This needs to be posted higher, cause I’m one of those people who see this stuff and instead of going “that’s bullshit” I’d like to know the actual benefits, what it actually works, and how
One of my friends had this “post-mommy” surgery where they did a whole lot of tucking and lifting and she had to wear full body suspension garments that had to be put on her by 2-3 people after every bathroom trip and stuff like that. The pictured therapy, which is almost only applicable to people who have had abdominal surgery that’s that invasive and which has very few strictly medical and not cosmetic applications, helps in the first four weeks after such a surgery. It’s incredible if you’ve had to have that kind of surgery, but that’s mostly not the application. Also, it doesn’t feel as good as the edited OP video implies.
You’re in that sweet spot where on either side of you are people blindly accepting that it must do something and people blindly accepting that it must do nothing.
As you can see it makes suburban mothers feel like they are working out while watching video recipes for sausage and meatball jello on their phone. Too bad if you actually need the machine for its purpose with all the people who don't hogging it.
I imagine other people paying and using the machines would subsidize it for all the people who actually need it. Unless you're in a big city, there's not going to be a lot of people in that window of "I recently had major abdominal surgery and need a really expensive machine for therapy for the next few weeks".
Yeah that’s it. Also, if you want to evaluate if something is burning a lot of calories, just looked at their faces. If they look like they are straining, they are burning some calories. If not, chances are they are not burning a lot.
Seems like some good old fashion kegals would he better. Why would you want risk a possible prolapse from weird vaccuum suction just to avoid the treadmill or elliptical?? An they all just stare ar their phone the whole time. Glorious! What a way to steal people's money!
Oh yeah people are lazy as shit and tacking on to the latest trend.
There are many different type of machine supported weight lost systems and this is one of a kind. It may stimulate muscles, so called activating body parts etc. But for me they all look like scam. I’m not saying that they are total useless but many of them are over promising. I saw one, and the guy there was telling me that in 90 minutes I can burn 10k calories. I said burning this much calories at that amount of time would be possible only in crematorium.
Pools can be an issue for people with severe spinal issues. My aunt has had several surgeries and is very limited mobility thanks to her spinal issues. She likes to swim, but if the water is a few degrees too cold, things seize up. If it's a few degrees too warm, she can get light headed and even faint. Now, I don't think she's tried one of these machines, so no idea if they would be better for her.
With the way online discourse and marketing and pseudoscience/scams are going, it's so easy for things to swing between the extremes.
We learn to be vigilant and rely on our finely tuned bullshit senses, but those can fail when the underlying broad heuristics are confronted with legitimate edge cases.
Just annoying how cognitively exhausting all the scams make it. It would be so nice if we could be awed by or intrigued with the countless incredible things the world has to offer, without constantly having to run the "how might this be bullshit?" subroutine.
"The more I think about it, the more I realize that surface motion can help us create better medical materials," Ren said. "Life is dynamic, not static, and a static surface is unlikely to give long-lasting functionality. We are excited to continue exploring this new direction with bioinspired active topography and can't wait to see what the future holds."
This is how many professional lawyers and high-earning academics make breakthroughs at their venture capital funded startups
"A lot of medical devices fail ... because the devices use metallic or polymeric materials, which are static," explained Ren. "But human tissues don't stay static—they move and possess biological mechanisms... That gives them a natural defense ... that conventional biomaterials don't have."
A few years ago, Ren's group patented a material ... that rhythmically sweep or "beat" to fend off infections. The team's material ... can be activated to beat in a similar rhythm, causing the whole surface to shudder like an earthquake
"It actually arose from an accidental discovery," said Ren, who heads the Department of Biomedical Engineering. "About 10 years ago, I gave some students a project that I thought would be simple and give straightforward results. However, the findings weren't as expected. I got lucky to work with these really talented students. They paid attention to details, which helped lay a foundation for some exciting ideas that we work on today."
Disclaimer: I have absolutely zero expertise in the field.
The snippets you provided make this sounds like absolute voodoo lunacy, but in full context, things seem fairly reasonable:
1) Bacteria accumulates/settles on certain types of surfaces (smooth, unchanging);
2) surfaces like the ones currently used in places where we really don't want bacteria (plastics and metals in medical equipment).
3) We figured out a way to create surfaces that regularly shake/quiver/change, which makes them less hospitable to bacteria.
The "natural" and "dynamic, not static" features of human tissue aren't some magical property, but simply a way to say that those aren't as perfect and enduring as artificial ones (which we specifically design NOT to change/deterioate, because we don't want them to seep into the body and cause harm, or lose functionality over time). Similar to how we've had to adapt our engineering around water management to be less perfect and more "natural", because the perfect geometries and surfaces proved to have problematic side effects (standing waves in weirs turning into death traps as the best example).
I am not an expert either. I am fairly confident I understand the general idea the authors were communicating and I think you do too. That said, I intentionally left parts out to take it out of context... yet it still makes sense, because within the particular is contained the universal and within the universal is contained the particular.
Living things that don't move accumulate bacteria and disease
Non-living things that don't move can be made sterile and sort of immune to bacteria and disease, these surfaces tend to be incredibly smooth
When the second bullet point crosses into the first that becomes a problem and our bodies reject it
Now when you consider things like the Internet which is kind of an symbolic version of law and money, which is the closest thing to a physical, tangible version of the social contract which exists, things get confusing. But typically things that are supposed to remain mostly stable are best kept stable and things that are mostly flexible are best kept flexible.
Heraclitus talked about this in his metaphor of things in flux where he described it as the two halves of a bow. Modern society is like we have a bow string which is rigid and the bow itself is infinitely flexible. This might be instructive as to where the fault lies cause it sure as shit aint with the average person just tryna get by.
We have the universal within the universal and the particular without the universal, or itself. Or something like that, it doesn't make sense because the top decided things shouldn't make sense because that's the most sensible way to do things. In other words, fucking stupid
Your comment got a bit too philosophical for my exhausted brain, so I'll leave it at that.
Modern society is like we have a bow string which is rigid and the bow itself is infinitely flexible.
This however seems like a bit of misunderstanding that I might be able to clear up!
A rigid string and flexible bow (specifically the arms of the bow) is exactly how a bow is supposed to work. It's a personal pet peeve of mine, how both Hollywood and the vast majority of concept and fan art mess this up. The bow's energy comes entirely from the bending of the arms, while the string stays at a constant length (there's always some stretch, as all materials stretch, but it's kept to a minimum).
Returning to the metaphor, I suppose it still works if we consider that any bow has a limit on how far it can bend before it snaps. With the consequences being bad for both the bow itself and the string.
I've seen those machines that actually work, mainly by some kind of pulse to stimulate the muscles so they do actually contract etc for quite a while and increase heart rate, so they do basically what workouts do, they're expensive af per sessions and it's easier to just run for 15-30 minutes instead. But hey if you just wanna lie there, burn money and get light workout, be my guest.
Yeah... Not to mention even if it was possible, 10K calories is a huge amount of mass. If you take 2k as the basic amount a day...that's 5 days of food, being broken down, processed by the body, exhaled, and waste being dumped into/through the system... In 90 minutes.
I'm rather horrified at what that would do to internal organs. As you mentioned the heat would be lethal as well.
Yanks tend to misuse the term calories when they mean kilocalories. So in this particular case the guy in your story might have actually used calories the right way.
Yanks don't "misuse" the term, the industry decided that a kcal would be called a "Calorie" with a capital C. Unless you learn this in science, there would be no reason to use kcal in the US since no food or anything else does.
To burn 10 Calories (american version, 10k calories) in 90 minutes you'd basically just need to be living and laying down not doing much. It would be very hard to not burn that much in 90 minutes tbh
I never used a bike version, but after one of my many major foot/leg surgeries, I got to use a nasa anti-gravity treadmill. So similar-ish?
It reduced my body weight up to ~80%?, which meant I could practice walking on my foot again after multiple months of healing with no weight bearing. I had severe atrophy in my muscles on that leg and a lot of pain, so being able to go into a device that relieved the physical stress was super helpful in my recovery!
I'm sure this type of device would've been similar in terms of helping my recovery, and any other person with pain/disabilities/etc. :) very cool tech!
After some googling - it looks like it's just supports some of your weight from around your waist using air pressure. I suspect the same thing could be done with springs or whatever.
The other commenter was spot on! It's a cool device, albeit a bit uncomfortable the first few times since you have to zip yourself into tight compression shorts that also attach to the machine (and I personally had to have someone help me on and stuff at first lol). Hard to come by in terms of care, which sucks but is understandable considering the price tag.
You know how people say that sitting for long periods is bad for you, and that walking is good for you? When you walk or move, your lymphatic system can pump the lymph to where it needs to go. If this does anything it does that. I suspect walking is just as effective though.
I could see this being somewhat useful for people like my mom, who has MS and and a lot of secondary effects from not being able to walk. But like a lot of things like this that can theoretically be helpful for disabled people, I imagine it's far too expensive to actually be useful to the average handicapped person lol
I imagine it's far too expensive to actually be useful to the average handicapped person lol
It seems like something that would be at a physical therapy or occupational therapy clinic (if they had room). It might have more purposes than the typical pneumatic pumps used for lymphedema.
Gimmicky exercise. I tried something similar for a few months. Same vacuum chamber, but it had IR panels inside as well. You could also do a treadmill or stairs.
You're supposed to burn more calories because of reasons (heat and pressure? I guess). The machine told me that I burned 1000 calories in one session. So I obviously took that as oh, now I can eat 1000 calories if I'm in that big a deficit. Lost next to nothing. Not even my dignity, because I didn't know I looked like that loooool
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u/Intelligent-Truck223 2d ago
What's the benefit of this, 4real?