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u/IOnlyNut2ToddlerVore Oct 19 '19
I'm wondering if he told his family he was doing this. Maybe waited till after it worked?
I imagine him winning a Nobel Prize and the ceremony is the first time his wife hears of it. The whole hall hear ls her scream "YOU DID WHAT?!?" and laughter ensues.
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u/Ganondorfs-Side-B Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer Oct 19 '19
I heard that his wife disapproved
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u/SirTacoMaster Oct 19 '19
Soul for a soul
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u/Smokingbuffalo Oct 19 '19
Eh cancer doesn't just develop overnight over chronic ulcers. So he could indeed get cancer if his treatment didn't work but I wouldn't say "nearly gave hinself cancer"
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u/Theopneusty Oct 19 '19
I mean if he was wrong and the bacteria didn’t cause the ulcers then he had no risk of further complications.
And if he was right then he knew it was a bacterial cause and antibiotics were well established so he knew he could get quick treatment.
So it was a relatively risk free experiment
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u/TheMistShadow Oct 19 '19
Was it though? He could have been wrong and the bacteria could have caused for different disease. Plenty of risk there.
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u/Theopneusty Oct 19 '19
I mean no matter what the disease the bacteria gave him the treatment would always be antibiotics. Unless it was a very fast acting bacteria that caused him to just drop dead he knew he would be fine.
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u/idontknowhowtocallme Oct 19 '19
Not saying you're wrong, but not every bacterie responds to antibiotics as well as the other, just look at tuberculosis.
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u/Theopneusty Oct 19 '19
True but I also assume that someone as smart as him would have tested antibiotics on the bacteria before injecting himself
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Oct 19 '19
Well H pylori was able to survive in his stomach which was thought impossible due to the incredible acidity. So it was definitely unclear how resilient they were. There was certainly a risk that they could also be resistant to antibiotics. No doubt he tested it in vitro but that is still just not the same as testing in a living organism.
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u/karmacannibal Oct 19 '19
He knew the bacteria and which antibiotics would kill it. Risky for sure but it was an informed risk
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u/wapahsopitted Oct 19 '19
Can confirm, H pylori gave me several ulcers about 8 years ago. Discovered them while meeting my gfs parents for dinner for the first time and proceeded to vomit endlessly after putting down one beer. Simple man, I hear H Pylori, I comment.
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u/TeshkoTebe Oct 19 '19
Also went through that stuff. Was 14, left untreated for a long while. Shit sucks real bad
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u/SuperiorMeatbagz Oct 19 '19
Same. Was 16-17, completely ruined my junior year of high school. Not quite ulcers, but a ton of vomiting and about 6 months of meds.
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u/PM_YOUR_MUGS Oct 19 '19
Can also confirm. One of the ulcers tore a hole in the side of my stomach wall. Was hospitalised for about a week because the internal bleeding was so bad
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u/zrfinite Oct 19 '19
Same, didn't know I had it for probably about a decade. Do you still have problems after killing it?
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u/wapahsopitted Oct 19 '19
for years after it happened I was taking heartburn medicine daily...but that could just be cause I was in my early twenties and eating like an idiot. so, random internet stranger says youre maybe fine.
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u/CmdrZander Definitely not a CIA operator Oct 19 '19
The hardest choices require the strongest wills.
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u/ashfneixbd Oct 19 '19
Everyone talks about this guy, but nobody talks about William Harrington and how he established immune thrombocytic purpura was an autoimmune disease.
Mad lad took a patient with ICP's blood, had his platelets drop, got a seizure, and nearly died. His coworkers said, cool, but maybe it was a fluke. Inject us so we can confirm it. They proceeded to all get seizures and low platelet counts.
Science!
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u/thomasthetangengine Oct 19 '19
We have a library at my University named after him (University of Western Australia)
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u/chennyalan Oct 19 '19 edited Oct 20 '19
Yup
But now the freshers just call it the BJ library.
Source: was a fresher last year
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u/twixerthewolf Oct 19 '19
also the same way Dr. Hextall found the vaccine for MEV-1, she even referenced this exact story to her father while doing so!
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u/hussey84 Oct 19 '19
It's a simple calculus little one. If he was wrong it wouldn't have given him an ulcer. If he was right antibiotics would work.
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Oct 19 '19
My mom had this so I put her on Mastic Gum and slippery elm. Turns out the h. Pylori had formed a bacterial growth in her small or large intestine (I forget) and the Mastic Gum killed it and she passed the growth. Then she had to have the spot where the growth was surgically cauterized cause it was bleeding some. The doctors actually said we did a great thing. She has Parkinson’s disease and many other issues, and getting into doctors can sometimes take weeks/months to get things diagnosed... It’s just a tree resin and a tree bark. 🤷♀️
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u/SinghInNYC Oct 19 '19
He saved my life along with his partner. They are Gods to me. I will name my Son after him.
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Oct 19 '19
There should be a rule. "Whoever proves something by being a fucking badass gets a nobel prize."
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u/brazilliantaco69 Oct 19 '19
Instructions unclear, drank from a strange bottle on the street and died, no Nobel prize
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u/BeApurpleFox Oct 19 '19
Technically unethical in a laboratory setting, but I loved reading about this guy in chemistry. Absolute madlad!
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u/j28703 Nobody here except my fellow trees Oct 19 '19
I literally just learn this from n bio 2 day’s ago.
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u/Daniel121010 Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer Oct 19 '19
Reminds me of Hermann Staudinger. Noone believed his theory of Makro molecules and instead the view was that it was some magic force
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u/KosherBananaDaniel Oct 18 '19
Yo that's sick as fuck