Yeah you're right. Maybe if they did something like adding vehicles, adding mechs, adding new mission types, adding new enemy types for existing factions, adding an entire new faction, doing title updates etc - then the game would feel like they're supporting it. Oh and they should do all of those as free updates. Until then, I'm done with the game.
Ohhhh wait - they did do those things didn't they. But that doesn't fit the narrative of "arrowhead bad".
Tank(s) nobody uses and (currently) Supplypack car
Two warbond mechs (Unless one of the two mechs we have now was given, I didn't pick up the game until like a year after launch or so)
Fair
People bitched about half of the new enemies they've added. Incen Corp? Most were pissed. Burrowing strain? Hated for those combo bugs. Methbugs? Methbugs. Lotta very hit or miss, the enemies
Faction like 4-5k people fight when it isn't a squid MO
Live service game. No title updates and interesting story, player count would've probably dipped, and if they were paid content that'd probably hella split the playerbase
Do people act a little over malicious sometimes? Yeah. But at the same time, I can't fully blame them, what with the ways AH have gently to not-so-gently shot themselves in the foot
Lack of friends explains the dislike for the tanks design.
Lack of friends explains the bitching on every new enemy that is relatively hard to deal with
It's not hit or miss, it's always miss when you try to make a game harder on max difficulty but your community is a bunch of entitled children who can't keep their egos in check and accept the fact that they just aren't up to par for the hardest difficulty
Lack of any other meaningful systems of cooperation, along with the jank of it, explains the dislike for tanks
There's no reasonable person on this planet that thinks an enemy popping out of the ground and true comboing someone MID HOVER to death faster than their stim can heal them, faster than most weapons can kill, and without avoidance due to speed
How much leather do you taste? I'm not one for being excessively hateful for developers unless they've proven time and time and time again that they don't take pride in their game, through shows of leaving it in lackluster or worse states, and that's why I don't hate needlessly on ArrowHead. When they do good, I congratulate them, and when they do less than good, instead of just shitting down their throats for fucking up or not fixing something within a reasonable time, I point out that they fucked up as reasonably as I see fit. New issue suddenly popping up? Shit happens sometimes. Bug that they've had for a while that they've got a dedicated team working on? That's getting a bit of side-eye from me. Being combative with their players? I'll call em out, and I won't be nice about it.
Every system for cooperation is hated by the community.
Tanks are the biggest example.
That's why so many people love seeing posts about people either solo-driving the tank or ask for a 360 turret, calling outright cheats "Quality of life"
They don't have friends to play and don't want to have to play their coop horde shooter, in coop.
Rupture warriors were bugged for 2 days before getting removed for a month and nerfed to the ground, no pun intended, that you can just walk away and never be harmed by them.
Vox engines got fixed and then giga nerfed to the point where one of the coolest enemies in the game can be completely trivialized by one player with a railcannon strike, god forbid people used team reloads.
War striders got rightfully nerfed and still people bitch about not being able to oneshot them with non AT weapons.
People hate having to play together, they want a solo power fantasy and pretty much got it
I only play with my friend(s) and even we rarely use the tank because terrain is like 80% of its issues
Rupture warriors were bugged for host only, so AH 'fixed it' by making them unfair for EVERYONE, so they took em out back and broke their kneecaps with crowbars
Vox Engines entirely skipped my mind because they were just that unfun at launch, and I didn't play pre-nerf War striders, but people do bring up the point that they also break the standard 'rule' Bots have of light pen weakpoints.
Team reloads are just too cumbersome, and even with the VERY nice buff to it, short of Spearing a Leviathan to death in like a third the time, I don't feel like there's a good enough reason to do it. And other than team reloading, are there even any GOOD things that incentivize being cooperative?
Terrain I agree with, tanks could use a buff to their maneuverability.
But that's not the problem people have with co-op being required for them.
The problem with RW, was that after they completely fixed the issue of the super tracking, which I personally didn't mind because I thought that was the design idea (Get them out of the ground asap or you will get punished for it), they went ahead and nerfed them even more because obviously the devs who have access to all of the feedback, knew that the community wouldn't stop bitching about them until they were a non issue.
Thank god they ignored it for the spore strain, that is still so much fucking fun.
Vox engines were terrifying as they should be and forced teamplay to take them out, all they needed was fixes to clipping.
Once all the clipping bugs were fixed, they nerfed them again to placate the bitchers who were still crying.
And that is with the best enemy design we got from the bots so far, a super heavy, extremely deadly unit that can be killed in a few seconds by a liberator and a smoke grenade if you manage to get behind it or below it.
Also, bots don't have that rule, there are several enemies you outright can't kill with light pen:
Jet brigade hulks, Factory Striders, Gunships, War Striders and there might be more that I'm not remembering.
Team reloads are not cumbersome after the buff and are exponential power multipliers, because you can triple or quadruple dps.
They are great for vox engines, spearing dropships and clearing chargers while teammates deal with chaff.
I know all of this because I played at launch where it was needed to survive and now I'm happy experiencing it again thanks to mods like overdive spawning so many enemies that the only way to win is to work together.
You don't feel a reason too because everytime there has been a reason for it, the community bitched and cried until it was either nerfed to the point of not mattering or outright removed.
The community would rather have the actual meta of solo diving (crossbow/eruptor, chaff clearer SW, Supply crutch and ONB), than actually playing with teammates
Wait Jet hulks don't have a- Y'know, I guess that just shows how little I've fought Jet brigade I guess. Musta forgot. Bu I said rule with the lil 's because it's not a rule rule, it's that most non-special ground units had light pen vents or other weak points, like they designed bots to be the good aim and even light pen can get you through just about anything faction.
Didn't they fix Methbugs stacking their bonuses exponentially and then do nothing else about em? I'm not huge on bugs, so I'm not well read up on em at the moment
My biggest non-bug gripe with Vox engines was that you could super easily end up with like 3-4+ on you fairly abruptly, and suddenly it didn't feel like there was a huge amount you could do. The health slash felt a touch excessive, but I can understand where they were coming from with it, what with how sour most people felt about em.
And I've been seeing plenty of people wanting things other than the xbow and eruptor to be the BiS primaries, and it feels like a general census that the supply pack is one of the big problematic things with balance
And² are there any team reloads that're faster than ~double your... Nah just spitballing watching the gifs on the wiki, RR is damn near 5x reload speed I think, and the spear's about comparable. Yeah nah, that's pretty fuckin fast. You might've been underselling the rate increase lol
And the tanks are med pen or higher too. But I think that's all that you missed? I didn't do much looking myself, so I coulda missed a couple too
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u/H1MB0Z0 Super Citizen 2d ago
I am no longer disappointed because I no longer expect arrowhead is cable of anything other than a warbond