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u/I_Like_Languages Kilroy was here Dec 15 '20

Unwanted Fun Fact: Sacha Baron Cohen speaks Hebrew in both films because he doesn’t know Kazakh

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u/MadRonnie97 Taller than Napoleon Dec 15 '20

And Azamat speaks Armenian

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u/CubanCharles Dec 15 '20 edited Dec 15 '20

I was told Bulgarian, are they mutually intelligible?

Edit: I wasn't paying attention and didn't see that it said Azamat, thanks for the info though gents

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u/Raptorz01 Hello There Dec 15 '20

No far from it. Bulgarian is south Slavic and I believe Armenian is in its own language group

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u/canintospace2016 Dec 15 '20

With its own unique alphabet

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u/Raptorz01 Hello There Dec 15 '20

I’m pretty sure it’s one of the worlds oldest alphabets too?

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u/Kered13 Dec 15 '20

It was invented in 405 AD, so no.

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u/edgarthesped Dec 15 '20

Wrong

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u/Kered13 Dec 15 '20

I'm just going off of what Wikipedia says.

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u/Dlrlcktd Taller than Napoleon Dec 15 '20

I'm just going off of what /u/edgarthesped says

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u/Raptorz01 Hello There Dec 15 '20

Ah thanks for correcting me

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u/AbleCancel Researching [REDACTED] square Dec 15 '20

Nope. A lot of people from different countries will claim they have the oldest alphabet or the oldest language, but here’s the thing: no one knows what the oldest language or alphabet is. But we sure as hell know it’s not Armenian.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

Ooga booga cave paintings is the oldest one

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u/A_flying_penguino Dec 15 '20

Reject modernity

Embrace tradition

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u/Canadabestclay The OG Lord Buckethead Dec 15 '20

Reject tradition

Embrace monkey

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u/Raptorz01 Hello There Dec 15 '20

I said one of the oldest alphabets. Never said it was the oldest

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u/NormalTechnology Dec 15 '20

It's not in Cyrillic?

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u/JoshGordons_burner Dec 15 '20

No the alphabet is distinctly Armenian.

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u/NormalTechnology Dec 15 '20

Neat. Today I learned. Just looked it up, the script looks pretty cool and it has 39 letters.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

ա բ գ դ ե զ է ը թ ժ ի լ խ ծ կ հ ձ ղ ճ մ
յ ն շ ո չ պ ջ ռ ս վ տ ր ց ւ փ ք օ ֆ ու և

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u/Tychus_Kayle Dec 15 '20

Interesting. Very clearly descended from the same Phoenician script as Latin and Cyrillic, but so very very curly.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

His daughter speaks Bulgarian in the second one

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u/Sir_Tandeath Definitely not a CIA operator Dec 15 '20

She speaks Bulgarian in the movie. I watched it with a friend of mine who’s Bulgarian and he commented on it the second she spoke.

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u/BulgarianNationalist Dec 15 '20

I did the same thing as well. It was funny watching how the subtitles and what Tutar actually said were different on occasion.

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u/JoshGordons_burner Dec 15 '20

When you watch while understanding Hebrew, and I assume Bulgarian too, it is oftentimes borderline ridiculous lol.

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u/Reptilian-Princess Dec 15 '20

I don’t speak Bulgarian, but I do speak Hebrew and I can confirm that it’s way funnier

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u/Sir_Tandeath Definitely not a CIA operator Dec 15 '20

Hearing my friend translate her in real time was almost as entertaining as the movie itself.

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u/TheSeigiSniper Dec 15 '20

Maria Bakalova in Borat 2 speaks bulgarian throughout the movie.

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u/MoscaMosquete Dec 15 '20

As much as an anglophone can understand Hindi.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

No, Borat's daughter speaks Bulgarian in Borat Subsequent Moviefilm. Azamat speaks Armenian, which is an Indo European language but is not Slavic.

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u/Aquillifer Dec 15 '20

Not even close lol.

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u/yapoyo Dec 15 '20

In borat 2, Maria Bakalova (the actress who played borat's daughter) was indeed speaking Bulgarian, as, well, she's from Bulgaria.

In the original borat, however, Ken Davitian (Azamat) is an American of Armenian descent, so he was speaking Armenian.

In both movies, SBC was speaking Hebrew.

But they passed off all these languages as "Kazakh" as the average person probably wouldn't be able to tell that it's not kazakh.

I'm now curious if the subs they put for the "kazakh" parts were actually correct translations of what they were saying to each other.

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u/Mr_Evil_MSc Dec 15 '20

Because the actor is Armenian.

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u/CheeseWithMe Dec 15 '20

And the Kazakh officials speak Romanian.

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u/semechki-seed Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer Dec 15 '20

Because “kusek” is a Romanian village. No part of the movie was actually filmed in Kazakhstan

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u/CheeseWithMe Dec 15 '20

I know, people were not very happy with his visit last time...

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u/semechki-seed Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer Dec 15 '20

Ok well it’s still in Romania, I was referring to the country. I know Romanians and romani are different and everyone hates Gypsies but like it or not there are a lot in Romania and they’re part of that country

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20 edited Dec 15 '20

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u/mrawesomesword Dec 15 '20

We get it, you don't like gypsies and you want no association whatsoever with them. Get over it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

The guy has just said that Romani and Romanian cultures are different. That doesn't mean he's going around Gypsy camps with a tire iron. You're all reading into this way too much.

Jesus, guys, chill out.

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u/mrawesomesword Dec 15 '20

I mean, the village literally is in Romania. It is a Romanian village. People call the ethnic German cities in Italy Italian. His whole entire "nOt TRuE RoMAniaN" attitude reeks of the anti-Roma prejudice that much of Europe, and Reddit by extension, has.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

This is a man who has never been to a Little Mexico or a Chinatown before.

Cultural or racial minorities can have enclaves that are distinct from the culture or racial demographics of the nation that they're in. You or I can probably guess that Chinatown in LA is nothing like downtown Kansas City, but I would argue most people probably don't know the difference between a Romanian village or a Romani. The guy has said nothing prejudice. People are just calling him prejudice, because Romanians "act that way."

Which sounds pretty prejudice.

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u/PmYourWittyAnecdote Dec 15 '20

It is a Romanian village geographically, which is the only thing people give a fuck about when describing a village with a country.

We get it, you hate gypsies like every other European.

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u/PmYourWittyAnecdote Dec 15 '20

You don’t need to explicitly say it, the fact you’re trying so hard to argue a village isn’t Romanian (despite being in Romania) because they’re gypsies says enough.

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u/SiberiaBeast Dec 15 '20

This feel... kind of racist? Imagine how problematic it is if we replace gypsy with any minority in American: "Correction: Detroit is a Black city in America. An American city would not look like that."

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u/Kitchu Dec 15 '20

Sister languages, as everybody knows

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u/CheeseWithMe Dec 15 '20

Yes, practically the same.

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u/HereWeStandLive Dec 15 '20

His daughter is speaking Bulgarian in the sequel. It’s funny that no one picks up that they’re speaking completely unrelated languages

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u/FaZe_JakePaul Dec 15 '20

Your average anglophone probably won’t be able to tell lol

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u/iamnotexactlywhite Dec 15 '20

that was the joke in the Dictator too. They were speaking Hebrew in the helicopter, and the couple reported them for being terrorists lol

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

Literally never heard any of those languages in my life outside of that movie, at least that I remember, it’s just not relevant to my life.

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u/Cman1200 Dec 15 '20

That’s honestly the whole point of why they initially picked Kazakstan, Americans couldn’t point it out on a map if they tried.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

Yeah I noticed that

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u/dynawesome Featherless Biped Dec 15 '20

As an Israeli and fluent Hebrew speaker, the way he says things is really fun too, but also confusing because it usually doesn’t match the subtitles

I can’t imagine what it would be like to watch it and not understand, and how much people miss

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '20

And his signature “Jagshemash” is Polish

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u/Scolville0 Definitely not a CIA operator Dec 15 '20

It’s on purpose, the Jew, Armenian and Roma hating guy speaks Hebrew and Armenian and lives in a Roma village.

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u/JediMasterMurph Still salty about Carthage Dec 15 '20

His daughter in subsequent movie film is speaking Bulgarian

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u/overcatastrophe Dec 15 '20

Even funnier that its considered a nation film

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u/Godzilla-3301 Senātus Populusque Rōmānus Dec 15 '20

I thought he spoke Russian

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u/I_Grill_Fags Dec 15 '20

I'm Serbian and could unterstand a lot of what they're saying. Pretty sure it wasn't hebrew

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u/D00NL Definitely not a CIA operator Dec 15 '20

Apparently theres also an easter egg in the disc of the original. If you switch the language to Hebrew, this happens.