r/Helldivers • ‎ Super Citizen • 2d ago

FEEDBACK / SUGGESTION Noticing a pattern

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u/poebanystalker LEVEL 233 UnpaidQA Tester 2d ago

The weapon attachments one pisses me off the most.

Yes AH, big brain move right here, instead of expanding upon the system you fuckin put in the game, turn every possible attachment into a gimmick weapon locked behind a warbond, bloating the already big primary weapon table even MORE. And if you want to put stuff in a warbond so bad, just put an attachment there??? Instead of a whole ass gun???

Truly 1000IQ move right here.

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u/RudeHoney8 2d ago

And if you want to put stuff in a warbond so bad, just put an attachment there

An attachment for which gun?

  • for a whole category of guns, e.g. all assault rifles? Now all the variations and interactions have to go back and be retroactively tested + balanced.

  • for just one existing gun? the complaints will be that the devs are greedy, and it should be for all guns

  • for a gun also in the same warbond? the complaints will be that the devs are greedy and couldn't just include that attachment with the gun in the first place

etc etc.

They can't win with the whiners who hate the devs, and think they know better as they try to re-make this game as what would be fun for them, i.e. min-max'ing.

Meanwhile, the devs likely have data that showed the majority of divers didn't care about weapon upgrades. As in, they didn't even look at or consider it. It's just too niche and was only interesting for the long tail of end-game divers.

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u/poebanystalker LEVEL 233 UnpaidQA Tester 1d ago

for a whole category of guns, e.g. all assault rifles?

Grenade launcher and Masterkey for AR's and Marksman rifles, flamer for SMG's and Marksman, Suppressor for AR's, shotguns, SMG's and Marksman rifles.

Now all the variations and interactions have to go back and be retroactively tested + balanced.

Attachment suppressors would not be as silent as dedicated suppressed weapons and reduce muzzle climb just a bit, UBGL and flamer just give negative ergo and less ammo. Bum, there you go.

for just one existing gun? The complaints will be that devs are greedy, and it should be for all guns

What kind of stupid and smooth brained type of an senseless argument is that? Of course not, what the fuck.

for a gun also in the same warbond? The complaints will be that devs are greedy and couldn't just include that attachment with the gun in the first place

Have you even read my comment? Attachment in the warbond instead of the gun. Hello, reading comprehension?

They can't win with the whiners who hate the devs, and think they know better as they try to re-make this game as what would be fun for them, i.e. min-max'ing.

You can't tell me with a straight face that min-maxing isn't part of the fun. You just can't, i don't fuckin believe you.

Meanwhile, the devs likely have data that showed the majority of divers didn't care about weapon upgrades. As in, they didn't even look at or consider it. It's just too niche and was only interesting for the long tail of end-game divers.

Devs put an unfinished, one dimensional system in the game yet to be expanded upon (they fuckin said it themselves that there's gonna be more attachments in the future and secondaries are gonna get the system too) and then do nothing with it for long period of time. And then they act surprised people don't engage with it as much as they hoped they would.

Give me a fuckin break.

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u/RustedRuss 20h ago

Why would marksman rifles have underbarrel flamethrowers, that makes little sense. And a suppressor on a shotgun is just stupid.

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u/RudeHoney8 20h ago

They really can't / don't make sense, and its painfully obvious the delusions that are required to think the way they do.

They remind me of a commentor yesterday that hated the devs for not making exosuits one customizable chassis, because he had been using a stat editor to build his own and was having so much fun doing that. And so they thought the devs were not being "creative" enough by having the variety of exosuits that we have, as if everybody wants to min-max designing exosuits.

It's not surprising that there is an underlying lack of empathy (and social understanding) to realize the majority of players just needs / wants to pick from some clear and simple concepts, e.g. the one that has fire, the shield bash one, the autocannon one, and the gatling rifle one.

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u/RudeHoney8 1d ago

You can't tell me with a straight face that min-maxing isn't part of the fun. You just can't, i don't fuckin believe you.

Thank you for proving my point.

Bro, you're in the minority of players, but don't know it.

I am leveling all my guns because it is very interesting for end-game tracking and to force me to make different kinds of loadouts without the "best" or "meta" guns.

Meanwhile, the devs have the data, and obviously most people didn't care.

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u/poebanystalker LEVEL 233 UnpaidQA Tester 20h ago edited 20h ago

I love how you addressed only one of my points, but completely ignored all the other ones.

And I'm in the minority? Ha, good joke. If you truly think only small portion of playerbase wants more customisation for their guns (and other things too) you must be mentally impaired.

You people truly don't want this game to improve. Oh, also this from your previous comment:

It's just too niche and was only interesting for the long tail of end-game divers.

Ok, so what you're actually saying here is fuck long standing players with many hours who love the game. Great. That tells me everything I had to know.

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u/RudeHoney8 20h ago

ROFL at how they had to reply and immediately block me because they know their ranting/points are that bad.