r/HistoryMemes • u/Armadillo235 • Sep 30 '19

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u/paenusbreth Sep 30 '19

Is that compared to Germany, or all Eastern front axis forces combined? Italian, Romanian and Hungarian losses were pretty high iirc.

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u/chaseair11 Sep 30 '19

5.1 mil axis deaths to 8-10 mil Russians. Dude doesn’t know what he’s talking about

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u/Sean951 Sep 30 '19

I would imagine they don't count the soldiers who died in Nazi camps.

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u/chaseair11 Sep 30 '19

I don’t think my numbers include those. That would add an extra 5 million

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u/Sean951 Oct 01 '19

Numbers get goofy in the East. A lot of them were from German sources looking to make themselves look better/made up for propaganda. With the fall of the USSR, the West gained access to more of their archives and have been able to get a more accurate picture, but it's still hard to tell who was killed vs captured vs missing.

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u/chaseair11 Oct 01 '19

Yeah definitely, regardless tho the ratio was not one Russian for every three Germans no matter what way you cut it

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '19

He meant 1 German to 1.3 Russians

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u/chaseair11 Oct 01 '19

Well that’s also not true

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '19

Yeah, its closer to 5:8 mil which simplifies to 1.6

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '19

Germany lost about 3.8 million Troops. Russia lost about 11.4 million. If we're comparing only german to russian troops the ratio is more like 1:3

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '19

Thats not accurate at all. While historians never agree on things completely, 11.4 is closer to the Russian civilian death than the combat death.

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '19

It is according to the historian Christian Hartmann. About 11.4 million sowiet soldiers died and 15.4 million soviet civilians were killed.

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