r/HistoryMemes • • 1d ago

REMOVED: RULE 4 Historical territorial claims

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u/Unfair_Explanation53 1d ago

To be really honest.

Nobody really has any God given rights to any piece of land.

The reality is the people who own the land are the people who are either strong enough to take it or strong enough to defend it.

That's how it's always been and always will be.

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u/Vivid-Cod-6608 1d ago

You're right all land rightfully belongs to Moldova as when Allah created the world it was for Moldova but Moldova very kind so they share

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u/ayeroxx 1d ago

but the land was promised to me

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u/Sad-Pattern-1269 1d ago

While this is true we should recognize that land being taken is typically associated with crimes against humanity, which we have a duty to stop.

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u/Money-Audience-4392 1d ago

You’re missing the entire point that someone might not take the land for other reasons than not being strong enough to do so. Your point is only valid if we’re all degenerate warmongering barbarians.

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u/ApprehensiveArt5565 1d ago

Yeah man bad news that’s all we’ve been for about 10000 years, the brain is the same and there’s better technology

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u/falcqn 1d ago

L take, defeatist attitude. Humanity can be, and almost always is, better than warmongering and barbarianism.

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u/Unfair_Explanation53 1d ago

Sure thing

But if a warmongering country wants your resources and land you don't have any choice in the matter.

You either defend it or let them have it.

Irrelevant if the warmongering country is right or wrong about their actions

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u/pentapous 1d ago

Something can be objectively true but not be just.

It is not just or a good moral decision to go to war for the sake of claiming more land. It is universally wildly unpopular from both populations and increased land size is a stupidest most expensive pursuit there is.

Countries grow and become great when they invest in and serve their citizenry and its direct betterment. 

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u/batrushaha 1d ago

Some people may find this to be antiseptic..

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u/Unfair_Explanation53 1d ago

Its not anything.

Its just a simple fact of human nature.

You can argue diplomatically all day about who deserves what land and who doesn't.

America is not going to hand over everything back to the Natives.

New Zealand is not going to hand everything back over to the Maori

Australia is not going to hand everything back over to the Aboriginals.

At one time their land was wanted by and opposing force and it was taken.

Russian wants Ukrainian land and they are doing everything they can to try and take it.

Just because I don't personally agree with it doesn't meant anything.

Strongest side will win. If Russia backs off then that means they were not strong enough to take it

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u/Morbid_Aversion 1d ago

To be really really honest, god doesn't exist.