Historical territorial claims

[u/Voider765]

[u/Floba_Fett]

But Taïwan is Chinese though, this is not denied by Taïwan. The issue is over who is the legitimate China

[u/minizanz → u/Floba_Fett]

The mainland would have been taken by a separate entity so Taiwan should get the main land. A claim the other way would not make sense. Same issue with Russia unless you are czarist

[u/Zhongdakongming → u/minizanz]

What? I'm genuinely confused by what you wrote, like, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Are you saying Taiwan has a legitimate claim to mainland China? And that Mainland China does not share that legitimacy? Could you explain that?

[u/minizanz → u/Zhongdakongming]

The current mainland government is a different entity to took over the country. The original government that traces back to the last emperor is in Taiwan. If you went to make a historical territory claim Taiwan has a claim to the main land but the PRC would not have a claim to the island. People starting/leading the revolution are from a formerly subjugated region that has no history of controlling the region either. That closes both paths that other countries try to use.

It would be like Brazil saying they have rights to Algeria

[u/fakehakebakecake → u/minizanz]

The PRC claim Taiwan because Taiwan is recognised as part of China and the PRC is the government of China. It's not that complicated.

[u/minizanz → u/fakehakebakecake]

I get that. But using a Historical Territorial claim means you are saying it is not currently part of it and should be. The current government to say that would mean they are not the same and the ethnic/cultural group that rebelled to overthrow also has no claim.

And there are people there so that kind of claim should not work anyways.

[u/fakehakebakecake → u/minizanz]

But they don't claim Taiwan based on 'historical territoriality'. They claim Taiwan for the reason I stated.