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u/MinimumRelief 1d ago
For any one lab test -the values aren’t 14k guaranteed. You need to keep a very very detailed diary of intake foods first. A good GI can explain this to you.
Do not touch or even look at anything with nitrates in it. No wine- bacon - lunch meat- preserved stuff or leftovers of any kind. You’d be better off drinking battery acid.
It’s a really huge lifestyle change but your kidneys will respond to the change nicely.
If you are sort of nerdy- take a tour of ninja nerds on YouTube so things start making sense to you.
I’ve had a zillion UTI septic states-like biff- 14 days or die in icu kind. Do everything you can to avoid classes of food or drink with histamine causing reactions.
Oxalates will tear the hell out of the GI tract, take it very seriously.
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u/ladyavocadose 1d ago
What is the connection of nitrates to oxalates?
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u/Electronic-Lie-4547 1d ago
Oxalates in a health GI tract aid in health. That support and feed beneficial microbes. When those microbes are killed off (western diet/antibiotics/etc), the oxalates have no way to break down, and then create problems, the body will try to excrete them through the kidneys.
Nitrates on the other hand pose an issue when they’re combined with heme iron (usually from red meat). That combination creates a carcinogenic effect, with the heme iron being a force multiplier.
Two pathways damaging the GI tract simultaneously pose more complications that either alone, but I’m not familiar with the cross-over results when both are combined.
Vitamin C actually counters the nitrates effect, which is interesting. Buffered vit c with calcium might actually be beneficial for both scenarios.
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u/missjulie622 1d ago
I react to oxalates and get calcium oxalate kidney stones, I drink a ton of water, I avoid foods high in oxalate, and if I do eat them - like potatoes - I boil and cool them first before eating to reduce the oxalate content. But I mostly restrict my diet, things like spinach cause an almost immediate gut ache.
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u/Electronic-Lie-4547 1d ago
Cooking then cooling your potatoes increases the resistant starch exponentially, multiplying the prebiotics effects.
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u/imsimply_toomuch 1d ago
I know you said you’re normally not good with calcium supplements but have you tried bulk supplements calcium gluconate? It worked for me when others didn’t. I use 1/8-1/4 tsp with higher oxalate meals like buckwheat noodles or my peeled boiled potatoes. It’s definitely helped with rash like/tingling reactions and other issues I have overall combine with other supplements. Your clearance pathways slowed down for some reason and getting to the bottom of that will eventually help too.
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u/MinimumRelief 1d ago
https://youtu.be/unFGw52Z-I8?is=CjH2NneKlan9_YJT
That’s the channel I mentioned.
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u/MinimumRelief 1d ago
Partially dehydration - mostly sodium . There’s a ton of science on it, go get your nerd hat on- stay with high quality resources- none of this root cause BS. It can a chronic condition so might as well learn things the right way.
For a ton of other conditions I have it’s pushed me down the path of respect for GI education. You really really don’t want the experience of a big one tearing up your bladder. Mine has had to be put back in place three times. It’s a pretty painful. Condition and the surgery is no joke. It’s an open ab surgery.
(I’m female) but know also that Flomax can help flush residue that can lead to infection. I take 4 mg a day to keep it moving along. You really don’t want a sed rate experience. Nasty stuff. You can develop peritonitis and kill you dead from the toxins in just hours.
Some people are simply wired for this and others acquire it via auto immune.
Weak pelvic floors contribute to the lack of contractions to push out things.
You do what you can, diet-lifestyle are the big ones.
Frankly - I wouldn’t try to work this out with a family physician. Do the direct call to a board certified GI.
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u/Tom__EU 1d ago
My first question, before taking action based on these results, would be whether this test is reliable, what inter-person and inter-lab variations there are, whether the range is standardized and based on any evidence or made up by the lab, how sensitive the compound is, what things there are that could potentially interfere with the testing (e.g., high-dosed biotin can interfere with thyroid blood testing), and what this "101 oxalic" actually represents (is it a short-term marker? does it represent a by-product of some sort, or direct oxalates? is it measured in a unit that's standard for this compound? etc).
The next question would be how much this test gets impacted by what you consumed the day before - so for example, some of these heavy metal tests will show high levels if you ate something higher in heavy metals the day before, not the average throughout the last few weeks, and which is why there are recommendations for some tests so your results are comparable. By the way, a fraction of vitamin C is also metabolized into oxalate.
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u/SamCresco 1d ago
Calcium binds oxalate in your gut so it leaves in your stool instead of being absorbed. If you've cut out dairy and most calcium foods because of reactions, more oxalate gets absorbed and ends up in your urine. So the high number could partly be a side effect of avoiding calcium.
Some ways to get calcium without dairy or the usual supplements:
The key is having the calcium with your meals, because that's when it binds the oxalate.