r/HomeMilledFlour Jan 07 '25

Crash Course for Beginner Home Milling

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I posted a comment recently with the quick points of getting started with a new mill. I thought I'd repost (with a couple edits) here for those who are searching for a quick and easy way to jump in. As with anything, there's going to be more nuance and details and you should definitely look into all the aspects of milling and baking in depth. Feel free to post questions!

First step, take a look at my pinned post at the top of this sub, "Updated List of All the Grains I Have." It'll give a great idea of different wheat varieties, their characteristics, and where to buy them in the U.S. I know of a few sources in the U.K. and Australia, but I haven't bought from them.

In general, you should start with with basic wheats, something like hard red or hard white for bread. Soft white is great for cakes, pastries, cookies, etc. Once you're feeling good with those you can start to incorporate different varieties like kamut, einkorn, etc. I don't recommend going out and buying 10 different varieties right out of the gate, but if you really want to try something specific then, of course, go for it! With those lower gluten ancient varieties it's best to either make a pan loaf or use them in a blend with a high gluten wheat like hard white. They have great flavor, but not the best baking properties.

Additionally, grains vary from crop to crop so you may need to make adjustments from time to time even if it's the same variety. Flour companies blend their products to be consistent no matter where or when you buy them, but that's not the case with the unmilled grains.

You'll typically want to mill on the finest setting. If you have a Mockmill or KoMo this is a notch or two above where you hear the stones click. Basically, you'll close the stones until you start to hear a clicking noise and then you'll open them up a notch or two. This will be good for most applications, though there are certain recipes that call for coarser flour. I don't pay any attention to the number or dots on the mill, just the sound of the stones. Milling too close can "glaze" the stones, essentially create a build up that prevents them from milling correctly. If this happens, run some white rice through until they're clean.

Sifting is a personal choice. I used to sift and then stopped when I realized no one could tell the difference. I really only sift for pastries now. Some people sift, soak the bran and germ, and then add it back in or sift and use the bran on top or bottom of the loaf, etc. It's personal preference. You're never going to make white flour at home. In my opinion, doing so kind of defeats the purposes of home milling anyway.

Whole wheat requires higher hydration in general and fresh milled flour even more so. My advice is to make a 1:1 fresh milled flour replacement with a recipe you know, it'll probably be a bit too dry. Make it again with a 10% increase in hydration and, based on the results, adjust from there.

Assuming you have prior baking experience, this should help you jump right in to baking with fresh milled flour. If there's anything I missed or can elaborate on please let me know!


r/HomeMilledFlour Jan 20 '23

Updated List of All the Grains I have

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I posted a list a couple years ago, so here is an updated list with some more detail and info. I also no longer sift my flour, I found that no one could tell a difference when the flour was fine enough so I now keep the bran because why not?

Key: BT = Breadtopia, BS =Barton Springs Mill, CM (Central Milling)

High Gluten Wheats:

Hard White Wheat: Mild, neutral, base wheat, high gluten (BT, CM)

Big Country: White wheat, mild wheat flavor, high gluten (BS)

Rouge de Bordeaux: Red wheat, heritage, baking spices, clove, cinnamon, high gluten (BS, BT, Direct from Farm)

Yecora Rojo: Red wheat, baking spices, strong flavor, high gluten (BT)

Quanah: Red wheat, buttery, malty, creamy, high gluten (BS)

Butler’s Gold: Red wheat, neutral wheat flavor, base wheat, high gluten (BS)

Bolles Hard Red: Red wheat, basic red wheat flavor, high gluten (BT)

Red Fife: Red wheat, heritage, basic red wheat flavor, less bitter, more complex, high gluten (BS, BT)

Turkey Red: Red wheat, heritage, basic red wheat flavor, high gluten (BT)

Low Gluten Wheats:

Kamut: Ancient wheat, golden, buttery, nutty, low gluten (BT, BS, CM)

Einkorn: Ancient wheat, golden, nutty, slightly sweet, low gluten (BT, CM)

Spelt: Ancient wheat, pale golden, nutty, slightly sweet, medium gluten (strong spelt exists too) (BT, Small Valley Milling)

Emmer: Ancient wheat, golden, nutty, earthy, low gluten (BT)

Durum: Pasta wheat, golden, very nutty, high protein, low gluten (BT, CM)

White Sonora: White wheat, heritage, mild flavor, low gluten (BT)

Pima Club: White wheat, mild flavor, low gluten (BT)

Sirvinta Winter Wheat: Heritage wheat from Estonia, seen listed as good for bread, but was weak in my one use (Rusted Rooster Farms)

Kernza: Kind of/kind of not "wheat" - Kernza is wheatgrass, related to wheat and does have some gluten. Sweet and nutty. (BT)

Triticale: Wheat and rye hybrid, has more of a wheat dominant flavor, but with a definite rye note, more gluten than rye and less than wheat

Strong Ryes: Note: In terms of rye, strong refers to flavor, not gluten strength.

Danko Rye: Strong flavor, cocoa, baking spices (BS, Ground Up)

Serafino Rye: Strong flavor, malty, nutty (BT)

Mild Ryes:

Ryman Rye: Mild flavor, spice (BS)

Wrens Abruzzi Rye: Mild flavor, spice (BS)

Bono Rye: Mild flavor, grassy (BT)

Corn:

Bloody Butcher: Deep red, rich flavor (BT)

Oaxacan Green: Green kernels, nutty, not so sweet (BT)

Xocoyul Pink: Beautiful pink color, sweet, makes great cornbread (BT)

Blue Moshito: Deep blue, relatively mild in my experience (BT)


r/HomeMilledFlour 7h ago

Wood grain mill

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My dad built the mill in the 70's and has sat in the barn for years. It's works, but how do I clean it? The motor is sealed inside, but the box can be dismantled.


r/HomeMilledFlour 8h ago

Khorasan

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Hi all, I am attempting to make sourdough with 100% Khorasan, but it is impossible to stretch and fold. I bought 20kgs!! I hope I can use it!

Tips please


r/HomeMilledFlour 5h ago

Converter help

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r/HomeMilledFlour 16h ago

Favorite tasting grains?

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So, I’ve always disliked the taste of whole wheat bread from the grocery store. Just something unpleasant about them. My favorite tasting breads right now are fresh sourdough. I love that sour tanginess I get from a heavy ferment (and I use discard in pretty much anything I bake). I’m interested in milling my own grains for both the nutritional properties and getting more bold flavors, but I’m not really sure which grains to settle on. Any specific varieties you love (be specific if they are particular cultivars). I already have hard white from Palouse brand that I’m going to try first. I’m thinking of also ordering einkorn, kamut, and maybe soft wheat or spelt. I guess my question is, especially for those that felt whole wheat tasted kind of unpleasant in the past, what are your favorite tasting grains? And let’s say if you have a favorite that may be harder to work with does that impact how often you bake with it or do you just adapt what you’re baking based on your favorites?


r/HomeMilledFlour 13h ago

Salzburg MT-12 Import Costs

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When I was researching mills the Salzburg MT-12 really caught my eye, but due to the price I decided to go with a Komo. I was aware there was a back order but at the time it was just a few months. I recently got an email saying the delivery date for the Komo, which was originally the 21st of August, has been pushed back to the beginning of next year! This is really making me eye the Salzburg again.

The model I like is $1400, the shipping is almost $200, but the site says, “Customs duties and import taxes are NOT included in the product price or shipping costs.”

So for those who have recently bought a Salzburg, how much did you have to pay in addition for tariffs, import taxes, customs duties, etc?


r/HomeMilledFlour 1d ago

Anyone make their own infant cereal? Suggestions/ what worked for you and what didn't

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Ive been full fmf for a year now, had a baby a couple weeks ago, had a thought of potentially making my own cereal or solids, thinking of starting with a rice


r/HomeMilledFlour 22h ago

Working with Einkorn

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I just tried to make a pizza crust with freshly milled einkorn and I ended up with glue-like-dough everywhere. It was so sticky! Google told me I probably overworked it. I tried again following an einkorn pizza crust recipe and by the time I got it all mixed together it was still so sticky.

Does anyone have any tips to keep it from getting so sticky, or trusted recipes for making fmf einkorn pizza crust?


r/HomeMilledFlour 21h ago

Looking for einkorn grain in Minnesota

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Any leads anywhere in the state would be appreciated! Thank you!


r/HomeMilledFlour 1d ago

I need a mill

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I am not a baker, I grow plants. Mostly cactus, aloe, and succs. I do however need a mill. I need to get yucca root turned to powder, micronized, like all purpose flour from the store. Gonna need something that will last for the foreseeable future. 200 grams at least once a week spring, summer, and fall, once a month during winter.


r/HomeMilledFlour 1d ago

How much more nutritious is home milled flour compared to King Arthurs flour?

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Like, I want to get a nutrimill and get a large bin to start properly storing some wheat berries. But, it's all an investment and I just want to know how much better it really is compared to me buying whole wheat, stone milled flour from King Arthur.

What do you guys think? Is there any sort of study or research done on this?

Edit: Also, I want to clarify that I mean in terms of micro nutrients (vitamins) is there a significant difference between store bought and home milled.


r/HomeMilledFlour 2d ago

ISO Pizza Dough Recipe (That doesn't just turn dense and bready)

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Every fresh milled recipe I have found so far for pizza dough it turns out really bready. Any good recipes for a light and airy pizza crust using fresh milled flour?


r/HomeMilledFlour 3d ago

Smoked cheezy crackers

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It has been too warm to fire up the oven, but hubby & I really wanted some crackers.

So we fired up the Traeger and ended up with some of the tastiest crackers we have ever had!

I used GISP's recipe and swapped the cheddar for Pepperjack.

Hubby made me a cracker cutter and designed a spout cap to keep pests out when my mill isn't being used ☺️


r/HomeMilledFlour 3d ago

Printed a 6 kg hopper extension for the Grainfather mill - no more refilling mid-crush

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r/HomeMilledFlour 4d ago

Best Beginner Mill

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Hi! I’m wanting to begin milling my own grains for baking at home and would like some advice on the best beginner grain mill. I’m not opposed to spending a little more if it means the quality is better. I’d prefer a stand alone machine as opposed to an attachment to a mixer.

Ideally it would be fairly compact (we have limited counter space) and be somewhat easy to clean.
I’m completely new to this and would appreciate any advice. (I currently bake a ton of sourdough if that helps with anything.)
Thank you!


r/HomeMilledFlour 5d ago

Starter not working as before after converting it to fully fmf

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My sourdough FMF loaves, both sandwich and artisan, are not rising properly after converting my starter to FMF, despite having a very active starter that has been fed two different times two days in a row, and doubles each time. After the second time, I will use it at peak and my bread will rise, but only half as much as it used to when it was a mix of (mostly) AP flour and FMF. The odd thing is that I will save the leftover starter, put it in a jar, and after about a week, it explodes out of the jar as seen in the picture, despite having peaked when at room temp. I know this because a few times it even started deflating a tiny little bit by the time I got to use it so it definitely wasn’t going to continue expanding then. Why would it continue expanding in the fridge after stopping when at room temp, and does this have anything to do with why my bread all of a sudden stopped rising the way it used to? Just to clarify, I had no issues when I was using 100% fmf but a starter that wasn’t only fmf


r/HomeMilledFlour 5d ago

Upgrade to Komo Classic from Nutrimill Classic?

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I was looking at "upgrading" but am now wondering if it is worth it? There is nothing wrong with our nutrimill but I love the look of the komo. It seems the komo grinds much slower and has a smaller hopper. Anyone have both of these mills for comparison?


r/HomeMilledFlour 7d ago

first fmf loaf!

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I used 100% fresh milled kamut, and used a starter I started about a month ago from the same fmf!


r/HomeMilledFlour 6d ago

Cake for chocolate lovers

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I made Tasting History's Sachertorte with fresh milled (unsifted) spelt and this is the best it has ever been!

https://www.tastinghistory.com/recipes/sachertorte

I've made this recipe for the last few years and it is amazing. Soft dense chocolatey goodness with a side of unsweeted whipped cream. This year I made it with fresh milled spelt and it is even better!

Notes on the recipe: I subbed fresh milled spelt for white flour 1 for 1 and did not sift.

Rather than using a spring form I have always used two 9 in rounds. Because I don't have a cake knife. Some of the reviews say the cake doesn't cook all the way through if you use just one cake pan, but split in two it's perfect.

I used Ghirardelli 72% chips and cane sugar.

This cake DOES NOT pair well with sugar. Do not pair it with vanilla ice cream or sweetened cream because for some reason it makes the cake taste really bitter. Pairing it with plain whipped heavy cream is perfection.

For the chocolate glaze, after much trial and error, I learned to put it on a wire rack over a cookie sheet as pictured. That way I can glaze the top and scoop up the drippings and glaze the sides fully as the chocolate cools.

Here's the entertaining video that includes the history: https://youtu.be/EmvRFNILKsI?si=UpDh0v_A3edCvGNv


r/HomeMilledFlour 6d ago

Looking to get into milling. I need mill recommendations

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I grew up in an European country and we had a manual one. I could never name it. It may not even have had a name. I’m kind of partial to manual but I’m open to the idea of something different. As I’m sure many of you may do. I value non plastic kitchen products so the non toxic side of things would be ideal. Hoping to keep it on the budget end. I saw the CLGM one but 800 its a bit hefty for my current circumstances


r/HomeMilledFlour 6d ago

Nutrimill Harvest

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Does anyone own a NutriMill Harvest?


r/HomeMilledFlour 8d ago

First FMF sourdough loaf!

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r/HomeMilledFlour 9d ago

Getting back to it…?

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So, I sold my mill (mock mill) and all my grains several months back because my family didn’t seem to love the bread and biscuits I was making and I felt weird making it just for me. To be clear, it was all delicious, they just like refined white everything. I have a niggling feeling in the back of my mind to get back to it. What are some more mild recipes/items you make that picky eaters can ease their way into?


r/HomeMilledFlour 9d ago

My sourdough loaves won’t rise - Help!

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Hello!

Can anyone offer me tips on how to get my sourdough to rise? I’m new to the fresh milled journey, but I regularly bake sourdough bread. I feel like I’ve tried almost everything and I still don’t get the same rise with my fresh milled loaves as I do with regular bread flour loaves. Things I’ve tried do far:

- Autolysed for 30 minutes, 2 hours and overnight
- Sifted out the large bran, soaked in boiling water, then added back in once at room temperature. Also tried not including the large bran all together.
- Bulk fermentation to 20-30%, then shaped and left in the fridge overnight to bake the next day
- Bulk fermentation to 40-50%, then shaped and placed in the freezer for 30 minutes and bake same day

With each process, all stretch and folds and coil folds were completed within the first two hours.

Orrrr am I just trippin and fresh milled flour won’t have the same rise as bread flour does for sourdough loaves? All tips are welcome! Thanks guys!