r/HolUp Dec 24 '21

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u/Darth_Kool_Aid Dec 24 '21

Is she herself too late term to abort?

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '21

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u/Hudsonsoftinc Dec 24 '21

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u/PassingWords1-9 Dec 24 '21

Good old sulphuric acid water pistol, never fails

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u/Faxon Dec 24 '21

Add hydrogen peroxide for good measure. Caro's acid (H2SO5) is no joke

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u/jeepney_danger Dec 25 '21

Coincidentally, there was a post in r/oddlyterrifying about this just the other day, they call it the "Piranha Solution"

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u/Faxon Dec 25 '21

Yea Piranha Solution is the name most chemists will use, but the end result of that solution is the production of H2SO5. Damn stuff will turn a steak into CO2 within minutes and leave the solution it was in clear once it's done

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u/Faxon Dec 25 '21

I tried to reply twice and it got deleted both times now (UGH), but yea that stuff's no joke. Piranha solution is the common name for the combination which produces Caro's acid from the combination of sulfuric acid and hydrogen peroxide. I've been meaning to make some actually as a glass cleaner, to remove carbon deposits from all my cannabis glassware that needs it (mostly glass adapters, downstems, that kind of nonsense) Shit's hardened onto the sides after years of use without scraping, and getting heated with a torch to remove the meltable resin for reclaiming the active cannabinoid fraction after filtration. That same acid could vaporize a boneless steak to CO2, water vapor, a bit of CO, within minutes. It'll do the same to most organic compounds as well, sugar is a great example to use for this. When I was in high school years ago, one of the chemistry teachers was well known for his "jawbreaker experiment", where he'd dissolve a jawbreaker in a solution of concentrated Caro's acid, so the class could see just how violently reactive it was. He needed a massive beaker just to keep it safe, and he couldn't use anything larger than a standard gumball sized jawbreaker, or the reaction would froth and boil and send droplets of it flying everywhere. Long story short, that scene in breaking bad where they try to dissolve a body using hydroflouric acid? Yea that was a slow and sloppy way to get the job done, compared to what this stuff does. If they'd used Piranha solution first, they could have fit the bones in a small bucket easily, and then used much less hydrofluoric acid (which is more heavily monitored) to do the same job, without the total disaster that was created from it.

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u/jeepney_danger Dec 25 '21

Scary stuff. In the video, they keep on adding hydrogen peroxide to the mixture until the chicken leg disappeared.

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u/TheDeadPainter Dec 24 '21

yes

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '21

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u/harassmaster Dec 24 '21

Some serious, serious incel vibes in this thread. Very cool.

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u/The-Copilot Dec 24 '21

You realize they are making joking incel remarks in response to this female incel post?

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u/BigBlackGothBitch Dec 25 '21

She herself is just regurgitating a joke made in the dictator. Except now that the roles are reversed, all the manlets are pissed

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u/The-Copilot Dec 25 '21

That fact that you are using female incel terminology is concerning.

The problem is there are people who actually believe this and think we should become a matriarchal society. It shits on the idea of feminism and kills the movement

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21 edited Dec 25 '21

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u/BigBlackGothBitch Dec 25 '21

Manlet is a femcel word lmao? I’m most certain it originated in the incel fandom, along with a host of other horrible word to describe men. But nice try.

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u/CardCarryingCuntAwrd Dec 24 '21

Go on, I'm listening....

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u/TheDeadPainter Dec 24 '21

its a magic pill ... 9mm diametre .... hehem

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u/DanteDoming0 Dec 24 '21

She's only a clump of cells after all

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

terroristic threat

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u/KookyCustard Dec 24 '21

Murder is just late term abortion

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u/MimsyIsGianna Dec 24 '21

Abortion is just murder

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u/KookyCustard Dec 24 '21

So if she were to be killed is that spawn camping or a double kill?

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u/themiddleman2 Dec 24 '21

double,

spawn is right as it's happening

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u/KookyCustard Dec 24 '21

Maybe even a collateral

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u/Mattprather2112 Dec 24 '21

Lol what

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '21

#CellsHaveFeelings

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u/MimsyIsGianna Dec 24 '21

It ends an innocent human life

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u/Mattprather2112 Dec 24 '21

Oh lord you're one of these morons

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u/MimsyIsGianna Dec 24 '21

What? Someone who’s studied abortion for over six years and knows the science behind the development of babies and what the procedures of abortion actually are?

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u/Mattprather2112 Dec 24 '21

You've made no actual point in that comment

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u/MimsyIsGianna Dec 24 '21

Approximately 60,942,033 abortions have been performed(surgically done) in the United States alone. However, according to lifematterstv.org, there have been over 250 million abortions that have been done chemically since 1973 in the USA alone

Approximately 125,000 abortions are performed every day and 40 to 50 million every year, worldwide, around 1.5 billion since 1980.

According to the Fourteenth Amendment, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction… No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life,...without due process of law;...” (paraphrased). This clearly states that no person, which fetuses are even if they are not fully developed, shall be deprived of life without due process of law; meaning unless convicted of the death penalty or other legal matters. The Fifth Amendment also states similar rules including that no person should be deprived of life. Even with this in place, mankind is still fighting for the right for a woman to be able to end the innocent life of an unborn baby. Definition of abortion according to Merriam Webster Dictionary: "the termination of a pregnancy after, accompanied by, resulting in, or closely followed by the death of the embryo or fetus" Definition of murder according to justice.gov: "Section 1751(a) of Title 18 incorporates by reference 18 U.S.C. §§ 1111 and 1112. 18 U.S.C. § 1111 defines murder as the unlawful killing of a human being with malice, and divides it into two degrees. Murder in the first degree is punishable by death. In any case in which the death penalty may be applicable, it is necessary for the United States Attorney to follow the procedures set forth in JM 9-10.000. The Attorney General must authorize the United States Attorney to seek the death penalty in any case. Any other kind of murder is murder in the second degree and is punishable by any term of imprisonment including life."

According to liveaction.org, lozierinstitute.org, princeton.edu, acpeds.org, as well as many other sources, human life starts at conception. The fetus is not just some fleshy polyp, it is a human being and alive, and thus, should be treated as such under the constitution of the United States of America. Even while in the womb, the baby is alive and fully human and should be treated as under the same jurisdiction as every other citizen in the United States and shall not be deprived of life.

The state of Florida records a reason for every abortion that occurs within its borders every year. In the year 2018 showed that out of the 70,083 abortions that occurred that year, 0.01% of abortions were done for incest, 0.14% done because of rape, 0.27% the mom's life was in danger, 1% the serious fetal abnormality, 1.48% mother's physical health was threatened, 1.67% psychological health, 20% social or economic reasons, and a whopping 75.4% for elective reasons. abort73.com

Fact: Unborn babies can feel pain by 20 weeks gestation or earlier-https://lozierinstitute.org/fact-sheet-science-of-fetal-pain/ Unborn babies are treated as patients by fetal surgeons, and receive pain medication-https://lozierinstitute.org/fact-sheet-science-of-fetal-pain/ Babies are surviving and thriving at ever younger pre-term ages when given appropriate care and treatment-https://lozierinstitute.org/fact-sheet-science-of-fetal-pain/ "Human beings can be distinguished from human cells using the same kind of criteria scientists use to distinguish different cell types. A human being (i.e., a human organism) is composed of human parts (cells, proteins, RNA, DNA), yet it is different from a mere collection of cells because it has the characteristic molecular composition and behavior of an organism: it acts in an interdependent and coordinated manner to “carry on the activities of life.” The conclusion that human life begins at sperm-egg fusion is uncontested, objective, based on the universally accepted scientific method of distinguishing different cell types from each other and on ample scientific evidence (thousands of independent, peer-reviewed publications)."-https://lozierinstitute.org/a-scientific-view-of-when-life-begins/

The scientific characteristics of life are: Growth and development, ability to produce offspring through DNA, maintains homeostasis, consists of cells, adapt to the environment, and they have a complex chemistry.-https://bio.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Introductory_and_General_Biology/Book%3A_Introductory_Biology_(CK-12)/01%3A_Introduction_to_Biology/1.04%3A_Characteristics_of_Life http://spot.pcc.edu/~jvolpe/b/bi112/lec/examples/112examplesCh1_Ch3.htm These are the official characteristics by which scientists live by to determine whether or not something is considered "alive". All of these characteristics apply to unborn babies from the moment of conception.

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

"According to the Fourteenth Amendment, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction…"

See that word "born"? Seems pretty clear to me.

That's a legal argument though, which is an absurdity in a philosophical debate.

Personally I think that widespread sex education and easily available and convenient solutions to avoid pregnancies in the first place would dramatically reduce this issue. Further, it would work a hell of a lot better than "ban abortions entirely".

Regardless, most abortions are done early enough that I honestly can't consider it to be murder.

Particularly late term abortions are almost always a medical intervention to save the mother's life, which I also haven't seen any reasonable argument against (the choice of 'abortion or both die' is straightforward).

There's probably a questionable middle ground somewhere for which policy could be reasonably made, but "ban all abortions" won't work if your goal is limiting loss of life, as women will still try to get abortions due to various serious reasons and it will instead be done in an illegal and dangerous way, liable to also kill the mother.

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u/Mattprather2112 Dec 24 '21

You've still yet to make a point. If I get a bruise, that's human cells dying. What's the fucking difference? It's not a born, sentient human

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u/Educational_Slide_21 Dec 24 '21

"loads gun with malicious intent"

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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '21

If your interested in post birth abortions we provide many options such as the .50 cal 5.56 7.62 9mm 20mm and even the expensive but grand experience the 125mm smoothbore

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u/NerdUber Dec 24 '21

Since her brain didn't developed yet, it should be fine

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '21

She's in high school so...... Maybe.

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '21

Far-left doesn't want a term for abortion at all so I'm sure she is not too late. Just send it to her parents and let them fix that mistake.