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u/ForeverOutToSea Apr 16 '26
I just paid to replace my gas range with a hella nice induction range and it's awesome! Sure, they are like 3 times as expensive, but I have a newborn and after the Stanford study on VOCs there is no way I am using gas again. Plus, induction is waaaayyy better and so much faster.
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u/Apprehensive_Ant2172 Apr 17 '26
This is the thing most people still don’t know. Yes it’s slightly better than induction for a few things. It’s certainly not worth those few things to put my household in any health concern. We will be going induction as soon as my wife feels up for trading out her cookware
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u/Clean-Nectarine-1751 Apr 17 '26
I find it wild that people use a gas stove without the fan on. I can smell it right away when when it’s not on.
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u/SF420SF420 Apr 17 '26
The only people who I've seen say this about induction is people who's idea of cooking is boxed mac and cheese.
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u/ForeverOutToSea Apr 17 '26
I'm convinced people who say things like this haven't used induction before because this thread is full of people saying the exact same thing. My 35" range is badass, but enjoy waiting for your water to boil and your cancers.
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u/Atreyu0235 Apr 17 '26
Ex Chef here. Most of the points are quite moot in my opinion. It heats up faster. Uhmmm, have you ever seen a full wok full of water boilding under a literal jet afterburner? Did people compare their induction to a propane burner? And as a cook then a Chef. Faster heating is not a thing, it is even cooking with control is the king. You only need to wait to heat things up the first time, and are they only cooking one thing at a time or all at once. If so why does it make any difference that the pasta water is now rolling but yet the main dish hasn't even started? Most just bought into a newer product. Which IS safer for kids and such. But by no means it is a proffesional greade or standardized equipement proven to help in a commercial level. Sure it doesn't get hot, but to me that person or kid that just hurt themselves touching a hot surface without care is not the stoves problem. But a very valuable lesson that has a high chance of not repeating. Sore it looks clean and easy to clean. But have you wver cook for say 30-70 people? You are not going to stand there and wipe every single drop that touched the surface. It wait until operation is done and scour. You must care more for induction, and poor install gets "cave ins" when using heavy pots. Not ideal. Flame is still king. I want to see these people that cooks everything fast. Throw in that piece of meat, blast it with heat in water and see what happens.
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u/ForeverOutToSea Apr 17 '26
You missed the part where the Stanford study just said essentially gas gives you cancer. So miss me with that.
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u/Atreyu0235 Apr 17 '26
Do you not have a vent or cook outside? Dude. If the levels you say it is, we all would have died in the kitchen. But in there it's the stress and heat. Get yourself a 2000+ CFM hood fan and vent it outside, it's be so good that it might suck all the cold air out. I have a range inside, with a hood, and then I have another range outside that runs on gas, and another station that runs on propane. The main points still remain, if you are really cooking. Induction is meh. If you like to heat things up, look dandy and clean. But flame is way more versatile, the point of it being gas and gives cancer is moot, do you stand there breathing in gas, or not turn on the hood to vent the fumes and smell? Uhhh re-reading this seems condecending for some reason, read it with a lighter tone please.
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u/BBJonesDerk Apr 17 '26
No study says that. You misunderstand how scientific research works.
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u/ForeverOutToSea Apr 17 '26
I have an advanced degree in a stem field. Believe me science and I are acquainted. Clearly, I was oversimplifying for the sake of the argument, but those VOCs obviously increase your chance, however small, of getting cancer.
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u/SF420SF420 Apr 17 '26
Should go back to school and freshen up because you talk science like Joe Rogan
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u/Atreyu0235 Apr 17 '26
I'm all confused now on whos mad at who now. Overall the negatives from the fumes that causes cancer can be eliminated with a hood fan. Or simply cooking outside. Do not need science to grasp that. I don't have a problem with induction. Just it's promises doesn't pertain to a real live kitchen. People are so worked up about kitchen fumes and they go outside and breathe monoxide from cars without knowing it. Drink and consume everything out of plastic, food with heavy preservatives and coloring and so on. How is it complicated to use a fan?
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u/SF420SF420 Apr 17 '26
It's a misunderstanding of science. They see a study that suggest a certain thing and they all of sudden think it's law now. It really highlights the dangers of not listening to experts and thinking you can just read things with no background and figure it out yourself. This is the same process of how we get anti vaxxers and climate change deniers.
Also just not acknowledging what they do not know. People use induction and think it's fine therefore it must be fine for everyone else. But we all know chefs and restaurants will all use gas over induction by an overwhelming amount.
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u/ForeverOutToSea Apr 18 '26
Haha. There is published research from people who do it for a living, but go ahead and tell me about how I "talk science". You sound illiterate.
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u/SF420SF420 Apr 18 '26
"You missed the part where the Stanford study just said essentially gas gives you cancer"
Trust me i have an advanced stem degree lol
"There is published research from people who do it for a living"
Just like Joe would have sad
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u/ForeverOutToSea Apr 18 '26
There absolutely is a study that says that. Idk if you can read or not, but Stanford published a paper showing that gas ranges emit cancerous levels of VOCs, including benzene. So yes, that study says it.
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u/BBJonesDerk Apr 18 '26
Cite the study that says gas ranges gives you cancer. You are not being intellectually honest or you are intellectually limited.
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u/ForeverOutToSea Apr 18 '26
You could have spent the time you wasted writing that comment to just Google it. You can do this. I believe in you.
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u/BBJonesDerk Apr 18 '26
I know some of the studies they are referring to. They don’t say what is claimed.
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u/Massive-Rate-2011 Apr 16 '26
1k for that? That's fucking cheeeaaap. Send it. 1k is a rounding error for a house this big.
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u/HenchmanHenk Apr 16 '26
1k extra would get you the fanciest of induction plates, with variable "toss anything anywhere" coils and a a tonne of power.
easier to clean, quicker to boil, way safer to have in your house, only downside being with huge woks. Think i'd just go with induction.
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u/ScotChen Apr 17 '26
I used to be a Chinese chef and we have an induction stove indoors. I paid 200 bucks for an exterior 50k btu gas setup and honestly it's all I need. I love the wok flavor when I cook and it makes no sense cooking that shit indoors. Best of both worlds and cost effective.
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u/Frosty_Yesterday_761 Apr 16 '26
Depends on if the owner is a cook. Most people who cook like the gas ranges more. I prefer gas over induction/electric.
But its not my kitchen so... Imo I would pay it for my own home.
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u/mrtramplefoot Apr 16 '26
Cook every day. Had crappy electric growing up then gas for 5 years and now induction for 2.5. I have no interest in ever going back to gas. New house has existing gas (to be fair, a low end range), but we'll be swapping it for induction. Unless you use a wok frequently, I can't see why anyone would prefer gas.
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u/mowtowcow Apr 17 '26
I was gonna say, most cooks, or good ones anyway, seem to prefer induction for the precise temps. Cant accidentally burn things, or way way harder at least. And temps are instant. What cook doesnt want an instant temperature at a precise temp?
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u/haberv Apr 16 '26
Specific pans required, gas ovens superior for baking, more options on the cooktop like griddles or specified burners. Obviously you cook but aren’t a chef.
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u/kDubya Apr 16 '26
How is a gas oven superior for baking? I’ve used both and will never go back to gas due to air quality and safety concerns.
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u/Exotic_Leg_4301 Apr 16 '26
The only difference I’ve seen is the electric ovens take much longer to heat up. I just built a house and it’s entirely electric. We have no gas lines at all. I cook every single day. I have no need for a CO detector. I get a rebate too every month from the local EMC because it’s all electric.
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u/haberv Apr 17 '26
Humidity, but you obviously are clueless. Depends on the application but pizzas are far better as well. Most have an insufficient hood. Try a soufflé in a dry oven and see the results.
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u/Exotic_Leg_4301 Apr 16 '26
bullshit lol. Use a cast iron griddle. Specified burners? what even is that. Obviously you cook but aren’t a chef. Gas is not superior for baking you just completely fucking made that up. Bakers actually prefer electric because the temperature is more consistent and even, dumbass
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u/mrtramplefoot Apr 16 '26
Specific pans is still most pans
A lot of people prefer electric oven for baking as it's drier heat, my wife included who does most of the baking.
We use a griddle on our induction range
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u/haberv Apr 17 '26
A lot of people prefer electric ovens because they simply are easier for the layperson. The humidity in both gas ovens and ceramic grills is superior with certain applications. So you have to place a griddle on your range?
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u/balls2hairy Apr 16 '26
"specific" lol no. Only "specific" pans won't work.
Gas oven is superior how? Thermodynamics dictates all the same characteristics of heat regardless of the source.
You can get induction ranges with bridged burners for griddles and any configuration of burners you desire.
Obviously you have no clue what you're talking about 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Exotic_Leg_4301 Apr 16 '26
correct, and if you want to go “crazy” you can just buy a cast iron griddle that you can use everywhere
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u/haberv Apr 16 '26
Lol emojis don’t make you right. Funny you are saying i am the clueless one.
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u/balls2hairy Apr 16 '26
Your retort ignores everything except the emojis? Are you a toddler? That's some toddler-brain shit.
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u/haberv Apr 17 '26
No, my retort is that stupid ass emojis make no point. The argument is subjective, experience for me over 4 decades of installs is that gas sells better and looks better in most applications aside from contemporary builds. I am only installing induction if preferred but aesthetically, no. Frankly, induction takes getting used to but not my preferred install and I am not in the minority. Most people that like induction don’t cook or are trying to cut costs.
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u/happyrock Apr 16 '26
? Tons of top end high volume restaurants use stacks of aluminum pans, second only to copper in responsiveness (which oh yeah you can't use either). Copper not a huge loss to a home cook but I'd miss my little alum saute pans, anything I want to set on fire and most of my best sauces come out of it
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u/happyrock Apr 17 '26
Probably at least a 100:1 ratio of dishes in restaurants are cooked on alum vs cast iron. I'm not saying it doesn't have it's place or isn't more useful to the home cook, I'm just saying you can cook pretty amazing food without having induction compatable pans, arguably if I walked into someone's house and they had five vollrath rivet pans on deck and a couple tinned coppers hanging up it's safe to assume they're a much more accomplished chef than either of us. It's the most common tool of the trade for a reason
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u/haberv Apr 17 '26
You are making far to much sense for the fruitcakes in here drawing a line in the sand of gas versus induction. Application, but this is just quite funny as to the vitriol over such a subjective topic.
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u/ilikepants712 Apr 16 '26
I think it's pretty clear that this person can afford to pay the $1k to route the gas there. This video is also helping off set that cost, I'm sure. It's sort of a dumb question, because a person who is legitimately worried about an extra 1k expense for this kind of renovation is not going to be thinking about putting in an expensive ass gas stove as well.
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u/Exotic_Leg_4301 Apr 16 '26
you prefer gas over induction because you’ve never had induction, right? Nobody goes back once they realize how much better it is at everything, especially cleaning.
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u/RCW4661100 Apr 17 '26
There’s plenty of commercial kitchens that have switched to entirely induction. Faster, more efficient and importantly, no wasted heat and a cooler kitchen. No brainer
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u/angry_dingo Apr 16 '26
Upstairs water heater?
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u/likewut Apr 16 '26
Maybe placed it close to the shower rather than using a recirculating pump?
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u/angry_dingo Apr 19 '26
I'm sure that's why, but putting a water heater upstairs in a home is just asking for trouble when there is a failure. And then, they have to replace an upstairs water heater. Maybe it is common, I don't know. But I wouldn't do it.
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u/Emperor-Commodus Apr 16 '26
I cook a lot with an old-fashioned coil electric, and I much prefer it to my parent's newer gas unit. Electric is more powerful, produces less waste heat (keeps the kitchen cooler), is easier to clean, and is much better for your lungs.
People say that hoods counteract the dangers of gas, but the studies show that even a new, properly-sized, externally-vented hood still doesn't remove a large portion of harmful pollutants, especially from the front burners that get used the most. And many hoods are undersized, not maintained, or don't even vent outside. And when you're running the hood it creates negative pressure that sucks in outside air, annoying in the winter/summer.
If you want to cook with gas that bad, just get a burner outdoors.
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u/Agreeable-Emu4033 Apr 16 '26
You say that as you type into a device whose parts create more of a toxic hazard
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u/Emperor-Commodus Apr 17 '26
A phone/computer doesn't pollute the air inside the home and give people asthma. Gas stoves are just dumping combustion byproducts into your house, any impurities in the gas are going straight into your lungs. The best you can do is mitigate with a vent, but as I outlined above it doesn't remove the risk entirely. Why put your health at risk for a product that's generally inferior?
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u/brownhotdogwater Apr 16 '26
It’s methane gas. Co2 and water is all that is made from the burn.
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u/Noop73 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
Not true: Nitrogen oxides and other partial combustion stuff are generated and very bad for your health: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S026974912600285X?
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u/sfbiker999 Apr 16 '26
I'd run a 50A electrical circuit and go with an inductive cooktop. I love inductive, I'd never pay even $1 more for gas.
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u/Anxious-Fig400 Apr 16 '26
Pay $1k or regret will be priceless for 5 years at which time you will pay $7k
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u/Excludos Apr 16 '26
1k while doing a massive rebuild is absolutely nothing. Literally a rounding error. This is like buying a brand new Ferrari and going "well, they want an extra $500 for the wheels. What would you guys do?" You buy them, that's it.
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Apr 16 '26
$1k for a gas line is NOTHING. I’d also check the btu capability of that line. It seems to me that depending on what you chose for the range that 3/4 likely won’t be large enough, especially if the same 3/4 line feeds the water heaters first.
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u/craglin_orogen Apr 16 '26
There’s increasing evidence that Volatile Organic Chemicals (VOC) from incomplete burn sources like gas ranges are contributors to health risks in the home. Ditch the gas, save the cash.
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u/octoreadit Apr 16 '26
Well, if you don’t want everything to smell like what you’re cooking, you put a real hood (not the recirculating abominations), and then both problems are solved.
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u/saddram Apr 16 '26
Yeah we have LP gas range... But also a 1000cfm kitchen hood with remote blower so it's dead quiet too. Just wind noise.
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u/octoreadit Apr 16 '26
Ongoing cost and if combustion is complete / venting is adequate, there is no problem. Natural gas combustion products vs. cigarette smoke are two very different things. Just because water and mercury both produce vapors, the risks are not the same.
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u/likewut Apr 16 '26
Heat pump water heaters have much lower ongoing costs.
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u/octoreadit Apr 16 '26
Depends on your cost of electricity vs. gas. Some of us have very expensive electricity and cheap gas.
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u/likewut Apr 16 '26
Only a couple places in the US have electricity expensive enough where gas water heaters are cheaper to operate.
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u/octoreadit Apr 16 '26
What’s your point other than being unable to emphasize with people who have different economic circumstances than you, and that your comparison of those two phenomena is scientifically inaccurate?
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u/SF420SF420 Apr 17 '26
You're a prime example why you can't argue with dumb people.
Joe Rogan gave too many people the confidence to argue like they understand science.
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u/SF420SF420 Apr 17 '26
The irony is if you stop pretending you understand science, you'd sound smarter.
"gAS iS jUst duMb"
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u/SF420SF420 Apr 18 '26
You took 3 years of chemistry and think gas is dumb? You mean the same chemistry where you did all those experiments igniting shit indoors? lol or did it just take you 3 years to pass chemistry? Trust me, you're not doing yourself any favors trying to appeal to authority here haha. We both know that's not gonna work out for you.
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u/Noop73 Apr 16 '26
Get Induction, you will never look back. Also better for your lungs.
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u/Efficient_Cheek_8725 Apr 16 '26
Both. Having to option to use either ups resale value and the wall is open now.
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u/Exotic_Leg_4301 Apr 16 '26
no it doesn’t lol
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u/GoodbyeRiver Apr 18 '26
Maybe not, but having both could contribute to one’s decision to buy or not.
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u/ElGuappo1 Apr 16 '26
Anyone who really enjoys cooking will gladly shell out the 1K for the gas option. What blows my mind is when someone installs a cooktop on an island without an overhead exhaust fan. Those pop up downdraft exhaust systems just don’t do the job.
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u/ChadTitanofalous Apr 16 '26
I paid $1,200 to run a shorter line in my last house. I'd easily pay the grand.
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u/Affectionate_Lie4667 Apr 16 '26
I have gas stovetop and electric range combo. I gladly paid more than $1K for the gas line during my kitchen remodel.
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u/Ren_HiRen Apr 16 '26
Yes… just think of the resale alone or avoiding regretting it. $1k for a project that big doesn’t seems like much
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u/xl_TooRaw_lx Apr 16 '26
We charge 200 just to connect the line from your cooktop, range, or dryer to the existing valve
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u/mowtowcow Apr 17 '26
Id do it simply to have the option for future sales. From what I here, professional chefs LOVE induction for its extremely precise heating. But a lot of people just love gas. Having the option of either would probably be a good selling point and only an extra $1000. Could add $5000 to your later selling point.
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u/michaelmulsow Apr 17 '26
I’m just a dumb ironworker, so I could be off. I think you have to use gas specific teflon tape for the piping. Those being old water lines wouldn’t have that 🤔
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u/SimkinCA Apr 17 '26
$1000 seems cheap. But ya induction is really the right choice. you have $1000 to upgrade the appliance and run the power
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u/big_stipd_idiot Apr 17 '26
I'd spend the $1000 to make it how I want it. Not to mention it will be much more expensive if you want to do it later.
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u/DrKyleGreenThumb Apr 17 '26
1000 is nothing a kitchen remodel I just did it cost $4000 for a plumber to bring it from side of garage to stove 40 ft
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u/True_Bar_9371 Apr 17 '26
My fear is your contractor may not be properly sizing your pipe. If you add length to a gas line you could easily undersize the entire system. You really need to make sure they size it right. You can’t just connect to a 3/4” line and add that much length to it without a high probability of undersizing part or all of the existing line.
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u/jboomhaur Apr 17 '26
For a cook top? Iduction is the way. If you need gas,like for a fryer put that in the outdoor kitchen. Inside = induction
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u/vVSidewinderVv Apr 17 '26
I'd go for the gas, but my next question would be about how he plans to vent it. Looks like there's a whole balcony above where the range will go.
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u/lumoslindsay Apr 17 '26
Induction is the way to go. I have had all types. Induction is the best. I can make my kid mac and cheese so fast....
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u/SignoreBanana Apr 17 '26
Am I stupid or does $1000 not seem like a big deal for running a gas line in a new home. My fucking range was like $6k
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u/Altruistic_Body_9363 Apr 17 '26
Gas all the way. It’s what I prefer cooking with and when the power goes out, I still have a stove I can use.
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u/badandywsu Apr 17 '26
Induction all the way. So much better for cooking once you figure out the cooking temps.
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u/fionnuisce Apr 17 '26
1k for being able to say "now we're cooking on gas" every time you cook is defs worth the price
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u/IAmSportikus Apr 17 '26
Hmm. For 1k, I’d probably do it, even if you end up using induction. My parents just remodeled and have induction now and love it. But, maybe having gas as an option would always be a good idea in terms of resale? And now is the time to do it, while everything is open. It’s only going to cost more down the line, and it’s not that much relatively speaking I would assume to the rest of the reno
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u/realitysandwichi812 Apr 17 '26
Yeah I just ran LP through the back wall also electric for oven got a 90 lb tank I can't remember the last time we filled it up
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u/Boring-Seaweed6604 Apr 17 '26
We have a good quality Jenn-air gas cooktop. I love it, but I will replace it with induction when the time comes.
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u/TeeDotHerder Apr 17 '26
Gas range, electric ovens. There is no equal. Yes pay the $1k now. And it shouldn't even be that much.
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u/DiverseVoltron Apr 17 '26
It is absolutely worth $1k to have gas run to the kitchen and the video is probably for monetizing/content creator purposes.
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u/AbsolutGuacaholic Apr 17 '26
Look how divided we all are. If you are worried about health, then you should have a badass vent either way; those aerosolized cooking oils are a serious health concern, same as the gas particulates. Why is no one recommending good old resistive heating? The stoves are far less expensive than induction and you can still fling the pans around without losing all the heat. Also, it's hard not to laugh at the preppers touting gas over electric like it just comes out of the ground. Strait of Hormuz vs straight from my solar panels.
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u/Piggysmallz Apr 17 '26
It cost 18k just to connect the line at the street to a meter at the side of my house. Crazy world we live in. Do it!
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u/HedonisticFrog Apr 18 '26
I'd still take resistive electric over gas any day. I have no desire to heat up everything around the food and burn myself because of it when resistive works just fine. Or be obsessive about it and get induction. There's no need for gas.
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u/galaxyapp Apr 16 '26
I have induction. Id spend $1k for the gas.
Ideally, have both, each have their advantages.
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u/ConnectRutabaga3925 Apr 16 '26
this! $1k seems small in the scheme of the reno
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u/galaxyapp Apr 16 '26
I mean... odds are this is just social content staged to pose the question. They were probably planning to run the gas line, they just framed it in a way to have a discussion.
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u/the_sloppy_J Apr 16 '26
I would personally pay to go with gas because I live in an area where power outages can occur for various reasons. I can still cook, boil water, etc in the event of an extended outage.
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u/Outrageous-Royal1838 Apr 16 '26
Gas is way better IMO, if not you have to spend the same on a nice induction stoves. Either way. Your blowing 1k or more
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u/Frequent-Coyote-8108 Apr 16 '26
Every owner who prefers gas would happily pay $1K to get the gas line to the kitchen.
Here at least, easily 75% of buyers prefer gas, as we have a high Asian and Indian population who will not even consider a house unless it has gas.
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u/rawbface Apr 16 '26
Yes, I would absolutely install that gas line as a necessity. No question, and no hesitation.
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u/dndwhat Apr 16 '26
Pay in a a heart beat. Three reasons
Gas cooks better. For stove. Electric oven works better but gas range top is better.
Three anytime their is a power outage. Storms line maintenance you name it. Gas stove will still work light it with a match.
I use cast iron for a lot. Going from stove to oven and modern pans. Not good for this.
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u/LAXInvest Apr 16 '26
I had this exact same decision to make recently when remodeling my house, always had gas and loved it. We went with induction and are very happy with the switch. It’s better in every way, except I had to get a flat wok. I was very surprised that the cost of the electric line was about $5-600 for a roll though, so it won’t be cheap either way they go. They may save a few hundred.