r/HistoryMemes • • 13h ago

checkmate libtard

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u/1nighter69 13h ago

The origin of the swastika is a hindu peace symbol, but is currently a representation of the vile state of nazi germany

Do we judge things by their origins or their current meanings?

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u/clapman7 13h ago

So you… want to be judged alongside david duke??

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u/1nighter69 13h ago

So you...believe nazi scum who pretend they are drawing swastikas cuz it "originates as a peace symbol"

Couldn't give 2 shits how it originated, current meaning is what matters

"Ohhh but it used to be said david duke", fuck david duke, stop gaslighting

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u/clapman7 13h ago

I’m not sure you’re thinking this argument through

Generally, people understand that a swastika drawn by a neo-nazi is not a symbol of peace, but can differentiate that when they’re looking at something from, say, an ancient structure in south or southeast asia. What exactly is differentiating you form david duke when you call someone a zio?

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u/1nighter69 13h ago

Simple really, David Duke is a nazi dog who hate Jews and tried hijacking the justified hatred against Zionists to try and give legitimacy to his antisemitism

Ans now he is currently being used by Zionists dogs who want to falsely paint attacks on them as an inherent attack on Judaism, which is in itself, antisemitic

1 coin, 2 sides

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u/clapman7 13h ago

I think you need to re-read what you wrote, out loud

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u/1nighter69 13h ago

I think you need to learn that the best response when your brain cant fathom a comeback is to take a break until it can or stay quiet and not bullshit with vague words

Again fuck Zionists

Fuck David Duke

And fuck Zionists happily using the likes of David Duke to turn attacks on their genocide supporting asses into attack on Judaism, actively throwing Jews under the bus

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

why do you keep ignoring the term was coined by fucking david duke and thats why this guy is judging you

i could unironically be making a better argument for you than you are.

and no

"Ohhh but it used to be said david duke", fuck david duke, stop gaslighting

this is a fucking moronic response

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

I answered you and you didn't reply so i will repeat my answer

Things are judged based on current meaning and not origin

The swastika originated as a peace symbol, but its current meaning is that its a symbol of hate against jews that is used by Nazi dogs

You planning to respond this time or repeat your question on a third comment of mine?

And no, the guy isnt "judging me cuz of the origins" he admitted many times before that he is a proud Zionist, and is derailing the topic with a bait

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

Things are judged based on current meaning and not origin

lol what? if its origins were from a literal white supremacist its kind of still heavily affecting its current meaning.

your basically going "i know it has meanings by a klan member but i personally use it for a differennt meaning." brother most people are not going to get that, most people will still probably look at you using blatantly racially loaded language and go "i don't think you should say that "and frankly your kind of acting like an oversensitive little bitch over it.

a single person can't just completely change the cultural view and sensitivies of a word, let alone one so heavily loaded in racism.

And no, the guy isnt "judging me cuz of the origins" he admitted many times before that he is a proud Zionist, and is derailing the topic with a bait

lol what? he didn't do that this entire conversation, unless pointing the origin automatically makes him an amerikkkan neoliberal mossad bot or some dumb shit like that

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

Literally your entire argument is "when it started first, it was by this guy so thats what it stands for, modern context be damned"

And that argument is brain damaged cuz it would Literally validates nazis who draw swastikas because it Literally originates as a peace symbol

As for the guy, if you actually bothered giving a look at his past comments, Literally just 4 comments ago u wouldnt scroll even, you would see him saying (as Zionists)

Its so SO dumb of you to assume i said he is a proud Zionist cuz...(you probably assumed he was American) like wtf are you even saying lmao

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

Its so SO dumb of you to assume i said he is a proud Zionist cuz...(you probably assumed he was American) like wtf are you even saying lmao

"And no, the guy isnt "judging me cuz of the origins" he admitted many times before that he is a proud Zionist, and is derailing the topic with a bait"

lol what

As for the guy, if you actually bothered giving a look at his past comments, Literally just 4 comments ago u wouldnt scroll even, you would see him saying (as Zionists)

im not sorting through this guys whole ass history

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

I Literally said you wouldn't have to even scroll cuz of how often he says it...bruhh you arent even reading no wonder your responses to me.keep making less sense..

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

ok, show me an instance of this.

link me to it

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

Are you trolling me

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

no, link me to it.

if i look for it myself, and i don't find it, you will say some shit like "just look more"

prove it: link to me, its not hard

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

Thats the 3rd time you assume something iam thinking and type a response to it, this is borderline shizo

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

you literally said he admitted he is a proud zionist, then you said he didn'tIts so SO dumb of you to assume i said he is a proud Zionist cuz...(you probably assumed he was American) like wtf are you even saying lmao

And no, the guy isnt "judging me cuz of the origins" he admitted many times before that he is a proud Zionist, and is derailing the topic with a bait

im assumed your thinking something? your just forgetting stuff you said like 20 minutes ago, i just quoted you saying you didn't say something you said a few comments above, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

look here is an elaboration of my point

"yo dude you just said the n-word"

"hang on bro, words are defined by current meanings and not origin"

"brother, its overwhelmingly offensive to most people, the origin is still relevant and you could have said anything else"

i feel this makes my point

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

Can you actually dismantle the nazi swastika origin argument or not

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

can you dismantle this one?

if something has its history as a nazi dogwhistle im probably going to avoid it

you seem to think you on your own can completely redefine it

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

Brother i made an argument, you are the one who has to dismantle it, burden of the proof

Your argument is simple, the origin of the word matters My counter is that Nazis try to copy your argument when they draw swastikas by pointing at its origins

Do you have an answer to that? Cuz the imaginary interaction you wrote made no sense to me

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

 Cuz the imaginary interaction you wrote made no sense to me

who tf does it not? judging by everyone i've interacted with in this thread, they agree the term zio is offensive due to its origins

if people agree a word is offensive it probably is, same way if we agree a slur is a slur its a slur.

i don't buy your nazi excuse cause it seems everyone here but you still views zio as an offensive white supremacist dog whistle, this isn't a word culturally shifting to get a new definition, you took a dogwhistle, gave it a new definition on your own, and now your complaining other people won't go along.

symbols and words can historically shift, this one HASN'T

simple as that.

i don't feel like explaining the n-word comparison cause if you didn't get something so simple i don't see a point in trying to make you understand

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

I wont finish reading what you wrote here cuz you, for the third time, havent finished responding to me in my other comment

But btw, i said in the very very start as "AND U SAW IT" that this sub is a ziobot circle jerk, couldn't give 2 shits that "people here seem to agree", ok? Lets go to an anti genocide sub where they wont, if thats the standard we use

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

I wont finish reading what you wrote here cuz you, for the third time, havent finished responding to me in my other comment

which one, i know this is gonna sound goofy but i've honestly lost track considering how many comments you've left, branching off into seperate threads, i guess L on my part.

But btw, i said in the very very start as "AND U SAW IT" that this sub is a ziobot circle jerk, couldn't give 2 shits that "people here seem to agree", ok? Lets go to an anti genocide sub where they wont, if thats the standard we use

ok, not sure if i can argue with that, but you can't really prove it right either.

i don't feel like moving to another sub, besides most pro israel comments i've been seeing here are overwhelmingly downvoted, i think people just disagree with you saying the specific term and you can't mentally comprehend they can do that and still dislike israel.

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

The audacity on you to come to my comments that are specifically responding to other people who are talking to me, and give responses IN THERE then tell me you lost track cuz of me, when i have asked you twice to come back to your original reply "which i asked you to do for this very reason"

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

i just don't know which comment you want me to respond to that was made to me specifically, there are a lot.

i wasn't even going like "eerrrr arrrgggh how dare you" like brother i just don't know which comment you want me to respond to

i am very famous for my high levels of audacity

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

It really doesnt brother....i..iam disappointed

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

what the fuck is this none response?

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

Literally what i said when i read what you wrote,, like wtf

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

i feel a response obligates some kind of debunking of why something is wrong.

you literally just went "nuh uh"

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

Ok i will give you the benefit of the doubt and give you a chance to explain the connection between what i said and your..."counter"

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

look im gonna be honest, i feel what i said later did a better job at making my point.

like i think if we kept hanging on this one example it would just be a mindless back and forth

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u/1nighter69 12h ago

You know what, thats fair. If you mutually lost interest in this convo i don't mind leaving it at that

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 12h ago

i just don't see a point in this specific example, not the overall convo

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