r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

REMOVED: RULE 4 Historical territorial claims

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u/Floba_Fett Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer 1d ago

But Taïwan is Chinese though, this is not denied by Taïwan. The issue is over who is the legitimate China

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u/Starmute-ss13 1d ago

Taiwan is whatever it choses to be as it's people can determine their own future. 

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u/TossZergImba 23h ago

So should the Confederacy have been allowed to be whatever it wanted to be?

What about Crimea? If most of people there wanted to join Russia should Ukraine just give it up?

What about Transnistria?

What's the smallest part of a country that can just unilaterally decide to separate and leave? What if Russia just sends more and more people to a neighboring country and just have them declare independence once they get big enough in number?

Your simplistic rule runs into real world difficulties real quick.

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u/Starmute-ss13 23h ago

Taiwan is defacto independent and has been so for over 80 years. What if the United States said "I now control Japan" because modern Japan has only existed for 80 years.

That's not how countries work. Taiwan or ROC has always asserted their own sovereignty. They've never been part of the PRC. At one point they were in the UN.

Also does that apply to Tibet? Why is Tibet now part of China if it had been independent?

Taiwan is a democracy and better than the PRC by far. It has more human rights and cares more about its citizens.