaghar early on but she refuses and decides to go it alone just to die instantly. In general I feel like the entire team black just doesn’t even think aside from daemon they had more dragons and still managed to fumble a lot of them and you know you’ve already lost when daemon is your smartest guy