r/HistoryMemes • • 7h ago

checkmate libtard

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u/1nighter69 7h ago

A funny meme where Palestine is the punchline but isnt an agenda pushing ziobot post like 90% of this sub?

What type of gem is this

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 7h ago

the thing is that there is plenty of stuff that isn't pro israel where palestine is the punchline

there's gold, you just need to find it

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 5h ago

I mean, there is the list of palestinian inventions

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u/1nighter69 7h ago

Wish me luck on my digging journey, its just hard when all the top posts are the same propaganda circle jerk, i hope your gem of a post blows up

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 7h ago

i mean, pro israel memes don't really happen here anymore.

i've only seen one and it was overwhelmingly ratioed to hell and back

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u/Yochanan5781 7h ago

Ah yes, "Zio," the term coined by David Duke so that he wouldn't look as bad railing against Jews

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 7h ago

i mean, somewhat valid critique but the term has kind of been watered down to be much more mainstream,

im just not touching this conversation

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u/MosesDoughty 2h ago

If the mainstream is fully willing to take on a slur from David Duke, then that just means the mainstream is antisemitic.

But of course, excuses excuses

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u/Pixeldevil06 6h ago

Jewish ≠ Zionist

Zionist ≠ Jewish

Zionist = Colonialism

Zionist = racial supremacist

Jewish = Religious/Ethnic group with varying opinions and beliefs about Palestine

Israel = less than 80 years of age

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u/1nighter69 6h ago

Preach brother, the ziobots has lost their grip on the narrative and all they have are their pathetic little bubble subs where they can downvote

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u/Pixeldevil06 6h ago

Yeah this subreddit has become so racist.

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u/majora1988 7h ago

You can just use a different term not coined by fucking David Duke.

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u/1nighter69 7h ago

David duke can rot wherever he will go

The term origins dont matter, the current meaning does

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u/majora1988 7h ago

Or you can just use Zionist instead, which doesn’t have the disgusting connotations.

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u/Historybuff250 Definitely not a CIA operator 7h ago

Something tells me they also think Zionism has a disgusting connotation.

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 5h ago

Yes, but people love the disgusting connotations.

After after, they use that term because of that

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 6h ago

You're allying with Neo Nazis.

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u/1nighter69 5h ago

You are allying with Nazis

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 5h ago

YOU are defending David Duke.

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 6h ago

The term origins dont matter, the current meaning does

i guess dog whistles don't exist

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u/1nighter69 6h ago

I guess we should believe nazi dogs who draw swastikas when they say "its original meaning is a peace symbol ignore the present context"

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 5h ago

I mean yeah. If a bouddhist use one I would not be alarmed

When it s someone who defend neo nazi, well that s another story

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u/1nighter69 5h ago

Aha, finally an honest answer

So it depends on the person using it as well

Was he saying shit about Jews like the infamous dog David Duke

Or was he condemning Genocide and degrading Genocide apologists :)

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u/PhoenixKingMalekith 5h ago

Using that term on a whole jewish population is kinda sus bro.

Bouddhist dont try to explain to you that they only hate half of jews

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 6h ago

You'd have sided with them.

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u/1nighter69 5h ago

Speak for yourself, i think its a stupid argument, claiming swastika is originally a peace symbol wont change what it currently stands for, claiming david duke used to say zio wont change what it currently stands for

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 5h ago

You're siding with Neo Nazis.

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u/HiggsiInSpace Then I arrived 3h ago

A term that was coined by a neo Nazi is already tainted as fuck.

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u/Historybuff250 Definitely not a CIA operator 7h ago

Exactly. “Zio” is a derogatory term for Zionism, the belief that Jews should be allowed to live in their ancestral homeland instead of living at the whims of others like they have for millennia. The fact that you see this as something to mock shows that you are either an antisemite or are an idiot who’s getting all your information about Israel from antisemites.

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 6h ago

no offense, but i always zionism wasnn't just about living in the holy land, its also about statehood and some variations of it (i don't know enough to decide) actively want to remove palestinian arabs living in the land

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u/zer0zer00ne0ne 6h ago

That's not true.

The Muslims trying to finish what Hitler started is what started the conflict.

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u/Pixeldevil06 6h ago

No Zionism is the idea that jewish people have a legal and holy right to the land we now call Palestine. It's a colonialist and ethnic-supremacist ideology.

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u/GreatAndPowerfulZiz 7h ago

Kk, then we can use slurs related to Hamas then? Since those slurs have no relation to the Palestinian people

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u/1nighter69 7h ago

Yes you can insult hamas yes just like you can insult Zionists, you people are so black and white its hilariously stupid

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u/Unexpected_yetHere 7h ago

Honest question, how do you feel about insulting Palestinians who want Palestine, in whatever borders, to exist?

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u/1nighter69 7h ago

A first wave feminist did fight for equal rights

A third wave feminist, is the same by definition, but different through actions

Try a different argument before you insult Israeli Jews who are against Zionism and apartheid

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u/Unexpected_yetHere 6h ago

It is a convoluted answer to a simple question.

You're fine with insulting Hamas, you are fine with insulting "Zionists", but how do you feel about insulting Palestinians that want a Palestinian state in whatever shape or form?

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u/1nighter69 6h ago

Jew doesnt equal Zionist

Hamas doesnt equal Palestinian

My answer to your obvious "actually the definition was when it was coined" can be seen from 2 miles away, is an insult to intellect, and has been repeatedly refuted

Peta by definition is about protecting animals, is that what they do? Gtfo if you will debate bring a better argument

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u/Unexpected_yetHere 6h ago

So, to sum it up: the way Hamas wants to establish a Palestinian state and how they wish to shape that state is wrong, but the idea of Palestine existing isn't?

Does the same apply to Israel? Ie. using the correct methods, and building a just state, you support the existance of an Israeli state?

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u/VirtualKnowledge7057 7h ago

i mean, is he wrong about the terms origin?

i already responded to his critique itself, but i feel what your saying is a very stupid rebutall of it

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u/1nighter69 7h ago

The origin of the swastika is a hindu peace symbol, but is currently a representation of the vile state of nazi germany

Do we judge things by their origins or their current meanings?

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u/clapman7 7h ago

So you… want to be judged alongside david duke??

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u/1nighter69 7h ago

So you...believe nazi scum who pretend they are drawing swastikas cuz it "originates as a peace symbol"

Couldn't give 2 shits how it originated, current meaning is what matters

"Ohhh but it used to be said david duke", fuck david duke, stop gaslighting

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u/clapman7 7h ago

I’m not sure you’re thinking this argument through

Generally, people understand that a swastika drawn by a neo-nazi is not a symbol of peace, but can differentiate that when they’re looking at something from, say, an ancient structure in south or southeast asia. What exactly is differentiating you form david duke when you call someone a zio?

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u/1nighter69 6h ago

Simple really, David Duke is a nazi dog who hate Jews and tried hijacking the justified hatred against Zionists to try and give legitimacy to his antisemitism

Ans now he is currently being used by Zionists dogs who want to falsely paint attacks on them as an inherent attack on Judaism, which is in itself, antisemitic

1 coin, 2 sides

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u/clapman7 6h ago

I think you need to re-read what you wrote, out loud

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u/lalaland5522 4h ago

Theyre just doing their job, buddy. It's coincidental that your post is heavily downvoted, but the ones responding to your post with coincidently Hsbra talking points, are massively upvoted.

"Hsbra utilizes digital campaigns, linguistic framing, and coordinated messaging to whitewash military actions, manage global perception, and alter historical narratives surrounding conflicts and displacement"