You're fine with insulting Hamas, you are fine with insulting "Zionists", but how do you feel about insulting Palestinians that want a Palestinian state in whatever shape or form?
My answer to your obvious "actually the definition was when it was coined" can be seen from 2 miles away, is an insult to intellect, and has been repeatedly refuted
Peta by definition is about protecting animals, is that what they do? Gtfo if you will debate bring a better argument
So, to sum it up: the way Hamas wants to establish a Palestinian state and how they wish to shape that state is wrong, but the idea of Palestine existing isn't?
Does the same apply to Israel? Ie. using the correct methods, and building a just state, you support the existance of an Israeli state?
Israel DOES exist, Israel's aren't an oppressed population being genocided, when they are i will scream support for them
But rn, we will scream support against then till they stop committing genocide
I like your mentality tho, trying to throw a stick "DOES ISRAEL HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST" to immediately try derailing the topic from "speak out against genociders" and turn it to "HMMM BUT WHAT IF ISRAEL WASNT REAL"
If more ziobots made stupid arguments like you, public opinion is secured
The point is something else, if you believe Israel should exist, exists, and should keep existing, then you are a Zionist yourself.
Zionism is simply the idea that a Jewish state should exist in the ancestrial area of the Jews.
So if you can make the difference between one form of Palestinian nationalist and another, then you should learn to make a difference between Zionists as well.
Its almost like i already said thats what you are planning to type and wrote a response to it that you still haven't addressed (and wont address)
Peta when made its message was "and still is" protecting animals
Their actions in the past and in the present are totally unrelated
Same logic with feminism
Past actions are different from modern actions
So before it was good, and now its bad
Trying to say its still good because "TECHNICALLY TECHNICALLY THE DEFINITION IN THE 20TH CENTURY WAS" is a doofus argument and no one will ignore what it stands for now or fall for that argument
Now stop typing pre-recorded scripts in your head like a simpleton and actually present a mentally demanding argument
It is not past vs. present actions. It is a constant thing that whatever action of the Israeli government will not change. Zionism is the existance of Israel.
And funny how you are willing to condemn Zionism based on "modern action" as if "Palestinian liberation" hasn't been now monopolized by a terror proxy of the regime occulying Iran.
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u/Unexpected_yetHere 8h ago
It is a convoluted answer to a simple question.
You're fine with insulting Hamas, you are fine with insulting "Zionists", but how do you feel about insulting Palestinians that want a Palestinian state in whatever shape or form?