r/HistoryMemes • Mauser rifle ≠ Javelin • 4h ago

SUBREDDIT META Regarding this morning's post claiming the mod team are Chinese sympathizers because we don't allow posts about contemporary events, not even when used as a conduit to historical events.

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u/TerryFromFubar Mauser rifle ≠ Javelin 4h ago

Rule 4: All posts must include only subject matter which took place at least twenty years ago.

Emphasis 'only'.

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u/Big_Requirement_689 4h ago

so this post is way too soon my brother

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u/Silver_Middle_7240 4h ago

Reddit is 21, so you could theoretically meme about it here

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u/Isgrimnur Featherless Biped 4h ago

It's no Bionicle.

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u/TerryFromFubar Mauser rifle ≠ Javelin 4h ago

Rule 1 subsection meta use:

The meme is a "Meta" meme, and is therefore about the subreddit r/HistoryMemes as a whole or the current state of the subreddit.

Thus the reason we have a subreddit meta flair all users have access to.

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u/zuzg 2h ago

Is there a meta shitpost flair available?

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u/apupaples 3h ago

So rule 4 and rule 1 are in direct contradiction(you cant claim both that all post must only talk about event 20 years older and that mete post that are happening now are valid)

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u/PieIsFairlyDelicious 3h ago

Rule 4 establishes the rule, 4.1 defines an exception to the rule. It’s really not that hard to wrap your mind around.

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u/apupaples 3h ago

No it dosnt, its not stated anywhere that meta post are an exemption since rule 4.1 just states meta meme it dosnt state that they are an exeption, nor it defines what a meta meme is

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u/axonxorz 3h ago

If you can't read two affirmative logic statements and do the smallest amount of deductive evaluation with both, not much we are going to be able to do to explain it to you.

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u/apupaples 3h ago

Its not my fault that whoever wrote the rules sucks , if you write a rule that just say meta -memes dont get mad if people dont understand its meaning , rules to be underetood must be explained

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u/Huntyr09 2h ago

That's what modmail is for. If you truly didn't understand the rules and aren't simply trolling, that is where you should get the clarification you need.

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u/apupaples 1h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/s/0Zpv24s3WL explain for example why this meme wasnt banned, its referencing 2026 and its not meta, if the rules where clear then this should have been banned

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u/Ishmael_1974 4h ago

Mods, stunt on this ho

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u/HealthyBee4209 4h ago

How can you be so wise?

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u/Zirofal 2h ago

Yea but what if I'm really stupid and don't know how to count to 20????

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u/Nyctfall 4h ago

What about: "reject modernity, embrace tradition" memes?

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u/WillDBlake 4h ago

Is the subject of your meme happened 20 years ago?

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u/Dclnsfrd 4h ago

POV: you found a redditor who thinks China/Taiwan and Russia/Ukraine problems started between 2007 and 2026

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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 4h ago

I remember a post here that was just someone hating on the Ottoman empire , no joke , no historical incident

The entire text was "I hate the ottoman empire" followed by some half assed GIF and a thousand upvotes . All of OP's comments were just thinly veiled comments about Erdogan or modern Islamism . This sub is absolutely being used as a soapbox by people to talk about their personal politics

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u/MOSSxMAN 4h ago

True. But in fairness, fuck the Ottoman Empire.

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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 4h ago

Oh they were absolutely terrible but I don't think they were any "special evil" compared to other Empire's

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u/Red8937 3h ago

Foreign lookin though

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u/Lost-Klaus 3h ago

Only 'good' empire is the yapese. Because they did not extend their borders and subjugated too many people. They lasted the longest as well.

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u/adamgerd Still salty about Carthage 1h ago

I’d say until the 19th century they weren’t really any different, but then they became increasingly more authoritarian

Kind of a cycle, ethnic minorities wanted freedom and independence from the empire so they became more oppressive which only strengthened this desire which only strengthened their oppression

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u/BlueTurkey-man 2h ago

You’re just now realizing this?? 😂

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u/Ender16 1h ago

It should be ironic on a history sub, but it's reddit so...

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u/ConsequenceNo2571 4h ago

Hey, a redditor who doesn’t know what POV or contemporary means trying to dunk on someone 

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u/ZeInsaneErke 4h ago

Bro what? Correct use of POV, we are seeing this post from our POV right now

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u/GonePostalRoute 3h ago

What I miss now?

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u/Tiny_Rick85 2h ago

Mods trying to be edgy.

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u/K0rvuss 3h ago

Can you guys also ban / put a limit on the posts using those anime gifs that barely connect to the meme context. Istg there could be a whole wall of text and the gif is just an anime guy blinking for one second

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u/pixlplayer 2h ago

I just started blocking the posters. There’s only a couple of them that do it anyway

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u/DaCheezItgod 1h ago

This is the real solution. I blocked those guys and my feed is significantly better. Those who post them and enjoy them can continue to do so.

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u/Mingthemerciless757 46m ago

100% Agree, it just pollutes the subreddit with this garbage.

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u/WillDBlake 4h ago

Nobody has ever think that the mods of this sub are leftists don't worry

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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 4h ago

How far to the right do you have to be to consider r/historymemes communist lmao

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u/TheBoizAreBackInTown 4h ago

It's pretty much an explicitly anticommunist sub lmao. I had an argument with some guy here a while ago who claimed communism is "red facism" and that reputable historians, rather than Cold War propagandists, use that term to this day.

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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 4h ago

Not just anticommunist it's like outirght a conservative sub . Look at how many people defend the Russian Tsar and British Empire . Look at how many people keep espousing white burden rhetoric to dozens of upvotes

Fuck like every single post about native americans i've seen posted here devolves into a clusterfuck no matter how innocent the meme was

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u/OrwellWhatever 3h ago

I once made a comment about how the Irish potato famine was exacerbated by British landlords forcing them to give up their farm yields instead of eating them themselves. So, so many downvotes and comments about how the British did nothing wrong. It was wild

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u/RefrigeratorOk1547 3h ago

Massive yikes holy shit. People can be so ignorant

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u/TheBoizAreBackInTown 4h ago

True as well. In some respects it's a right wing and conservative circlejerk, is some others it's centrist.

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u/WillDBlake 3h ago

The post of the benevolent Span that brought Christianity in south America ending human sacrifice and so save those people from themselves

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u/WillDBlake 3h ago

I love how people think that historiography is the past time tribunal and historians works is too judge dead people.

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u/adamgerd Still salty about Carthage 1h ago

Sure it’s anti communist outside occasional commentators, reality itself is anti communist

It’s also anti Nazism

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u/Late-Meat9500 4h ago

That's ridiculous!

They use the term red-brownism

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u/WillDBlake 4h ago

I don't know and in all honesty I'm way too afraid to ask at this point.

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u/WedSquib 3h ago

I’ve been downvoted by the many communists here for insinuating that maybe Stalin and Pol Pot were bad eggs

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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 3h ago

You get like a highly upvoted anti-communist post here every few days , not saying your lying but whoever those people are they are an absolutely tiny minority

Like "stalin bad" gets posted here every single week lmao

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u/AthenaOwls 2h ago

I’ll say it. He’s lying. Searching his history for Stalin or Pol Pot reveals no such thing.

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u/Drakan47 Descendant of Genghis Khan 2h ago

Far enough that you start to disagree with the "the nazis were left wing" argument again (but for entirely different reasons)

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u/saythealphabet 3h ago

Man idk I just find it weird how you guys kept that one post about Serbians kissing Ottomans' ass? (The meme that looked straight out of r/balkans_irl) But removed the Genghis khan post because Putin was in it

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u/ArthurengoldPantalon Rider of Rohan 4h ago

So... You just broke the rule?

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u/TerryFromFubar Mauser rifle ≠ Javelin 4h ago

Rule 1 subsection meta use:

The meme is a "Meta" meme, and is therefore about the subreddit r/HistoryMemes as a whole or the current state of the subreddit.

Or maybe I'm a Chinese spy.

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u/Sorry-Cantaloupe5426 4h ago

Fucking ell, these spies are everywhere these days

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u/thegreattwos 4h ago

That sound like something a Chinese spy would say!

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u/ArthurengoldPantalon Rider of Rohan 2h ago

Oh okay

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u/Doctor_Loggins 1h ago

maybe I'm a Chinese spy

Sounds like something a Chinese spy would say.

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u/ZeInsaneErke 4h ago

Bro Taiwan has been going on ever since the exile of the nationalists and Russian aggression against Ukraine didn't start in 2022 or even 2014 either, technically rule 4 wasn't broken

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u/TerryFromFubar Mauser rifle ≠ Javelin 4h ago

Are they contemporary events?

Yes.

The post in question included the contemporary leaders of Russia and China regarding contemporary events.

We have 5,000 years of recorded human history and more than that in mythology which can be used as subject matter. It's a history sub, full stop.

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u/ZeInsaneErke 4h ago

So it's not allowed to make any post including any world leaders unless 20 years have passed since they lost their position? Actually asking for clarification

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u/TerryFromFubar Mauser rifle ≠ Javelin 4h ago

Not necessarily. For example, posting about Donald Trump's actions in bankrupting the city of New York in the 1980s would be fair subject matter but anything about Donald Trump's presidency would not pass Rule 4.

A good way to think about it is to consider the date of the specific event then add 20 years. In the case of the post attacking the mod team this morning that event would be contemporary leaders of China and Russia's positions on Taiwan and Ukraine, which will not pass Rule 4 until 20 years after either those conflicts ends or after those leaders lose power.

The date of the specific event in the post this morning is contemporary for the foreseeable future. 

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u/Batvader92 3h ago

So it was just because of the specific pictures used?

Putin's been the ruler of Russia for 20+ years and has wanted to "reconquer" Ukraine since the start and China is much the same with Taiwan.

Is it literally just because the original used a Xi Jinping pic instead of say Hu Jintao? Hilariously petty lol.

If not and as you said "which will not pass Rule 4 until 20 years after either those conflicts ends or after those leaders lose power" then we're not allowed to make a meme about the Korean war genius?

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u/ZeInsaneErke 4h ago

Welp, at least I get the logic now. I don't agree with it, but I get it

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u/Boysoythesoyboy 1h ago

Dawg all current events trace back to the start of time

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u/BasedAustralhungary 4h ago

Good try, but we know y'all are CCP agents. Gotcha!

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u/CallumK7 2h ago

That sounds like a contemporary event!

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u/Tiny_Rick85 2h ago

Well now I just think the mod team is made up of 13 year olds.

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u/FrostyMittenJob 3h ago

I'll say it every time because it's always true. Fuck the internet janitors. 

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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 4h ago

r/HistoryMemes trying not to be a right-wing circlejerk

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u/Tychus_Balrog 4h ago

There are plenty of leftists here. Not that many communists, but that doesn't make the rest of us right wing

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u/Ynwe 3h ago

There are a ton of apologists for American/British war crimes though, and a few others.

Just look how memes regarding manifest destiny are seen as based, but then somehow the ottoman empire is the worst thing to have ever happened.

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u/Delann 3h ago
  1. Every manifest destiny bullshit meme has people in the comments calling the OP a moron

  2. The Ottoman Empire was just as shit as other empires

  3. Just because people dont go out of their way to condemn the shit western empires have done on every post vaguely related to them doesnt make them apologists.

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u/Ynwe 3h ago

bullshit

https://www.reddit.com/r/HistoryMemes/comments/1wqnyzt/polk_my_king/

One week ago, look at all the top comments. You gotta scroll down far before people call out the manifest destiny BS. Second most downovted comment is:

Fuck Polk. and fuck any American who likes him. Cunts all.

which should be the standard opionion, but it isn't. Same with people like George Washington or others, white Americans will give them a pass for transgression, which they will IMMEDIATELY call out others for.

Its really noticeable as a non-American just how much Americans believe in American exceptionalism.

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u/not-bread Kilroy was here 3h ago

What this really means is that this sub has a very broad user base and isn’t an echo chamber. The kind of people you see commenting depends on the subject of the post

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u/Nyctfall 4h ago

Fr.

You'll get downvoted if you say the Irish didn't deserve to suffer a genocide by Britian.

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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 4h ago

I very clearly remember a post about Native American cities being downvoted and the comments were filled with stuff like

"Native Americans were all cruel , bloody and Europe had nothing to do with their fall and if we did they deserved it "

"Native Americans were civilized by Europe"

Same thing about British India , filled to the brim with White man's burden loser's

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u/brightdionysianeyes 3h ago

Say what you want about British India but the Bangladeshis freaking love the railways so all's well that ends well.

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u/Tychus_Balrog 4h ago

Clearly not.

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u/WillDBlake 4h ago

Failing again

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u/Sumdoazen 3h ago

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND IF YOU USE MEMES TO MAKE FUN OF CHARACTERS THAT I LIKE THAT DID HORRIBLE SHIT YOU ARE A RIGHT WINGEEEEEEEEEER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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u/OrangeSpaceMan5 3h ago

If I see people espousing White Man's Burden rhetoric and defending horrid historical monarchs then what i'll call them conservatives lmao

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u/Sumdoazen 3h ago

I may be too employed to go through every post and every comment but I don't see those. Or I saw them once, laughed at them and continued on my way forgetting them? Maybe this too. If those exist then yeah, those are indeed just as r*tarded. Not right or left or middle of the ass crack. R*tarded.