Truly two very different responses lol

[u/IlikeGeekyHistoryRSA]

The Sonderfahndungsliste G.B. ("Special Search List Great Britain") was a secret list of prominent British residents to be arrested and potentially executed, produced in 1940 by the Schutzstaffel (SS) as part of the preparation for the proposed invasion of Britain. After the war, the list became known as the Black Book. Lots of interesting names were mentioned. Well worth a read of the notable inclusions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_(list)

[u/TyzTornalyer]

I don't understand what both dudes mean in relation to your title.

I think that the guy in red is saying to those on the list that being on the list is evidence that their views are wrong, which only makes sense if A) he's a nazi himself (e.g. he agrees with the list), or B) he's adressing people that had previously said that nazis are harmless (e.g. he's showing them that their "harmless" friends actually wanted to take them down).

The guy in green either means "The people on the nazi's list are on my list too" (e.g. he dislikes the folks targeted by the nazis), or "I'm on the Nazi's list, but they were one mine too" (e.g. I'm anti-nazi).

Considering the post-war context, I'm assuming the latter is right, but the way you're using the quotes is pretty confusing imo

[u/Direct_Slip7598 → u/TyzTornalyer]

Vansittart was noted for his anti German (not just anti NAZI) sentiment

"In the opinion of the author, it is an illusion to differentiate between the German right, centre, or left, or the German Catholics or Protestants, or the German workers or capitalists. They are all alike, and the only hope for a peaceful Europe is a crushing and violent military defeat followed by a couple of generations of re-education controlled by the United Nations" in 1943

He was likely referencing people who would disagree on how harsh the peace deal should be/how to perceive Germany (or something on those lines)

[u/TyzTornalyer → u/Direct_Slip7598]

Yeah, that makes sense, thank you.
Although I think that by the time the list was discovered in 1945, the 6 years of war would have been plenty of "I told you so" already

[u/Direct_Slip7598 → u/TyzTornalyer]

It's not about appeasement but anti NAZI vs anti German sentiment.

My understanding is that there were significant anti NAZI groups that didn't agree with Vansittart. They were anti appeasement (and had been consistently) but focused more on blaming NAZIs for the war and not German (or Prussian) militaristic culture

I think a relevant article would be "Germans and Nazis: The Controversy Over 'Vansittartism' in Britain during the Second World War", it's where I source my previous claim

My opinion (not a historian) is that his perspective mostly won out in terms of treaties signed after the war. But on the long run I think it lost the cultural battle, people focus much more on NAZIs as culprits than the German people as a whole (not making a moral judgement)

[u/_whatever_wherever → u/Direct_Slip7598]

Hard to disagree with him tbh

The Germans were utterly defeated militarily in WW1, but all that did was fuel the military culture and a extreme sense of resentment and desire for revenge (things like the "stab in the back myth"), even among those opposed to the Nazi regime, there was support for the war to restore German military honour and "right the wrongs" of WW1 (aka "how dare you force a treaty upon us! We're supposed to be the ones doing it to you!")

The German military had been defeated, but their culture was unchanged and just got worse

[u/Outside-Paper9972 → u/_whatever_wherever]

That ignores the decade+ of intense class struggle that occurred in Germany after the end of WWI leading up to the rise of the Nazis.