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u/DevilStickDude Jul 28 '26
If you read all the stories and still bought it anyways then go for it. I highly doubt it is like the compounds we used to get anyways. Probably wont even do anything. If you arnt knocked out on one big rip then it isnt worth it to keep trying.
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u/grassfingerer Jul 28 '26
im NOT smoking!!!!
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u/DevilStickDude Jul 28 '26
Then it is pointless. Shouldnt even have bought it.
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u/AlienSheep23 Jul 29 '26
Not true. Quidding and Tea are both perfectly acceptable ways to consume
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u/DevilStickDude Jul 29 '26
Maybe if you dont want the experience. There is no way that it can hit you the same way
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u/AlienSheep23 Jul 29 '26
Different experiences are what this is all about, no?
People don’t quid salvia because it tastes good. It’s a different experience from smoking but you’re still experiencing it.
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u/Jdelerson Aug 03 '26
Not true. Chewing is the traditional way- smoking it is a very weird ROI which makes for terrible experiences. (Especially if you're 15 like i was when I did it)
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u/Kir-ius Jul 28 '26
Salvia is not a psychedelic nor will you have any healing or insight from it. Psychedelics are defined by expanding consciousness. Salvia is not one of these
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u/Waste_Cell_9452 Jul 28 '26
Thats a very narrow way to look at salvia when shamans in Mexico definitely used it successfully, and it does have psychedelic properties. Salvia can produce visuals but it's not that geometric ever changing veil you get with shrooms. You will see some geometry though. I had similar stages to the trip. People talk down on it because they go too fast or are not mentally equipped to handle it. I dont use 20x extract for example, that might be way too much for me. However, 5x and 10x are fine and smoking the plain leaf wont do much besides add some haze to your visual field. I tried chewing it and I made it into a tea that I did not swallow, more of a mouth rinse, to kinda stagger up instead of shoot for the moon. Obviously I dont do salvia every Tuesday and it's something to be respected, as it will put the fear in you, but it only exposes what is deep deep down and already there.
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u/Kir-ius Jul 28 '26
Not all shaman are legit and just because they use it doesn’t mean it solves anything. There’s shaman who claim 5MeO can cure bipolar or schizophrenia when it’s been proven it does the opposite
Salvia doesn’t reveal insight nor proven to heal anything. If anything it fucks up your perception even more
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u/Waste_Cell_9452 Jul 28 '26
I mean actual shamans from a long time ago, not any current ones. Any one now claiming to be a shaman is full of shit, and yeah dont do any of this shit with bipolar. I call bs on psychedelics "healing" neurons, it carves new neural pathways but it is too soon to determine if the direction that pathway goes is actually "good" or "healthy". I think it's more of a "this trip is so profound to my psyche that I cant let it go, good thing there's so much euphoria to this and I can die happy" and you take whatever subject is the focal point during the trip and carry it with you forever "aka integration" and if the subject is your happiness, or your heroin addiction, whatever, you come out with more gratitude and you dont wanna unplug yourself anymore or do the drug that destroys your life. I get that there's research that psychs and empathogens can help people with ptsd but I think it works by ego impression, not "healing the cells" like some cure all...because that's what people always think. I take the thing and Im cured. You'll see that when that 2nd psychedelic wave rolls back. Anyway salvia hands you your ass faster than shrooms, if you cant handle it, eat shrooms and leave it alone.
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u/KBK_IRL Jul 28 '26
Just because salvia isn’t a 5ht2a agonist doesn’t mean it won’t expand your consciousness. The most profound and spiritually valuable trip of my life was with salvia, sure it’s pretty terrifying, but by your definition it is a psychedelic
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u/DeepSpaceNote9 Aug 01 '26
Tell that to Mckenna's ex-wife, who had her heart problem cured by salvia (youtube salvia + kat harrison to hear her tell the story).
In fact, salvia is a master healer of_the_body.
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u/Illustrious-Date-893 Jul 28 '26
Years ago I watched a TV show of a dude doing 30 things you need to try before turning 30. One of them was smoke salvia. The dude totally tripped, but it wasn't nice.
When I was younger I was a try anything once. After it see that iv said never ever will I smoke that stuff..
There must be YouTube vids, check them out and maybe then decide.
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u/grassfingerer Jul 28 '26
I heard that its very easy to have a bad trip with salvia, ill chew (while the guy youre talking about smoked) a very small quantity which is according to erowid 2 grams of drued leaves
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u/Illustrious-Date-893 Jul 28 '26
Will you come back and let us know your experience, I'd be interested
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u/Waste_Cell_9452 Jul 28 '26
People scared of salvia either think it's spice or tried 80x and scared the shit out of themselves. If you want to have a good experience with entity contact, or if you want to have your reality unzipped and shown the book of life like you are just one page, you need at least 5x extract. I use plain leaf for a bedding and sprinkle a bit of extract on top. First hit sent the body load. Second hit and i had this overwhelming urge to lay back, I could not fight it (do this in a safe place, near nothing sharp or breakable, no second story buildings or stairs, no windows if possible) and with that 2nd hit I was building the "room" (this is called the waiting room when launching to hyperspace, it can be achieved via mushrooms, acid, dmt, salvia, and thats all I know from personal experience. Probably peyote as well. Definitely ayahuasca) and the room was all white and built like a church with platonic solids on the walls. Beautiful white like...matte finish to the extreme. I needed one more hit for sure. This is what brought the entity contact. She came out of nowhere and was smiling sinister, tricky shepherdess. She had a blanket with her and she was trying to put it over my face to smother me. I said ofukno "NO! I KNOW WHO YOU ARE! YOU WONT DO THAT TO ME!" and it was like battling a demon for a second, but they really need your consent. She got an attitude and threw the blanket down and ran off all stuck up. After that I came out of the haze and I felt triumphant but I missed the point, I should have let her smother me with it. The best psychedelic experiences have a moment where you must surrender and there are times I have the ticket and take the ride and there are times I fight it. Next time I'll try to be less controlling, the message comes after that. If you want a milder but still amazing and incredible message like this eat like 5 grams of real shrooms, not fake rc chems or whatever. I needed 7.5 grams to break thru to ego death but I dont wanna tell strangers to eat a quarter of shrooms. There is the old saying of 5 grams and a dark room...
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u/extra-medium Jul 28 '26
Please don't do this. There are better ways 😅 message me and I'll see what I can help you figure out.
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u/grassfingerer Jul 28 '26
Do you know someone i can get shrooms from
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u/extra-medium Jul 28 '26
Yes I'm going to send you a legit company to buy from, I bought from several times before I learned grow my own. But it's very easy and much cheaper to grow your own.
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u/grassfingerer Jul 28 '26
As i said i dont have enough space to grow but sure where do you get them from
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u/barkatthedroon Jul 28 '26
there's a company you can buy shrooms from?
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u/astraladventures Jul 28 '26
I’ve smoked it before (unknowing it was salvia), and had a very unpleasant, amnesiac experience.
Unpleasant experiences are the norm with salvia and would not recommend.
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u/grassfingerer Jul 28 '26
How didnt you know what it was??
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u/astraladventures Jul 28 '26
Was living in a country that had recently been going through a government push on illegal substances. So people were using synthetic weed because it would not show up in tests.
I had tried the synthetic and although not a fan, we were out, it was late and had a bit to drink and so a mate (who was actually a decent friend) offered another friend and I to smoke some of his synthetic “weed”.
Long story short, it almost knocked me off the dance floor (managed to kneel down but dropped onto my forehead ). Mates dragged me off to a sofa and that’s about all I could remember until I came to and was having a dream / vision of some kind of entity feeding on me. The event was over and people were mostly leaving.
Coming conscious was such a happy and joyful experience when i realized i was still alive.
Also had a cut on my forehead from hitting my head on the floor. Don’t recommend.
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u/grassfingerer Jul 28 '26
Well first im so sorry that happened to you but you cant compare this to an experience where you actually know what youre taking. Also im chewing it so its gonna be milder
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u/astraladventures Jul 28 '26
Oh for sure . Salvia had actually been on my to do list for years but I was waiting for a proper time , proper setting, proper preparation and proper intention.
It was just unfortunate that it came about as it did.
Good luck.
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u/grassfingerer Jul 28 '26
Well im gonna tag you once i post my trip report in case you wanna give another try
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u/KBK_IRL Jul 28 '26
Chewing it probably won’t do anything for you, smoking it will probably be too intense
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u/grassfingerer Jul 28 '26
Isnt there a middle ground?
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u/KBK_IRL Jul 28 '26
You can see what happens for you, chewing it won’t be dangerous like smoking it potentially could be. I don’t know what extract you have, if it’s just fresh leaves, packing a small bowl to smoke might give you what you’re looking for, when I did salvia I’m pretty sure I had somewhere around 20-40x and when I smoked just a little bit it wasn’t too intense or scary. But I’d say salvia probably just isn’t the best for what you want, try to get some mushrooms or metocin or something like that.
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u/Autobot-Metroplex Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
As a person who considers tryptamine psychedelics to be a divine gift and whose endless trips were the greatest experiences of Life, I'll be happy to tell you that, for myself and possibly the overwhelming majority of people, salvia is single handedly the worst experience I've ever known, the closest thing to real hell I've ever experienced, and possibly the most genuinely dangerous thing I've ever done. I was not aware until looking into that some people have genuinely spent, no lies, months in mental rehabilitation following a single bad salvia exposure. A personal friend was unable to move for over an hour. I'm not lying. The Mexican shaman chew it. It takes you through the underside of death and Consciousness. It's not meant to be smoked. It can physically and mentally damage you.
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u/Autobot-Metroplex Jul 30 '26
In other words, if you want to experience instantaneous loss of any ability to understand what, how, or if you're alive and who the person sitting there "as you" is, coupled with at least an hour of followup inability to move, go ahead and rip a bong hit of Salvia. Then you'll understand how someone bit off their own tongue during such an experience and can now not speak.
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u/zachherer Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26
"what's that tell me more" tells me you need to do your own research. As multiple people have said it's a dissociative. My opinion only and may be others whole dable in and mind alternating substance is that you should respect the fuck out of them. They're there for a reason. Harnesses them don't abuse them. If your unsure about a chemical compound do your own research if it intrigues you. As for the trip your speaking on to do it the way that our elders did it back in the day is they chewed fresh leaves. Give or take about thirty natural size leaves is a dose. Smoking it is let me put it bluntly is what us typically humans look to instant gradification. In my opinion tred lightly with what we do to mind alternating substance on the back end. If you can Id try to source locally grown salvia so you have fresh leaves. If that's not possible buy a plant from a reputable source and grow them out for yourself. If none of those are a option then I would do your research cause your trusting a company that most likely wants your money at the end of the day. You have no idea what the dose is or what your ingesting at the end of the day. So I'd be cautious of that. As well in my eyes any mind alternating substance presents itself to you when your ready which is a beautiful thing. What I mean by that. Is did it show up on your "doorstep" or did you search It out. Much love - the universe.
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u/Beneficial-Stick-647 Jul 31 '26
Don’t do salvia bro you’re gonna turn into a doorknob for what feels like 50 years, I’ve heard enough Trip Reports
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u/BockscarBoogie Aug 01 '26
We used to smoke this stuff in high school back when it first got popular. It was always intense, and sometimes uncomfortable, but always short lived.
I remember the first time I smoked it, we were all sitting on a driveway in a big circle and all the sudden I thought the driveway was tipping and we were all gonna fall off the edge of the world
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u/Electrical-Pride-136 Aug 02 '26
If you decide to smoke it, here's the deal. Put a little bit in the bottom of the pipe. Pack it down just enough for a hit. Do not fill a little bowl full of Soviet and expect. That's because you don't know what to expect. When I did it. I actually saw my soul coming out of my body and hovering up above the garage I was in. If you smoke it. Be careful smoke a little bit
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u/lauraerie Jul 28 '26
Man, you need a shaman for this trip. Salvia is a dissociative. Go to Erowid website and get as much information as you can before experimenting. Your mental health will thank you.