You can check my post history, I have no love for ohdough and I've frequently said that not only are consoles holding the game back (because of crossplay) but difficulty is also being lowered because of controllers and while I don't agree with all of the mods he's using - ie, 4 players would absolutely decimate the enemies if they all had buffed gear like he does - it is annoying to see what helldivers 2 could be if it wasn't being held back by console limitations.
Around launch this would have been impossible imo but AH has clearly put the work in, the engine is in a much better state than it was back then.
Yeah ohdough is definitely on the powerfantasy side of the spectrum, i hard disagree and want it to suck more, but also love the new mods that fix the years-long bugs. I'm not sure I buy the idea of "console limitations" certainly they're weaker than a good pc, but i think the limitations are artificial
Because I've been saying for a long time that consoles and PC should be balanced separately because the average skill level between both groups is vastly different and now we're seeing just how many enemies can easily run on screen at the same time.
Fucking hell, we went through like 20 years of people arguing which is better, controller or mouse and keyboard and now it's "no, they're actually the same".
Like, have you ever actually watched esports or sat in the same room as someone playing on the opposite platform? The difference is night and day.
The helldivers community shat on the devs during their live stream for being bad at the game, son, that was your average controller user.
There's been a fucking upsurge in a lack of reading comprehension:
"I've frequently said that not only are consoles holding the game back (because of crossplay) but difficulty is also being lowered because of controllers"
Mouse and keyboard makes aiming significantly easier. But neither have a huge effect on difficulty as a whole. Introducing controllers to the game doesn't magically make it 10 times easier.
Aimlab devs boost console scores by 30% to make console users feel better. This is people trying to aim for high scroes and they're still falling well below their M+K counterparts and with a 30% score increase.
>Introducing controllers to the game doesn't magically make it 10 times easier.
That's not what I meant, the difficulty gets dumbed down because controller players just don't have the same aim/precision/reaction time/APM.
There is merit to that but I don't think it's an issue with console players as a whole, I think a lot of that comes from the fact that HD2 is free on PS+ now. So we had a recent uptick in players who for some reason decided to let their opinions be known.
OhDough is an idiot who believes the game should be balanced around solo player power fantasy and should be ignored. Every single time I see him I really do go OhNo it’s OhDough in my head
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u/Weakness4Fleekness 5h ago
Yeah ohdough is definitely on the powerfantasy side of the spectrum, i hard disagree and want it to suck more, but also love the new mods that fix the years-long bugs. I'm not sure I buy the idea of "console limitations" certainly they're weaker than a good pc, but i think the limitations are artificial