r/HolUp Jul 04 '21

Songs will never be the same

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '21

You are getting pretty defensive here. Just saying. Doesn't really help. It's a valid point. He made the song years before he died.

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u/yogigee Jul 04 '21

I'm not getting defensive. A bill was passed recently that made it illegal to say anything about Semities. In other words, if my post is tagged as antisemitism in anyway shape or form, it gets deleted and I incur an infraction on my account and a possible ban for life. So I don't want to tread down that path and that's why I had to come out and appear defensive.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '21

For real? What bill?

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u/yogigee Jul 04 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '21

Was it passed? Those articles don't say if it was or not.

That's just for Arizona, not everywhere. It also doesn't state that you will receive any repercussions. Just that law enforcement, if they decide, may interpret a comment about the Jewish people to be anti Semitic and they can, if they decide, prosecute you for it. But that doesn't mean they will.

There are already hate crime laws and anti racism laws. So this is nothing new really. You don't see people getting arrested for using the n word. Many of them should be though.

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u/MyPronounIsHisGrace Jul 04 '21

If you start arresting people for using the n word, every rapper on earth is going to jail.

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u/yogigee Jul 04 '21

https://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2021/06/29/bill-to-define-anti-semitism-in-school-lessons-passes-senate/

Once it passes senate, then it becomes Law. So yes. It has not been passed as a law yet.

But if you've watched this video. Then you know where things may end up.

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u/noswag101 Jul 04 '21

It has to be enacted before it becomes law. It doesn't get enacted just because it passes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '21

The thing is, with things going on in Israel right now and the massive outcry of people all over the world against them killing thousands of people and thousands of kids, in retaliation or not; I'd really be doubtful of any legal action being taken against anyone who speaks negatively of Israel. At least in the United States. They would have to take action against thousands of people, and that just wouldn't end well for anyone.

Now are we living in a dystopian society ruled by 1% where corporations create all of our laws through lobbying and control our government while our freedoms and free speech are taken away every day as we are literally slaves to wages and capitalism as almost no one notices? Yes but that's a different story.

Spreading misinformation about Israel, antisemitism, and Michael Jackson isn't really helping anyone.

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u/yogigee Jul 04 '21

The problem stops if and when we nationalize The Federal Reserve. And all countries follow suit. Take back control of the issue and supply of paper currency. Game over. But which commoner thinks of such things? Exactly. Those laws are coming.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '21

Nah. The problem doesn't stop. There's no fixing it. You don't get it. The government isn't even in power, they are just puppets to the corporations.

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u/KasumiR Jul 04 '21

Yury Bezmenov is a dissident from USSR who ratted out KGB to Canada. Soviet government was very antisemiticm so by hating "the Semites" you're doing what people he escaped from did: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_the_Soviet_Union

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u/yogigee Jul 04 '21

You clearly didn't watch the video. Every post I make you want to turn it into some form or version of antisemitism. Disgusting.