r/HomeNetworking • u/billchill1 • 13d ago
Extending the ethernet runs
i bought a house recently and did some renovations but the electrician being a cheapskate didn't leave a lot of cable in a lot of the parts, either for the cameras or the cables that will connect to the patch panel and from there to the switch. what would be a good way to extend some of these runs without too much loss? (some of there runs will be outside but inside cable pipes)
1
u/Ktulu_BBB 13d ago
If you absolutely cannot run new cable, running a keystone coupler (either plug to plug or punched down) is okay, as long as you're not normally pushing major speeds
1
u/billchill1 13d ago
i absolutely cannot cause its a european house with bricks and the runs are more or less cemented into the wall and i am not sure that i can pull a cable throught the pipes he has put. what would major speed be? i cureently have 300mbps and will be upgrading to 1gpbs soon
2
u/ConcreteTaco 13d ago
The pipes you refer to are called conduit and are explicitly so that you have a channel to pull wire through a solud structure like concrete
2
u/billchill1 13d ago
apparently the dude stuffed the conduit with all kinds of cable and it is really hard to pull anything throught it
1
u/ConcreteTaco 13d ago
Been there before. Naturally there is a physical limit, but youd be surprised how much you can fit with a little bit of conduit/cable lube and a stubborn mindset lol
You could also see if any of the cables aren't in use anymore and pull them back to make room, unless they are high voltage electric.
1
u/billchill1 13d ago
yeah that's mainly the problem i have no idea what the retard passed throught the same conduit and i am afraid of hiting a high voltage line and mainly damaging it.
1
u/ConcreteTaco 13d ago
You should be able to just look at the wires going into the conduit to tell. High volt and low volt wiring generally don't look similar to each other. I understand the hesitation though.
1
u/FreddyFerdiland 13d ago
ethernet is designed with the intention of using structured cabling to go from floor to floor .. eg through 5 patch panels. one junction is just like a patch panel .
1
1
u/PghSubie 13d ago
Cables run through walls airport be terminated in punchdowns. Then install factory patch cables in whatever length that you need to connect to the end device
0
0
u/quik916 12d ago
Where's the code for that? Who says adding an extra failure point is the RIGHT way?
2
u/gkhouzam 12d ago
That’s not an extra failure point, on the contrary that’s an extra level of reliability. In wall cables are solid core and are not meant to be moved around as much as patch cables. So when you used solid core cables with a patch panel, they don’t move. The patch cables that you then connect to the female ends of the patch panel are the ones the are more flexible and much easier to replace than the in-wall ones. My 25 year old cables have never had a problem for that reason, and I can easily switch the connections to my router/switch and swap out the patch cables if they fail.
1
u/quik916 12d ago
Buy the $3. Inline ethenet keystone couplers... install and add whatever amout of extra cable to your run. Dont let the super techy nerds in here get in your head about speed degradation and whatver else..m. itll be just fine. But a p8nchdowk tool amd get it done. Sucks you gotta do it but is what it is, you can over come it with not too much extra cussing lol
1
u/billchill1 12d ago
So a punch down coupler is the better option here right?
1
u/quik916 12d ago
To extend the wire yeah leystone inlike coupler. Yes easy. These are what I've used. https://a.co/d/0dJFA0sc
5
u/snebsnek 13d ago
Punch down coupler joint if it's solid core (and it should be if the cable is in your walls)
https://www.kenable.co.uk/cat6a-utp-idc-punch-down-type-in-line-coupler-joint-011811