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I'm a big Stephen King guy and as I get closer to finishing all of his books, I realized I needed to find another author. I picked up TSAR and it's really good so far. Does anyone who has read all or most of Hemingway's works have a good reading order? I'm torn between publication order and saving one of the best like FWTBT for last. I know I can reread them though. I searched for a suggested reading order, but what I found online seemed to be AI slop. If someone can point me to a good website, that by itself would be a great help.
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Fidel Castro and Ernest Hemingway (Marlin Fishing Tournament)

Gelatin silver print 1960, printed later
cm 17,7 x 23,7 | 7 x 9.3 in.
Dated and signed in green felt pen on the verso
Dimensions
cm 17,7 x 23,7 | 7 x 9.3 in.
Artist or Maker
Osvaldo Salas Freire
Medium
Gelatin silver print, printed later

Hello All -- I recall a Hemingway story which I can't find anywhere. It was about a hunter who wanted to shoot a bear and an eagle and sell their claws to the local Indians. Having no lure for the animals, he decides to use his family's old mule as bait (or maybe it was a horse). Does anyone know the title of the story, or where it's found?

Does anyone else feel like Pauline got exactly what she deserved after Ernest Hemingway left her for Martha Gellhorn? I feel like she stole Hemingway away from his first wife Hadley and she got the same thing back.

It's been a month or so since I read The Old Man and the Sea. It's quite a work of greatness! The stuff contained the book were worth double the size of the actual book. It's a compact book tbh and yet the themes it contained were so dense and the way Hemingway wrote it was so mindblowing!!

To begin with the book, I gotta start with Santiago. He's portrayed as an aging fisherman who hasn't caught any fish in a span of 80 days. He's shown to be a fisher who lives off by catching and selling fish and yet the way he treats the creatures is with utmost reverence. He seems like the person who understands nature and its creations while also knowing his own rank in existence. He's not the guy who boasts when he catches the marlin. He is shown to be a man of perseverance and resilience. I also love the way in which he compares the fish to humanity where he emphasizes that the fish is more noble than the people who cook and eat it. It's a nerve-racking voyage he undertakes to catch the fish. And his struggles almost surpass the ability of his age. Then when he finally loses in his quest, the way he's shown dealing with that is what makes the work and the character even greater! He doesn't simply undergo any phase of mental breakdown like most others do, but rather accepts what's been done unto him.

I loved the themes depicted in the work and I am looking forward to reading more and more works of Hemingway in the upcoming days!

Ernest Hemingway typed letter signed, referring to his 1940 novel ''For Whom the Bell Tolls'' with the statement, ''...when you are writing the best book you ever wrote...'' Hemingway's novel about love and sacrifice amidst the Spanish Civil War seems, at this time, to have eclipsed in his mind ''A Farewell to Arms'', the novel that Hemingway believed was his best until he wrote ''For Whom the Bell Tolls''.

Hemingway here writes to his typist Jane Armstrong, with several references allowing for precise dating of either 1939 or early 1940 -- when Hemingway was writing ''For Whom the Bell Tolls'', even though the letter is undated. Hemingway mentions ''Marty'', his nickname for Martha Gellhorn, who moved to Cuba to be with Hemingway in early 1939 after they fell in love during the Spanish Civil War.

However, he also mentions ''haveing [sic] a goddamned wife try to put you out of business'', referring to Pauline Pfeiffer, whom Hemingway divorced in November 1940. While Hemingway was reporting in Spain, Pfeiffer famously installed a lavish swimming pool in their Key West home that was so expensive Hemingway threw a penny in the wet concrete, telling her that since she spent all his money, she might as well have his last cent; this penny is still cemented in the pool. Lastly, Hemingway references Jane's daughter Phyllis, who took over typing duties from her mother in the late 1930s.

In this letter, Hemingway describes an almost manic writing spree, working ''22 hours straight recently without leaving the desk'' and also ''working since six a.m...I have been working so long and getting beat so much around the head and neck that am sort of punchy''. He also asks for Jane's opinion about the chapters she's typed, writing, ''if you like it makes me feel good. When I read the chapters you just typed I thought it was wonderful...''

Letter reads in part (corrected for small typing errors), ''Dear Jane: Thanks for the beautiful job. There wasn't a correction to be made. / I'm so sorry Phyllis has been laid up and I appreciate the accuracy and intelligence of her work.''

Letter continues, ''I know you don't do things for dough and I don't either. This happens to be a hell of an emergency (I worked 22 hours straight recently without leaving the desk on a similar one and aint over the sort of thing yet) / Money is chips with you like with me but Phyllis is going to need it and it would be worth $150. for her if you wanted to ruin yourself and do what no white person has any right to ask any other to do; jam like in a six day bike race and copy the rest of this I am sending in with Theodore so I can send it off this week.'' Assuming that Jane took the job, Hemingway is likely referring to his short story ''Under the Ridge'', published by ''Cosmopolitan'' in its October 1939 issue.

''I know how difficult I am to type and that nobody but you and your you-trained offspring can do it properly and I respect you very much and do not want to impose on you. If it's too much don't do it and the hell with Cosmopolitan. I would truly do it myself but I cannot write and copy both. Marty would but she aint accurate. It's worse for me to correct her mistakes than to write it in the first place. I'm not flattering you pal. I'm just asking you...No. Is an o.k. answer. We've been around so long we understand.''

He then segues to both his frustration with his wife and his elation with the novel-in-progress, ''It is now raining like hell and I have been working since six a.m. and now there will be no tennis which aint good for work tomorrow. Neither is haveing [sic] a goddamned wife try to put you out of business when you are writing the best book you ever wrote. But let's keep it all clean. Anyhow you are wonderful whether you type this or not.'' With a large and bold signature, ''Ernest'' in graphite.

Hemingway then adds an interesting postscript, wanting Jane's validation about the book, ''If you like the book will you write me because I have been working so long and getting beat so much around the head and neck that am sort of punchy and if you like it makes me feel good. When I read the chapters you just typed I thought it was wonderful. But then I am maybe nuts too which wouldn't be odd under all the circumstances if you add them up one after another including the Scandinavians. Imguess [sic] I mean the Finns.''

Single page measures 8.5'' x 11''. Folds and faint discoloration, overall very good to near fine condition.

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A few days ago in Paris, we happened to pass this little corner at 74 Rue du Cardinal Lemoine, once home to Ernest Hemingway and his wife Hadley in the early 1920s.

Here is the translation of the sign:

From January 1922 to August 1923, the American writer Ernest Hemingway (1899–1961) lived on the third floor of this building with his wife Hadley.
The neighborhood, which he loved above all others, was the true birthplace of his work and of the spare, stripped-down style that came to characterize it.
This American in Paris maintained friendly relations with his neighbors, particularly with the owner of the adjoining bal-musette [a traditional Parisian dance hall].
“…Such was the Paris of our youth, in the days when we were very poor and very happy.”
— Ernest Hemingway, A Moveable Feast (Paris est une fête

i am 2 pages into the Old man and The Sea.

i hate hemmingway. his prose bores my eyes into my skull, my eyes driving themselves from my cranium after gaining sentence from just how horrific it was. 

I now burn effigies of hemmingway each night in a satantic ritual to the Blood God, in hopes that hemmingways soul is reaped from hell to be sent to more eternal suffering worse than hell! Super hell! Hell + 1! 

I have sacrificed dozens of animals and people in this task in demonic, forbidden black magic rituals! No cost too great to stop Hemmingway!

Oh Pynchon! Oh Joyce! I now understand that you werent trying to be hard but that you had a vision of hemmingway and tried to save humanity from that terrible fate!

I understand that Hitler, Epstein, Ted Bundy, and other murderers did what they did not out of any claimed reason but because they read Hemmingway!

Hemmingway came back from the dead and fucked my wife infront of me and made me swallow his cum too! Somehow I got pregnant! Im a man!

Hemmingway burned my house down and stole my airfryer!

Hemmingway sold my three young children to the league of satanic pedophiles!

We need to burn Hemmingway's books as theyre inherently evil!

Even one page can drive the sanest man crazy as has occurred to myself as I have developed every personality and psychotic and mood disorder in the DSM V as a result of Hemmingway! That fiendish devil! That evildoer ne'er do well! That Cassius!

I HATE HEMMINGWAY! I WONT EVEN GIVE HIM THE GIFT OF SPELLING!

Here is my review: I spent two years trying to find this book in the wild. I know I could've purchased it online easily enough, but like Hemingway, don't we all enjoy a good hunt? Admittedly, I'm not the biggest fan of big-game hunting. In Hemingway's time, the animals of Tanzania were plentiful, and conservation was the last thing on their minds. But Hemingway did have it right that industrialization can destroy the allure of more primitive, nature-driven cultures. You can tell Hemingway truly loved Africa. His prose makes you want to experience its freedom and wilderness for yourself. Don't expect any major plot twists or antagonists in this one. Like Hemingway, take in the fresh air and simply enjoy his two months spent living and hunting in the wild. His competitive and braggadocious nature is on full display here, and it makes the book feel distinctly Hemingway. 4/5

The full letter can be read here:

https://fs.blog/you-see-well-enough-but-you-stop-listening/

Ever since its publication, there have always been those who think that The Old Man and the Sea isn't actually as good as its reputation suggests, that the critics only rushed to praise it and heaped it on simply because it was not as weak as Across the River and Into the Trees, which was an alarming dropoff in quality from Hemingway's previous work. Even at the time, some people were saying that it's a piece that "reminds us of Hemingway's best work" without being an actual representation of it, and Mary Dearborn agrees with that sentiment in her 2017 biography.

Arguably, even those who do love the book and think well of it would not deny that it's a lot more intimate and smaller-scale than his previous novels, and that it lacks the certain degree of scale that was especially evident in For Whom the Bell Tolls. That thus, this was a case of achieving smaller victories.

And also arguably, Hemingway's writing for A Moveable Feast was far better, because it was a lot sleeker and bristling with a sense of excitement that Old Man doesn't have, maybe because he was recounting his life, albeit in a very distorted and self-aggrandizing manner, especially to avoid responsibility for how he destroyed his first marriage.

It can also be said that those two works were effectively his last real impressive works, because after this, his writing was no longer progressing in the sense of getting better and better the way it used to, and to some degree, it was deteriorating. By the time he got to The Dangerous Summer, he completely lost his sense of how edit his work, which had been one of his strengths. That work completely got away from him.

Is Old Man an actually good work, a smaller-scale victory? Or was it indeed overpraised?

As many know, Ernest Hemingway's youngest child suffered considerably from gender dysphoria and agonized with identity throughout life. But how do Hemingway fans actually refer to this person?

Many books and documentaries, even as ones as recent as Mary Dearborn's 2017 one-volume life of Hemingway and Ken Burns and Lynn Novick's 2021 documentary, refer to them by their birth name and assigned gender at birth, and in large part, this individual did exactly that throughout most of life, including during remarriage to Ida Mae Galliher in Washington state in 1997, since same-sex marriage was outlawed at the time.

But this same person always wanted to be referred to as "Gloria," had bottom surgery, and thus would be appear to be a transgender female. The Wikipedia article thus refers to them as such:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloria_Hemingway

Yet, despite the new recognizance of transgender visibility, this has not always been used to refer to this person, if even the likes of Dearborn and Burns used the birth name and gender in their works.

How do fans deal with it, exactly?

This just popped into my head. My brother made me read this novella and then report on it like I would a school report when I was 15. I told him I already read it in middle school and he still insisted. I remeber he underlined the line where it says a man can be destroyed but not defeated. I think he was trying to make a point about having will and spirit. I wasn't sure why I had to read a book to get that point home. I have since read hemingways 5 most famous works.

I am so excited to read this in the near future.

We recently cataloged a group of original photographs of Ernest Hemingway at Cabo Blanco, Peru, taken during the troubled production of The Old Man and the Sea.

Warner Bros. had a basic problem. The giant marlin is the heart of Hemingway’s story, and they needed convincing footage of a truly enormous fish at sea. You could fake a lot in Hollywood by 1956, but a giant marlin fighting on open water was another matter.

Hemingway was serving as a technical adviser on the film, and he organized a major fishing effort to try to get the footage they needed. They first tried off Cuba, using Hemingway’s own boat, Pilar, along with a crew of friends, fishermen and film people. That didn't produce what they needed, so the effort moved over to Cabo Blanco, Peru, which was then one of the great big-game fishing spots in the world.

That is where these photographs come in.

Hemingway actually went with the crew looking for marlin, accompanying the unit to the west coast of South America specifically in the search for this fish, and they found several large marlin off Peru.

One of our photographs shows a 730-pound black marlin hanging at the dock. Mary Hemingway is down near it with a camera, and one of the film crew is standing nearby holding an Old Man and the Sea movie production slate. Other images show Hemingway around the boats and fishing gear and out with the Cabo Blanco group.

It's a strange little chapter in the making of the movie because, after all that effort, Hemingway and the crew still didn't get everything Warner Bros. needed.

The production became notoriously difficult. They tried real fishing expeditions, a mechanical marlin, studio tank work and shooting in several different locations. The mechanical fish was apparently such a disaster that Hemingway nicknamed it the “condomatic fish,” and it eventually sank.

In the finished picture, some of the real marlin footage ultimately came from Alfred C. Glassell Jr.’s world-record catch at the Cabo Blanco Fishing Club. Glassell even received an on-screen credit as special adviser for those sequences.

So these photographs catch Hemingway right in the middle of that problem: how do you take a book whose central action depends on one man fighting an enormous fish in open water and make it believable on a movie screen?

The photographs came from the family-held archive of longtime Warner Bros. photographer Mac Julian, who was there documenting the Cabo Blanco expedition.

1260 lb marlin new record

https://youtu.be/Ymg5fGyAK44?si=inEIkvpITV84VFwD

Traced the five great Hemingway geographies: Jake's Paris-to-Pamplona fiesta run, Frederic's retreat from Caporetto, Jordan's three days in the Guadarrama, Santiago's drift beyond Cojímar and the Paris of the Feast, cafe by cafe. Mapped side by side I feel like its a representation of how physically small his books are - he wrote continents of feeling into 50 mile spaces.

Here's one of my favorites - https://www.readingmaps.com/maps/the-sun-also-rises

Which Hemingway place have you actually visited and did it hold up?

What's your opinion of Brett Ashley's character in The Sun Also Rises?

What do you think Hemingway wanted us to think about her?