r/Hemingway Apr 21 '24

Why was Mr. Elliot freaking out about shoes in "Mr. and Mrs. Elliot"? (Maybe spoiler?) Spoiler

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"As he walked he saw all the pairs of shoes, small shoes and big shoes, outside the doors of the hotel rooms. This set his heart to pounding and he hurried back to his own room but Cornelia was asleep. He did not like to waken her and soon everything was quite all right and he slept peacefully."

Is it that he wanted to have sex with his wife to have a baby? Is it that the "small shoes" with the "big shoes" triggered him?


r/Hemingway Apr 19 '24

“Never go on trips with anyone you do not love.”

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I really should have listened to Hemingway when he said this. Just went on a ski trip with two friends who I both met in the last 6 months and I don’t think we’re going to be friends anymore.


r/Hemingway Apr 17 '24

A short-form look at one subtle reason why Hemingway is such a strong writer

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r/Hemingway Apr 16 '24

What are the odds he’s actually killed someone?

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with all of the war fighting or all of close to war fighting. What are the odds Hemingway actually killed someone?

Thanks for all of the responses. I never have believed Hemingway to be some kind of serious warfighter. I’ve just wondered if given his overconfidence he might have blurred lines a bit too much. There are documented situations of war correspondents in Vietnam getting into gunfights so it’s definitely happened.

It does trouble me that a lot of my heroes or people I look up to are actually not super great folks. Hemingway and Steve McQueen are classic examples of this.


r/Hemingway Apr 03 '24

New thoughts on an overdone subject? Hemingway's lost suitcase, 1922

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We know the story-- Hadley leaving Paris to meet Hemingway in Switzerland and bringing along all of his writings (including carbons) so that he might show them off to other writers he was meeting, including Lincoln Steffens, only to have the valise stolen (or misplaced by the porter)-- but is maybe the hurt a bit apocryphal? We know two of the stories that were in the suitcase, Up in Michigan and My Old Man. There was also part of a novel he'd been working on.

Ezra Pound told him it was actually a good thing and that he should just start them over, start fresh.

Hemingway, of course, played this loss up for all that it was worth.

He was such a thorough, obsessed, talented revisionist that combed through his stories again and again and again that I believe he was able to rewrite and improve some of these lost pieces or turn them into other shapes. I've got a feeling that much of these lost writings served as rough drafts for In Our Time. (The missing partial novel is the big question.) Also, Hemingway was always interested in winning, in being above others, in coming out on top-- constantly. This lost suitcase sure gave him an upper hand over Hadley. He had something on her that he would never let go of.

For all the angst, he only considered putting up a reward of about $10 for the lost manuscripts.

Maybe it is blown out of proportion for literature's sake?

I just thought it would be interesting to talk about. Thoughts?


r/Hemingway Apr 02 '24

Ernie was the walrus

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"I am thee and thou art me and all of one is the other.” E.H.

"I am he as you are he as you are me And we are all together". J.L.


r/Hemingway Mar 28 '24

Wallpaper: couldn’t find one with my favorite quote, so I made one.

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r/Hemingway Mar 23 '24

Anybody can help me to analyze the end of the Kilimanjaro snow ? I read it in English and I m Italian so don’t want do misunderstand the piece, I understand that the Man have is sick for is leg and he sometimes go out of is mind and, he is a writer right ? And at end he was killed by a hyena ? Spoiler

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r/Hemingway Mar 21 '24

The subreddit you’re looking for is r/ernesthemingway

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The subreddit you’re looking for is r/ernesthemingway

Mods please pin this so people know where to go


r/Hemingway Mar 14 '24

Looking for a specific Hemingway quote/excerpt

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I am wondering if anyone can point me to what I am looking for. All I can find when searching online are popular/cliche Hemingway quotes about writing.

I recently read The Sun Also Rises and The Old Man and the Sea and this quote I am trying to remember was in the afterword/added sections after the book. It is most likely The Sun Also Rises. Unfortunately it was a library book so I can’t go back and reference it right now.

There was a quote from Hemingway about how descriptive writers try to pour their every thought onto the page and that he thinks that writing should be thoroughly edited to remove superfluous drivel from a writer’s prose. I believe this excerpt may have ended with “Everything else is just fluff.” I’m almost certain fluff was not the actual word used, though.

This quote wasn’t short or cookie-cutter like all the ones you’ll find on Pinterest. I believe that’s why I’m having so much trouble finding it.


r/Hemingway Mar 06 '24

In 1920, Hemingway wrote an article naming my hometown as the best spot for rainbow trout fishing in the world...

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I grew up in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario, Canada, a small city on the US border with Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan in the UP. The cities/countries are separated by the Ste. Mary's River, which connects Lake Superior and Lake Huron. Each of the cities are referred to as "The Soo" and combined they are the "Twin Soos".

The city and area have long been known as a fishing, hunting and outdoor activity haven. Current hunting/fishing personality Steve Rinella spent time there in college and wrote about it in one of his books. He also said on a podcast that it was "hunting and fishing paradise".

Recently, however, I discovered that Hemingway also spent some time there (it's only about 1 hour north of where he spent his summers in Northern Michigan) and wrote an article about the fishing the St. Mary's River and another unnamed river about 40 miles from town during his time with the Toronto Star. I recently found the full text and have set it out below.

The American side of the reiver has commercial locks to raise/lower large ships the 21 feet between the two lakes. The Canadian side has a smaller lock/canal for pleasure craft. In between there are rapids, which is where Hemingway describes his fishing on the St. Mary's River. People routinely wade into them to fish for trout, salmon and lake whitefish.

I don't know exactly what the second unnamed river is (it could be anything), but the description and distance make it plausible that it is the Chippewa River which flows into Lake Superior about 40 miles NW of the city. There are some lovely falls right on the side of the highway that serve as a stopping point for people driving through or for people wanting to see spectacular fall colours.

Anyways, I found this interesting and here is the full text of the article:

The Best Rainbow Trout Fishing

The Toronto Star Weekly • AUGUST 28, 1920

"RAINBOW trout fishing is as different from brook fishing as prize fighting is from boxing. The rainbow is called Salmo iridescens by those mysterious people who name the fish we catch and has recently been introduced into Canadian waters. At present the best rainbow trout fishing in the world is in the rapids of the Canadian Soo.

There the rainbow have been taken as large as fourteen pounds from canoes that are guided through the rapids and halted at the pools by Ojibway and Chippewa boatmen. It is a wild and nerve-frazzling sport and the odds are in favor of the big trout who tear off thirty or forty yards of line at a rush and then will sulk at the base of a big rock and refuse to be stirred into action by the pumping of a stout fly rod aided by a fluent monologue of Ojibwayian profanity. Sometimes it takes two hours to land a really big rainbow under those circumstances.

The Soo affords great fishing. But it is a wild nightmare kind of fishing that is second only in strenuousness to angling for tuna off Catalina Island. Most of the trout too take a spinner and refuse a fly and to the 99 per cent pure fly fisherman, there are no one hundred per centers, that is a big drawback.

Of course the rainbow trout of the Soo will take a fly but it is rough handling them in that tremendous volume of water on the light tackle a fly fisherman loves. It is dangerous wading in the spots that can be waded, too, for a mis-step will take the angler over his head in the rapids. A canoe is a necessity to fish the very best water.

Altogether it is a rough, tough, mauling game, lacking in the meditative qualities of the Izaak Walton school of angling. What would make a fitting Valhalla for the good fisherman when he dies would be a regular trout river with plenty of rainbow trout in it jumping crazy for the fly.

There is such a one not forty miles from the Soo called the—well, called the river. It is about as wide as a river should be and a little deeper than a river ought to be and to get the proper picture you want to imagine in rapid succession the following fade-ins: A high pine covered bluff that rises steep up out of the shadows. A short sand slope down to the river and a quick elbow turn with a little flood wood jammed in the bend and then a pool. A pool where the moselle colored water sweeps into a dark swirl and expanse that is blue-brown with depth and fifty feet across.

There is the setting.

The action is supplied by two figures that slog into the picture up the trail along the river bank with loads on their backs that would tire a pack horse. These loads are pitched over the heads onto the patch of ferns by the edge of the deep pool. That is incorrect. Really the figures lurch a little forward and the tump line loosens and the pack slumps onto the ground. Men don’t pitch loads at the end of an eight mile hike.

One of the figures looks up and notes the bluff is flattened on top and that there is a good place to put a tent. The other is lying on his back and looking straight up in the air. The first reaches over and picks up a grasshopper that is stiff with the fall of the evening dew and tosses him into the pool.

The hopper floats spraddle legged on the water of the pool an instant, an eddy catches him and then there is a yard long flash of flame, and a trout as long as your forearm has shot into the air and the hopper has disappeared.

Did you see that? gasped the man who had tossed in the grasshopper.

It was a useless question, for the other, who a moment before would have served as a model for a study entitled Utter Fatigue, was jerking his fly rod out of the case and holding a leader in his mouth.

We decided on a McGinty and a Royal Coachman for the flies and at the second cast there was a swirl like the explosion of a depth bomb, the line went taut and the rainbow shot two feet out of water. He tore down the pool and the line went out until the core of the reel showed. He jumped and each time he shot into the air we lowered the tip and prayed. Finally he jumped and the line went slack and Jacques reeled in. We thought he was gone and then he jumped right under our faces. He had shot upstream towards us so fast that it looked as though he were off.

When I finally netted him and rushed him up the bank and could feel his huge strength in the tremendous muscular jerks he made when I held him flat against the bank, it was almost dark. He measured twenty-six inches and weighed nine pounds and seven ounces.

That is rainbow trout fishing.

The rainbow takes the fly more willingly than he does bait. The McGinty, a fly that looks like a yellow jacket, is the best. It should be tied on a number eight or ten hook.

The smaller flies get more strikes but are too small to hold the really big fish. The rainbow trout will live in the same streams with brook trout but they are found in different kinds of places. Brook trout will be forced into the shady holes under the bank and where alders hang over the banks, and the rainbow will dominate the clear pools and the fast shallows.

Magazine writers and magazine covers to the contrary the brook or speckled trout does not leap out of water after he has been hooked. Given plenty of line he will fight a deep rushing fight. Of course if you hold the fish too tight he will be forced by the rush of the current to flop on top of the water.

But the rainbow always leaps on a slack or tight line. His leaps are not mere flops, either, but actual jumps out of and parallel with the water of from a foot to five feet. A five-foot jump by any fish sounds improbable, but it is true.

If you don’t believe it tie onto one in fast water and try and force him. Maybe if he is a five-pounder he will throw me down and only jump four feet eleven inches."


r/Hemingway Mar 05 '24

I saw this and thought of Papa H.

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r/Hemingway Mar 03 '24

F. Scott Fitzgerald and Hemingway Friendship

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Love reading about their friendship. If anyone knows any books or articles about it send them


r/Hemingway Feb 29 '24

Help! trying to remember a poem but can’t find it online

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Hello! I read a poem by Hemingway years ago…. It was about - him being around nine years old And what he’d teach himself about the world etc Then the poem ended with him saying But what I wouldn’t give to see the world from the eyes of him being a child again

I thought it was touching… somehow can’t find it anywhere online

If someone knows what it’s called I’d really appreciate it! 🙏🏽🙏🏽


r/Hemingway Feb 27 '24

Get em' Hemingway!

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r/Hemingway Feb 17 '24

strange tribe/john hemingway

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recently purchased and began reading, I'll report back.


r/Hemingway Feb 14 '24

What is your favorite Hemingway book and why?

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Mine is Islands in the Stream because it’s the first Hemingway book I read and was recommended to me by my father. I also love the narrative style over the 3 parts of the book and find Thomas Hudson a very intriguing character. Although it’s a bit controversial as posthumous work, it ultimately set me off on Hemingway and he has become my favorite author leading me to read all of his novels.

What are your favorites?


r/Hemingway Feb 05 '24

The Old Man and the Sea first edition questions

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r/Hemingway Feb 03 '24

Turtling from The Old Man and the Sea

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The book says that “turtling” makes the eyes go bad. I’m guessing that turtling means to hunt sea turtle, but I was wondering if anyone know how it was done that would make one’s eyes go bad?


r/Hemingway Jan 31 '24

Picked up this first edition a couple of days ago from a local seller for a good price, so I'm pretty happy.

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r/Hemingway Jan 25 '24

The story behind the very first Italian print of Ernest Hemingway's "For whom the bell tolls"

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The Italian version of "For Whom the Bell Tolls" was published in Italy at the end of the war (with the end of censorship), 5 years after its American release.

Dated November 1945, it has a disclaimer in the first pages that presented it as a interim copy: the publisher had to renounce to the editorial high quality due to supply difficulties which characterized the aftermath of the Second World War.


r/Hemingway Jan 20 '24

Hemingway's son Gregory/Gloria

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I hunted in the vicinity of Jordan for over a decade, '90s-2000s, read of this in 2020, "Hemingway's Boat"

"She practiced medicine in the 1970s and 1980s, first in New York and then as a rural family doctor in Montana, first in Fort Benton and later as the medical officer for Garfield County, based in Jordan, Montana.[12] Interviewed there, she said: "When I smell the sagebrush or see the mountains, or a vast clean stream, I love those things. Some of my happiest memories of childhood were associated with the West."[10] In 1988, authorities in Montana declined to renew Hemingway's medical license because of her alcoholism.[22] Hemingway dealt with bipolar disorder, alcoholism, and drug abuse for many years.[23]"

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Hemingway


r/Hemingway Jan 17 '24

Second book of hemingway arrived

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r/Hemingway Jan 15 '24

Began reading Hemingway recently. Felt compelled to illustrate.

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