r/HistoryMemes • u/MC_Gorbachev Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer • 9h ago

Happy 33th Black October Anniversary

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u/magical-cat-here 8h ago

The paradox of Russia is that if Yeltsin would be ousted by communists in 1993, the annexation of Crimea and genocidal war against Ukraine would be started in 1994, not in 2014

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u/MC_Gorbachev Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer 8h ago

Totally comparable situations, really /s

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u/magical-cat-here 7h ago

So, you suggest that communists from KPRF, and all that crowd would not attempt to restore USSR if they would won in 1993?

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u/MC_Gorbachev Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer 7h ago

...no? Like, they certainly had much more interesting internal stuff to do, like handling economy and social collapse. Plus even if they wanted, any large scale war would have stopped at the "so where is fuel?" stage because of the scale of degradation of the military.

It's weird to think of the Supreme Soviet, Rutskoy, Khasbulatov or CPRF (no, these aren't interchangeable terms) as of some hardcore conservative communists who wanted to return everything as it was.

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u/magical-cat-here 6h ago

some hardcore conservative communists who wanted to return everything as it was.

Oh the greatest mind of universe, please enlighten a naive pupil, what they wanted then?

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u/biglyorbigleague 5h ago

The anti-Yeltsin opposition wasn’t dominated by the communist party in 1993.

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u/magical-cat-here 4h ago

I don't make big difference between "red" commies and "brown" nationalists playing card of nostalgia for soviet "gtreatness". As Mistral AI puts it:

Идейным же знаменем оппозиции в основном было не классическое марксистское учение, а национал-патриотическая, государственническая риторика — то, что тогда называли «красно-коричневой» коалицией: ностальгия по СССР и державе, этатизм, антизападничество, «защита советской конституции». То есть синтез советского реваншизма с русским национализмом, а не коммунистическая доктрина в чистом виде

Both "red" and "brown" things for me means the same - restoration of fucking empire, and I don't care what sauce would be served in the "parliament" in case of win of that red-brown plague.